Chocobo Challenge

I feel like I'm missing something here. What we have is a regular chocobo race where you have to place higher than a specific NPC to win the challenge. But for some reason I am getting my butt kicked in the very first one. I have tried it a dozen times now and I haven't even come close! Is this NPC supercharged? Is there a trick I'm missing?

I thought these would be like the Verminion challenges where they got progressively harder. If that's the case, I don't stand a chance of getting through them all!

If your chocobo is low pedigree and just at r41 doing the first challenge it might be difficult, but a high rank chocobo can breeze through them all easily. Try levelling the chocobo a few times and feeding it a bit. The later challenges might require higher pedigrees, so you need some breeding too.

The named NPCs do seem stronger than the non-named ones, and the challenges do get progressively harder. But since your chocobo is not "level synced" with theirs you have the edge if you just level some more.

I feel like I should be able to do this when it is unlocked. I shouldn't have to level up to be able to complete the first challenge, especially if they get more difficult as you get to the later challenges. If I need to have a stronger chocobo, maybe it shouldn't be available so early?

That I dunno, I didn't do it with a lower rank chocobo so I can't say if it's too hard or not. Someone in my FC did do it near r41 after a few tries though, just have to be lucky with the items. A hero tonic would probably give a good chance at a win. Also it depends on your chocobo's abilities, some are much better than others.

I had to give up on it for now. My chocobo got to retirement age, so I found her a nice fellow and they're going to give me their first fledgling. Maybe that chocobo will have what it takes to eventually take down the NPC racer who is now my nemesis...

I can pass the first challenge with Pedigree 2 F (grade 1 M + grade 9 F).

i have an R300 chocobo and can't win the last race for R271. tried it for HOURS and even when the rng is on my side i simply can't beat it because i don't use a specific build. had no problems in the R300 races with my build... to get this chocobo is took MONTHS... i am really pissed, yeah...

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Originally Posted by Eul

I can pass the first challenge with Pedigree 2 F (grade 1 M + grade 9 F).

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This makes me feel better. I used the best breeder chocobo I could get (like you did) and will have a pedigree 2 chocobo to start racing with today. Hopefully I will have the same success you did!

Running with perfect stats? Im stuck there also but my chocobo is only R280.

Where do you start the challenge races? I only see the normal ones.

I think you need to have a rating of 41 to see the first challenge.

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Originally Posted by NaliaBrown

I feel like I should be able to do this when it is unlocked. I shouldn't have to level up to be able to complete the first challenge, especially if they get more difficult as you get to the later challenges. If I need to have a stronger chocobo, maybe it shouldn't be available so early?

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I completely disagree. A good challenge and something to strive for as a goal is a great motivator.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I completely disagree. A good challenge and something to strive for as a goal is a great motivator.

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yeah, i have retired my R300 chocobo with full 4 stars on every stat... it's okay to have a new goal, but i am still pissed because of all the work i already have put into this chocobo... but it was impossible to win the last challenge race with the build i had... even with perfect weather the whole race, i was not getting hit from anything and i have used heavy on the top-chocobo... still -2 seconds...

What's your build? With a stamina and speed focused build I win like 90% of the time on the last challenge, and I don't even touch the other named NPCs as I'm ahead of them the whole time. Make sure to dodge the obstacles and stuff, and use some strategy when going for chests (like if you're ahead, let them have the briar so they fight each other).

Remember that you can also switch your learned ability to almost any other ability from the feed trader (almost since I think the last challenge unlocks some of the final ones), so maybe try some other abilities.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

I think you need to have a rating of 41 to see the first challenge.

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Ah. Mines at 40, lol. It's pedigree 3 though so it shouldn't take too long to get to the right level.

The 271 challenge is a bit ridiculous. 19/20 stars with max stat in speed, endurance and stamina, I've failed every time 20+ times. It's completely RNG dependent to give you a stamina tablet or a restore, and even then if you don't keep your finger on the accelerate button, you stand no chance at coming in first.

I understand difficulty, but my rating is 295 and this thing is just 271. I feel bad for people that wanted the barding. It's not gonna be simple at all. And I already had this bird!

I made a video of my challenge runs. You can find my chocobo's build at the time linked in this video:
https://youtu.be/YANRDLKJeCE?t=260

And you can find my challenge 15 race here:
https://youtu.be/LHZJhW8pEP4?t=210

I've done the last challenge a few more times afterwards and I have a 95% ish win rate with this build.

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Originally Posted by Histoire

The 271 challenge is a bit ridiculous. 19/20 stars with max stat in speed, endurance and stamina, I've failed every time 20+ times. It's completely RNG dependent to give you a stamina tablet or a restore, and even then if you don't keep your finger on the accelerate button, you stand no chance at coming in first.

