is it worth

Is it worth coming back? im level 56 bard but left because i was getting a bit boring and people told me end game was meh (before 3.2 tho) and well i decided to quit. the thing is, i hate crafting and well raiding will be possible but dunno yet. and idk about you but doing the same dailies over and over might get a bit boring imo

The question you need to ask yourself is why you left.

Nothing has changed about the end game of FFXIV and I doubt it ever will.

2 new dungeons, while fun and look nice are no change from what we usually get.

New tier of alexander raid which again is pretty much the same as what we usually get.

Then theres tome grinding and thats about it.

If you left because you disliked how endgame was in 3.x then the break MAY have been enough for you to enjoy it again. But i'd say not much overall has changed about the game or endgame.

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

Is it worth coming back? im level 56 bard but left because i was getting a bit boring and people told me end game was meh (before 3.2 tho) and well i decided to quit. the thing is, i hate crafting and well raiding will be possible but dunno yet. and idk about you but doing the same dailies over and over might get a bit boring imo

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From the way you make it sound? Nope. You wouldn't like it. I like crafting, otherwise you're going to have to bother people or pay to get things. Raiding isn't as harsh as the previous expansions for DPS checks. I don't mind going in...Tuesday - Friday I do my expert, and one or two alexander runs. By the time Friday comes. I'm caught up. Weekend off and Monday mess around with whatever.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

The question you need to ask yourself is why you left.

Nothing has changed about the end game of FFXIV and I doubt it ever will.

2 new dungeons, while fun and look nice are no change from what we usually get.

New tier of alexander raid which again is pretty much the same as what we usually get.

Then theres tome grinding and thats about it.

If you left because you disliked how endgame was in 3.x then the break MAY have been enough for you to enjoy it again. But i'd say not much overall has changed about the game or endgame.

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This isn't quite true though. Whilst the structure of content remains largely the same the quality of that content is vastly different. A LOT of people burned out on the game between 3.0 and 3.2 as the first tier of Alexander was extremely boring, the savage mode was massively overtuned (even Yoshi has admitted this) and 3.1 added very little of worth at all due to both the Diadem and Lords of Verminion being major flops (primarily because they were implemented poorly, both have promise if given a bit of love).

3.2 is much much more fun in contrast and is arguably one of the strongest patches we've had since launch.

OP if it is the structure of the endgame that put you off then that is unchanged but if it was the quality then that is very much improved now. It sounds like you quit just because someone told you it wasn't very good though so i imagine you're not really in a position to know whether you would actually like the changes or not.

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people told me end game was meh

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You see will you like end game or not is subjective. You shouldn't exactly just take other peoples word for it. That being said, if you weren't enjoying the game then, then the leveling process didn't change and you shouldn't force yourself to play what you dislike.

If you left because of the mere thought of endgame instead of the experience, I'm just gonna go out on a whim and say you probably shouldn't return.

Wait for the next welcome back campaign that they like to do after major patches. Not sure if they will do it again but they usually do one. Then you can try it yourself.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

This isn't quite true though.

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While it may be true that they are more entertaining it is still the same thing is what im meaning.

The dungeons follow the same design of literally every dungeon in this game, and the raids still remain 1 boss.

He questioned the end game and that hasn't changed. Its still cap your tomes, do normal alexander for gear and then do savage if you want to.

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Originally Posted by Andrea

While it may be true that they are more entertaining it is still the same thing is what im meaning.

The dungeons follow the same design of literally every dungeon in this game, and the raids still remain 1 boss.

He questioned the end game and that hasn't changed. Its still cap your tomes, do normal alexander for gear and then do savage if you want to.

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Of course, I just felt it was worth highlighting the distinction. I was bored out of my mind until 3.2 launched but I'm enjoying the game a lot more since we got some quality content that's actually enjoyable to play.

Why did you not finish your question in your subject line?

To answer your question, that depends on you. My interests/experiences etc will differ from you which will differ from everyone else.

