Earlier today I was listing something I made at the AH, when I noticed I recognised the name of my competition. Now I recently transferred server from ragnarok to Gilgamesh and seeing this name on both items I was wearing from ragnarok and the same name on Gilgamesh surprised me especially as it is a unique name. I lodestoned the name out of curiosity and found the same name on every server on most including my own he never had a job over 17. my question is this does lodestone not update the characters anymore or how is it possible to sign your name to a piece of equipment you haven't made
Crafting and signing
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03-16-2016, 11:42 PMTanthalasCrafting and signing
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03-17-2016, 12:37 AMCanadane
It may have been made by yet another Tanthalas Halfelven.
Or perhaps by you and you've simply forgotten! -
03-17-2016, 12:46 AMAlexander_Dragonfang
The crafter signature should be invisible on the market board till the a player adquieres the item... But hey,we have the most primitive market board in the current MMORPG market.
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03-17-2016, 12:51 AMAskaRayI've always been able to see who the maker is before buying...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang
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03-17-2016, 01:45 AMCanadaneNo he said it should be, so he can safely undercut without getting angry tells about it later, or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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03-17-2016, 01:51 AMAskaRayAhh okayQuote:
Originally Posted by Canadane
I mean. It doesn't matter to me one way or the other; I never pay attention to who makes the item. -
03-17-2016, 05:34 AMColorfulI have to ask, why? I've never seen anybody complain about this until now. FFXIV's market isn't all too bad, at least in comparison to Black Desert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang
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03-17-2016, 05:58 AMNiwashiWas the name "Obtaining Signature" by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanthalas
I want to know what a piece of gear is going to say before I buy it. There have been several cases where I wouldn't buy an item because I found the name obnoxious enough that I wouldn't want to see it on my character's gear. We shouldn't have to pay for an item before we can find out whether it's a piece we'd want to use or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang
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03-17-2016, 06:41 AMSkivvyPlenty of complaints have been raised about XIV's market system. A few that I can think of off hand would be the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by Colorful
-Seller'sCrafter's name listed on crafted items - can have people harass you over listed prices, whether or not you are the one who listed it or not
-No way to buy partial stacks
-No listing fee which means people can baby sit items and adjust prices as much as they want with no penalty
-No way to place buy orders
I'm sure there are other things, others can chime in as they like :) Also, it is never a good tactic to try and defend something by claiming "It can always be worse!" -
03-17-2016, 06:51 AMZojhaIf the item you sell is actually made by you. I re-sold quite a few items made by someone else because I simply didn't need them in the rather large quantity they sold them at. It was still their name that showed up, not mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
And, uh...if I couldn't see the signature on the crafted item, I'd like to have it removed entirely when it goes over the MB >_> I'm the kind of buyer who'd rather shell out a few more gil than wear something that has the name on it I do not like for one reason or the other. -
03-17-2016, 06:52 AMAethaerynDoes this actually happen? It's never happened to me before, but I've always been a little paranoid about it. I really don't like signatures for that reason, and I doubt anyone actually pays attention to the signatures on the equipment someone is using. I've always thought it was silly to have an anonymous retainer system for selling goods, but then slap the crafter's name down on everything and show it on the MB listings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
That's another problem with it, though. I feel weird re-selling an item that has another crafter's name on it if I purchased more than I needed. ;_; And you could potentially abuse it I guess, but I doubt anyone would take the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zojha
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03-17-2016, 06:54 AMColorfulI've never had an issue with most of these things, and they seem more like design choices you personally disagree with rather than actual faults. Even in MMORPGs with listing fees, people undercut significantly and overnight you can see the value of an item drop by over 50%, the only solution would be to have a really heavy fee and that would be problem of its own. I do agree with the buy order suggestion though, I have to wonder why we don't have that. Would be nice both to buy and sell items instantly for the price people are willing to actually pay. As for saying it would always be worse, I'm simply stating that it isn't the most primitive thing out there, or even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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03-17-2016, 06:55 AMSkivvyI'm a big foggy on the details since it has been ages, but I believe in XI, names disappeared once they were listed on the auction house. So if you wanted to wear something with a name, you had to do a personal trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zojha
I get that some people like seeing their name around the city, but it would be nice to also have the option to remove the names entirely. -
03-17-2016, 07:04 AMFelisI fixed it a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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03-17-2016, 07:20 AMSkivvyhaha, thanks :) I wasn't thinking clearly on that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felis
But to answer the other two above, I personally have never been contacted by anyone negatively, but I have seen it mentioned here before. I did actually have a kind soul track me down once to let me know that I had listed an item for 5g instead of about 20k, so that was nice ;) -
03-17-2016, 07:35 AMAlexander_DragonfangIt happens, and a lot, if you are in a minimally organized crafting LS/group you will see how its basically a daily topic about X or Y guy market behavior, and many go as far as "talking them into reason" when it comes to pricing, several times i`ve been either nicely suggested to change my market behavior or harassed, and sometimes i`ve felt the need to do it to others too (good thing im a good guy!) just because sometimes the market board is ughghhajsdhasdkjas...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethaeryn
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03-17-2016, 08:04 AMNiwashi
Anyway, back to the original topic, I suspect that what the OP saw came from this:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...98c204c6199e5a
Though it wasn't clear from that note, apparently if a crafter moves to another server, or someone with crafted items in their inventory moves to another server, the server with the items ends up not having a record of the crafter's name (since they're on a different server), so all those items end up with that default message where the name would go. I'm not sure if there are other reasons as well for the system being unable to display the proper name, and end up showing "Obtaining Signature" instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch 3.0 Notes
I've also heard that at least on some servers, players have decided to joke around with that message and create a character actually named "Obtaining Signature" (who may or may not end up crafting stuff, which makes that name on crafted items a bit ambiguous if they do). -
03-17-2016, 08:22 AMAlphaFox
I personally kinda enjoyed XI's version of the market board. Completely blind, you saw what the price was selling for and made a bid if it matched one that someone posted then congrats, if not then you try again. Sure there was undercutting I am sure but you could never really tell. I have only gotten one angry tell but that was because I posted a crafted primal weapon for I think it was 2mil when the only one up there was at 7mil.