Adrammelech, the Wroth in FF14

I was checking espers/summons wayback then and I remember Adrammelech when I played FF in GB Advance SP and FF14. It was interesting seeing this primal being summoned

"Emperor among the scions, able to reduce to nothing aught he strikes with a single vengeful blow of his fist, created in opposition to Deudalephon the Benevolent, scion of light. Though he was made by the gods to quell the fiends that raged in the Otherworld, his immense strength and fearsome visage drew the fiends to his side, and turned him against his creators. Adrammelech rose to prominence in the Otherworld, whence he led a fiendish horde against the gods, but in the end, he was defeated."

More espers! hehe

Yeah, that was an awesome...

... wait, what? When did that happen? The only Ivalice espers to show up in-game are Belias, who shows up only in egi form during the SMN 50 quest, and Cu Chulainn, who is a Voidsent and the semifinal boss of the Void Ark. Adrammelech has not been mentioned in XIV yet, though Deudalephon is likely one among the Ascians.

I think OP means it was interesting when he was summoned in FFTA. Which was as a Totema, not a Primal.

yeah I am just wishing and expecting an old for like The Wroth in our game:) oh It was interesting I didn't see Belias yet. We have more espers at disposal

Oh, just another "I wanna see [X]" topic? The wording was kind of ambiguous.

My personal request is Ark from IX.

I wanna see the Magus Sisters.

I would also include the 4 Fiends but I think the original Primal trio+Levi got that covered

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Oh, just another "I wanna see [X]" topic? The wording was kind of ambiguous.

My personal request is Ark from IX.

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Then it turns out the Void Ark is the final boss of the Void Ark 24-man raid.

Dark summon and all.

Can I have Fenrir?

Yeah yeah, we saw him in Snowcloak... Oh wait, no we didn't;

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A massive hoarhound beholden to Lady Iceheart. With its shimmering hide reminiscent of pale moonlight and a demeanor just as cold, this imposing beast was named after the legendary spirit-hound Fenrir.

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From the Triple Triad card... Legendary spirit-hound? That has Primal written all over it...

I'd also quite like Belias to be "cleaned up". It... annoys me, that Belias is seemingly a Primal, while Cuchulainn is a Voidsent... All the XII Espers were originally Voidsent, and a group took Belias and fashioned a Primal out of his legend? The Void has its own group of Primals? I don't care. Either all the XII Espers are Primals, or they're all Voidsent, this upsets me far more than it should... I'm hoping Cuchulainn is a Voidsent named after a Primal ("Hey, this Voidsent looks like that poop-tribes Primal!", Eorzeans are well known for fudging names up...), in the same way the Zalera we have in game is definitely not the only Zalera we're getting...

Just a thought, ArenPrimal and Voidsent mutually exclusive terms or can a "God of The Void" actually be both a Voidsent AND a Primal?

This is more thinking back to how Atomos Prime was a crystal just like Bahamut Prime was the spirit of Primal Bahamut Withen the Primal's heart-crystal. (Also, do we know if Bahamut is the oy primal with a heart-crystal or do all Primals have one?)

Belias and CuChulain from Ivalice lore are in FFXIV

also Zodiark, but I guess that's obvious

All of the Ascian names are from Ivalice lore, too; saying they're from Ivalice doesn't really say much at all.

I agree with Nalien that some being primals and some being voidsent is a bit irritating. Consistency would be nice.

On the subject of things I want to see in XIV. . .Pandaemonium Warden and Absolute Virtue, even if only as dungeon bosses and references.

It would be one thing if FFXII's Espers were entirely unique, but there's an issue with Espers like Mateus, who is named after Mateus Palamecia, the canonical-but-never-uttered name of FFII's Emperor. Do they go for the XII reference, or acknowledge what XII was referencing? Then there's Exodus, who's name in katakana became Exdeath in FFV's translation. (And that's aside the whole other tangential mess that, with very few exceptions, Esper/Eidolon/Summon/etc. are all the same word in Japanese, that gets rendered differently every time in English.)

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Do they go for the XII reference, or acknowledge what XII was referencing? Then there's Exodus, who's name in katakana became Exdeath in FFV's translation.

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Do both. Exodus is Exodus, but we can still reference ExDeath with him. Give the Elementals another special tree, with it sealing an evil spirit, that we investigate. Plot twist, Allag sealed a Primal there, and in Allag times the Twelveswood was know as the Forest of Moore. Bonus points if Krile comes along for that ride.

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Complete side point, somewhat related to Primals; We got Kirin for all the pony farming, what do we suppose we'll get for all the pigeon farming? Quetzalcoatl perhaps? I'd scream Valefor had the Doma Kids quest not already got me hyped for that... Perhaps they'll tie the two together though... (and then comment on how some silly scholar named a class of Voidsent after the legendary creature, to drive my Cuchulainn speculation?!)

My personal guess is that for getting all the pigeons we'll get Suzaku. Would make sense, given how Kirin and Suzaku were connected in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Calcion

My personal guess is that for getting all the pigeons we'll get Suzaku. Would make sense, given how Kirin and Suzaku were connected in FFXI.

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And then we're get Primal Dragons, Adamantoises and Tigers next.

Admitably that would be awesome to get the four symbols as mounts, but it would depend on if SE can make them compatible with all the features for mounts that are gonna be introduced.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

And then we're get Primal Dragons, Adamantoises and Tigers next.

Admitably that would be awesome to get the four symbols as mounts, but it would depend on if SE can make them compatible with all the features for mounts that are gonna be introduced.

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Well, Turtles already have fart powered propulsion in Eorzea, so at this point I no longer question the abilities of Eorzean Fauna when it comes to travel. Next thing you know we'll have magma monsters that swim. Or some one will be riding atop a primal of some kind.

If we're going to ride on a primal it better be Bismarck. inb4 Shiva

Because reasons.

I do like the idea of Suzaku being king birdie to be the best one, but the Ravana birdie is kind of red and fire-y already.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

Next thing you know we'll have magma monsters that swim.

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The fishing log indicates they exist.

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

The fishing log indicates they exist.

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We have turtles, crabs, and fish is Lava, but a creature made of molten magma Floating across the ocean would scientifically turn to stone and sink. Maybe die too since it's a living being.