That said, My immediate thoughts are no, but that said I play insane amounts still. I am highly disappointed in this game, but play it because there is 'nothing better' really.

My plan is to play this until Legion drops and swap over to WoW. I wish more traditional PvE focsed MMOs were in development, have been pretty disappointed in all the new MMO's coming out and have little hype for all the ones in development.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Of course, I just felt it was worth highlighting the distinction. I was bored out of my mind until 3.2 launched but I'm enjoying the game a lot more since we got some quality content that's actually enjoyable to play.

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I think its safe to say the vast majority of players were bored out of their minds before 3.2. Or at least You, myself and the majority of the forum at the very least.

It wasn't the most entertaining period that this games had thats for sure.

I think you should stick with FFXIV, make some friends, and run endgame content when you're able to do so. At lvl 56 you only have a little way to go before you can start gearing up and getting ready for endgame, and if you haven't finished the Main Scenario Quests you need to get on that. The story is great, the content is fun, and even though there is a lot of grinding involved, which requires running the same dungeons over and over, it can be a fun experience each time and it can feel really good when you finally have enough tomes and are able to get a fresh new piece of gear.

This game has content added more frequently than any other MMORPG, as far as I am aware, so there's always going to be new content to keep you entertained. Stick with it, level other jobs, and try to have fun. If you give it another shot, reach level 60, finish the Main Scenario and still don't feel like FFXIV is right for you then you'll have at least applied the right amount of effort to really know if this is the game for you!

so basically you dont play ffxiv during weekend? whats your ilvl?

thanks for all the answers guys :) i will give this one a shot.

but have you guys played blade and soul? i might think of giving that one a try too. but dunno

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

thanks for all the answers guys :) i will give this one a shot.

but have you guys played blade and soul? i might think of giving that one a try too. but dunno

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I played Blade and Soul, and had fun leveling and quickly tossed it aside upon reaching max level.

In my opinion, PvE in the game is horrible, uncoordinated and a gong show. PvP felt like the focus, but despite this, the balance was horrible. So I'd give the leveling experience a 8/10, PvE at max a 3/10 and PvP a 4/10. I mean, kinda random, but the gist is there.

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

but have you guys played blade and soul? i might think of giving that one a try too. but dunno

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I mean Blade and Soul is a F2P game so you wouldn't waste money in trying it out.

Overall I thought BnS was fun, until you hit max level.

Then its literally just dailies and waiting to get enough gold/whatever else you need to upgrade your stuff.

I'd suggest playing it but dont expect it to be amazing unless you like PvP.

Currently playing Blade and Soul in favor of this ATM, but I won't deny that endgame is dull as hell right now. On the other hand, combat and comboing are super fast-paced, fairly skill intensive, and rely on quick reflexes in some aspects (a good PC/ping in others...ugh). Going back to XIV's 2+ second GCD just feels positively glacial in comparison.

If you're interested in something more pvp-focused and casual, BNS is great. Log in, do dailies, thrash some peeps in arena, log out. If you're looking for a game to sink endless hours into and foster a friendly, helpful community...avoid it like the plague. There's a real lack of side content that hasn't been remedied in the games' native Korean origin, and the NA community is just frothingly angry all the time.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Currently playing Blade and Soul in favor of this ATM, but I won't deny that endgame is dull as hell right now. On the other hand, combat and comboing are super fast-paced, fairly skill intensive, and rely on quick reflexes in some aspects (a good PC/ping in others...ugh). Going back to XIV's 2+ second GCD just feels positively glacial in comparison.

If you're interested in something more pvp-focused and casual, BNS is great. Log in, do dailies, thrash some peeps in arena, log out. If you're looking for a game to sink endless hours into and foster a friendly, helpful community...avoid it like the plague. There's a real lack of side content that hasn't been remedied in the games' native Korean origin, and the NA community is just frothingly angry all the time.

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hey im in levi server too im trying to /tell you over there are you on?