I understand difficulty, but my rating is 295 and this thing is just 271. I feel bad for people that wanted the barding. It's not gonna be simple at all. And I already had this bird!

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i had 20/20 stars.... but to win this race you NEED max speed, cunning and enough stamina to sprint the whole race from start to finish. my chocobo only had 470 speed and 286 cunning. i put more into the stamina stats so i can use headstart. was an awesome build for R300, but way to slow for the last challange...

that cunning probably killed you, and if your speed is higher than your endurance you end up running out of stamina faster

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Originally Posted by konage

that cunning probably killed you, and if your speed is higher than your endurance you end up running out of stamina faster

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i had 470 Speed, 500 Acceleration, 500 Stamina, 500 Endurance, 286 Cunning, Headstart and Increased Stamina 3. that was kind of try and error with the 500 Acceleration + Headstart because i heared Acceleration will reduce the Stamina-Drain. But it was a fair-wather chocobo, so to have that acceleration was also nice to go back to top speed after a rain shower xD

i won almost all the time in R300 with this buid, bu no chance in the challange :x

I think if people treated these more like a group challenge then a personal one, it would go a lot smoother. I've done a lot of these where everyone tries to pick everyone else off, ignores the NPC racer, unless it just happened to be there. Guess what, almost every single person lost!...herpaderps... Other times (rare as hell, maybe happened twice lol) I have actually watched where everyone saved their bad items (sometimes that is random luck) till the NPC racers were who their target for the item would be. The NPCs fell to last really quickly, and every single person got to complete the challenge.


Above is just really a suggestion to make these a hell of a lot less painful, I doubt anyone will bother :(

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Originally Posted by Sucuri

I think if people treated these more like a group challenge then a personal one, it would go a lot smoother. I've done a lot of these where everyone tries to pick everyone else off, ignores the NPC racer, unless it just happened to be there. Guess what, almost every single person lost!...herpaderps... Other times (rare as hell, maybe happened twice lol) I have actually watched where everyone saved their bad items (sometimes that is random luck) till the NPC racers were who their target for the item would be. The NPCs fell to last really quickly, and every single person got to complete the challenge.

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but there are probably just two or three other people on my server with an R300 chocobo xD no idea, never seen any real player in the 200+ races, only NPCs

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Originally Posted by Tint

but there are probably just two or three other people on my server with an R300 chocobo xD no idea, never seen any real player in the 200+ races, only NPCs

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Time to recruit people to mindless grinding for perfection in their race chocobos! Sorry not to many people are doing the races, seems like everyone and their mothers came out of the woodwork on my server with the new stuff added. Really weird to see so many people here to be honest lol.... Illy must be empty O.o

Finally got it! Came down to changing my secondary to Speedy Recovery III and getting lucky with a potion along the way. It just took forever for said potion to pop in my favor and when an NPC wasn't already miles ahead. Barding's nice. Challenge was nice. Hard, but doable as long as you've put time into the bird.

I was able to beat the first 2 challenges with a pedigree 2 chocobo, but the 3rd one was way out of my league. I'm working on breeding better chocobos now that I understand it more.

My maxed stat bird finally has a use :)
I tore through all the challenges on release day, 500k mgp in about 45 mins hehe
Might finally be able to get my fenrir

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Originally Posted by randysquirrel

My maxed stat bird finally has a use :)
I tore through all the challenges on release day, 500k mgp in about 45 mins hehe
Might finally be able to get my fenrir

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Congrats! My only thought was that the challenges should help people get people to the max stat chocobo. I initially thought that the first challenge was too difficult - and maybe it is for when it is unlocked - but now I see that this challenge has really gotten me interested in breeding the best bird. My ultimate goal is Fenrir, I'm a little over halfway there already (been saving for a while), and this challenge will be how I do it.

Unless, of course, I win the Jumbo cactpot on Saturday.

They made 'max power' too overpowered on the final challenge. He must have 600 in all stats since he just flies by my chocobo like nothing and still doesn't run out of stamina. I've been trying this challenge for over 6 hours hoping that the right combo of items and weather would make a difference. But potions don't help, super bird don't help, u cant even use frenzy on him because that just gives him more stamina recovery, and even heavied he runs past me at 500 max speed. I traded my head start for speedy recovery 3 and that just made things worse. And of course there's no way to get head start back now since its not one of the books u can buy. my stats are:500 speed 350 acc 500 stamina 500 endurance 358 cunning with choco cure 3 hereditary fair weather bird rank 50 and 295 rating. I really hope they nerf max power or at least set his stats no higher than all 500's. Its just not fun at all.