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Currently playing Blade and Soul in favor of this ATM, but I won't deny that endgame is dull as hell right now. On the other hand, combat and comboing are super fast-paced, fairly skill intensive, and rely on quick reflexes in some aspects (a good PC/ping in others...ugh). Going back to XIV's 2+ second GCD just feels positively glacial in comparison.

If you're interested in something more pvp-focused and casual, BNS is great. Log in, do dailies, thrash some peeps in arena, log out. If you're looking for a game to sink endless hours into and foster a friendly, helpful community...avoid it like the plague. There's a real lack of side content that hasn't been remedied in the games' native Korean origin, and the NA community is just frothingly angry all the time.

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or havent you re sub in ffxiv?

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

hey im in levi server too im trying to /tell you over there are you on?

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Ah sorry, I'm at work right now. I do have a sub currently, but pretty much log to do dungeon hallway roulette (expert roulette) then log out.

Do you like doing chores?

"yes": resub, enjoy
"i'm not sure?": resub, probably not enjoy
"hell no!": probably don't resub

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

Ah sorry, I'm at work right now. I do have a sub currently, but pretty much log to do dungeon hallway roulette (expert roulette) then log out.

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not gonna lie but that sucks imo not worth paying for that idk about u ;p but still im looking forward to play with you :)

btw is blade and soul dying? i see a lot of bots, imbalance and server lag.

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

not gonna lie but that sucks imo not worth paying for that idk about u ;p but still im looking forward to play with you :)

btw is blade and soul dying? i see a lot of bots, imbalance and server lag.

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"Dying" is a bit relative...XIV's been doing it for years, if you believe the forums every pre-patch lull. But people aren't exactly wrong about bots and lag (though I experience none of it myself, playing on the East Coast). Class imbalance exists, but is much overblown by bads who pick high-skill melee classes then wonder why they can't furiously roll their face over their keyboard in a horizontal direction and do well. Better balance patches will occur when the level cap is raised in a few months, but I don't find the game too bad as it is.

tl;dr, it's good for a lark and free to try, so give it a go. If you don't like it, all you waste is your time, whereas with this game you're out $12 lol.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

"Dying" is a bit relative...XIV's been doing it for years, if you believe the forums every pre-patch lull. But people aren't exactly wrong about bots and lag (though I experience none of it myself, playing on the East Coast). Class imbalance exists, but is much overblown by bads who pick high-skill melee classes then wonder why they can't furiously roll their face over their keyboard in a horizontal direction and do well. Better balance patches will occur when the level cap is raised in a few months, but I don't find the game too bad as it is.

tl;dr, it's good for a lark and free to try, so give it a go. If you don't like it, all you waste is your time, whereas with this game you're out $12 lol.

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what game do you find more casual blade or ffxiv? because in blade yeah you have dailies but it takes more time to do than ffxiv i think (im not 60 yet) it takes me like 3-4 hours to complete all blades dailies without alt

3.2 story is worth returning for.. if you care at all about the characters in the game and the world.. otherwise.. everything is pretty much the same as it was when you quit.. Its still a daily grind for tombstones if you decide to play long term.. but I really think returning for the story is worth it..

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Originally Posted by Ramadok

what game do you find more casual blade or ffxiv? because in blade yeah you have dailies but it takes more time to do than ffxiv i think (im not 60 yet) it takes me like 3-4 hours to complete all blades dailies without alt

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I guess the simplest way to describe it is....the hardest content in BNS is not as hard as the hardest content in FFXIV. On the other hand, the easiest content in BNS is way harder than the easiest content in FFXIV. If you're a midcore player, you should be able to clear everything in BNS with enough gear and practice, though I'll never recommend pugging.

If you're using "casual" as a reference to time spent rather than player skill, then BNS is way more grindy/hardcore than FFXIV. Boatloads more. The content is pretty ACCESSIBLE, but as you mentioned with the dailies, very time-consuming. I like the combat enough where I don't mind spamming the same two raid zones for money and upgrades, but the combat can only carry the game so far. We'll see what the level cap raise in a month or two brings.