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Originally Posted by insearch78

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I think the cunning is hurting you, as it as a big effect on the Tranquil Paths course. Also I think that bird might be foul weather, so if it starts raining you'll have a hard time. However, it's definitely not super fast, as you can see in the video I posted earlier I quickly pass him by hugging the corners (https://youtu.be/LHZJhW8pEP4?t=210).

i finished it now with my new chocobo. was very lucky with the breeding, to get all 4 stars is still very random for me xD i tried your build with 500 Speed, 395 Accelearation, 355 Endurance, 500 Stamina and 500 Cunning with Incrased Stamina 3 and Chocobo Vita 3 (can't change Increased Stamina 3 so easily). it still was veeeery hard. i was faster than max power, but i ran out of stamine before i reached the finish line. so it took while until i had perfect weather, did not get hit from everything and got a potion from a chest... far from 95% win rate, but doable.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Also I think that bird might be foul weather, so if it starts raining you'll have a hard time. However, it's definitely not super fast,.

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You were right the whole problem was with me being fair weather bird. Once i changed out speedy recovery for super sprint that negated weather/terrain I was able to beat it no problem even with low cunning. The race really does favor foul weather birds, esp tranquil with all the swamp you run through despite it being sunny weather.

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Originally Posted by NaliaBrown

I feel like I should be able to do this when it is unlocked. I shouldn't have to level up to be able to complete the first challenge, especially if they get more difficult as you get to the later challenges. If I need to have a stronger chocobo, maybe it shouldn't be available so early?

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Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you are rdy for it. Being able to do it but always being beaten SHOULD make you strive to improve so you can overcome this challenge. Not complain about it. if it was only unlocked when you can beat it easily, where is the fun or challenge in that? Do you like everything served to you on a silver platter? that's no fun.

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Originally Posted by Valmar

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you are rdy for it. Being able to do it but always being beaten SHOULD make you strive to improve so you can overcome this challenge. Not complain about it. if it was only unlocked when you can beat it easily, where is the fun or challenge in that? Do you like everything served to you on a silver platter? that's no fun.

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I wasn't saying that it should be easy, I was saying that it should be possible. I had to have at least a pedigree 2 chocobo before I could beat it, but it unlocks as soon as your first chocobo gets to rating 41. Even at pedigree 2, my chocobo's rating was at least 61 when I beat the first challenge because the 2nd one was already open to me. I also found the 2nd one to be easier than the first. I still haven't been able to beat the third challenge, and I'm on pedigree 4 now.

The challenges are fun. They shouldn't be easy. If they were easy, what fun would that be?

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Originally Posted by Tint

i have an R300 chocobo and can't win the last race for R271. tried it for HOURS and even when the rng is on my side i simply can't beat it because i don't use a specific build. had no problems in the R300 races with my build... to get this chocobo is took MONTHS... i am really pissed, yeah...

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What build is your chocobo? I won the 271 challenge first try with my chocobo dash III and increased stamina III chocobo

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

What build is your chocobo? I won the 271 challenge first try with my chocobo dash III and increased stamina III chocobo

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OMG THANK YOU!!! I personally don't understand what everyone is talking about using all these other abilities... I also use Choco Dash3 and Stamina 3 and i won it super easily...

As a personal note i also don't understand why people are putting so much importance on cunning... Cunning is my lowest ability at 303 as i have not put any extra points in to it...

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Originally Posted by Choco_Breeder_Twirly

As a personal note i also don't understand why people are putting so much importance on cunning... Cunning is my lowest ability at 303 as i have not put any extra points in to it...

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Mmm, I haven't trained my cunning at all and got 325 cunning. I trained max speed, endurance, and stamina ( always use the grade 3 food peps!). If you train acc, you just end up burning your stamina. I think my chocobos final stats are something like 500 speed, 500 stamina, 500 endurance, 325 cunning and 325 acc.( my comp is broken so these numbers are based on memory) RNG has an effect on the untrained stats, my brother has more acc on his and less cunning than my chocobo when trained the same way. I can usually sprint an entire race, and if I run out of stamina I have the 3 seconds of max speed still from chocobo dash 3 :) ( my chocobo is a soot black chocobo called Shadow Storm who likes foul weather)

I don't think Max Power is any harder than Teioh or Star Breaker to beat, and I don't think you'd need a perfectly custom tailored choco to beat challenge 15. I have a fair weather, relatively high cunning choco that I frequently use to race the costa track with and the challenge wasn't difficult. Just pick skills that improve your choco's strength or cover its weakness, like super sprint for a low cunning + fair weather choco; recovery + heal for lots of stam; etc. If in doubt, you can always appeal to rng for a hero's tonic ^_^