Selene skills

So im just curious how much of u find selene skills actually effective.
The only one it seems to be somehow ok is the 3% faster attacks. But it is worth it? In a 10 minutes raid if i have it all the time i can its only a 9 seconds more dps...
If that worth the 20% magic res heal buff and regen of eos?

To be fair I had quite a few wipes at near 0% where the 3% is actually something that either save you or kill you.

I have also found that Fey Caress is invaluable for those time when someone miss a mechanic and there is a raid wide Stun that can simply be removed with 1 skill.

The silence skill is not very useful, but if you manage to force selene to obey you you can look good ^ ^

Overall, it is as it always was, eos if you need the extra healing, selene for all the other situation.

At least in my opinion

it's very situational, i tend to use selene for fights that aren't very AoE heavy and i'm confident i can heal through them no problem giving the dps a nice little buff, as where Eos i will have out if the fights/bosses are heavy in AoE and i need alittle extra heals to keep everyone safe.

I use Eos for 4 mans and Selene for 8 mans and soloing. With Selene on sic she'll keep that sweet speed buff up, and usually will dispel any nasty debuffs about as fast as you can, so she's best left to her own devices. I find most of the time my heals are sufficient for any content and only use Eos for the party regen when I want to be lazy/dps more, or if I know the tank is pulling huge.

The 3% can help with a few DPS openers - or make them slightly easier to pull off depending on mechanics and interrupts.

3% haste is generally better than nothing at all, and as ruskie mentioned it can help with openeres if, especially if you're lagging or low on SS. Also Fey Carress at worst case can still be used to cleanse of Pacification, Poison, etc. off a single person and you'll save a GCD on it.
I wouldn't use Eos unless your healing partner in 8man asks you to (or solo healing it), but if you prefer to use her on any content at least use her on Obey. Can't stand seeing Whispering Dawn > Fey Covenant > Fey Illumination going off the first second of a fight (and in an order that makes no sense).

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Originally Posted by amihavingfunyet

I wouldn't use Eos unless your healing partner in 8man asks you to (or solo healing it), but if you prefer to use her on any content at least use her on Obey. Can't stand seeing Whispering Dawn > Fey Covenant > Fey Illumination going off the first second of a fight (and in an order that makes no sense).

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That reminds me of something I needed to test. I had Eos out for something (I think a fight was going sideways for some reason or another and I needed the extra healing power) and had forgotten to switch her to Obey before the pull, but she used Fae Illumination before Whispering Dawn. I was in shock.

In full parties depends on who my co healer is. In things like void arks third boss I would typically place selene behind the boss so she can fey wind the dps. While I stand off to one side and other healer takes the other.

Allows me to remove poisons if the dps are slow to move even if they're out of my range selene can usually get them. Also good in there for the first boss if ppl are slow and get electrocuted.

The only skill that's not much cop I think is silence.

My only issue is I witch pets remembered settings. Nearly always watch my fairys pop all her abilities in my first duty of the day cos she defaults to sic when you log in

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Originally Posted by RaineAmorie

I use Eos for 4 mans and Selene for 8 mans and soloing. With Selene on sic she'll keep that sweet speed buff up, and usually will dispel any nasty debuffs about as fast as you can, so she's best left to her own devices. I find most of the time my heals are sufficient for any content and only use Eos for the party regen when I want to be lazy/dps more, or if I know the tank is pulling huge.

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Wait.... does Selene use Fey Caress only when people get a debuff if she's on Sic? O_o

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Originally Posted by Dzian

My only issue is I witch pets remembered settings. Nearly always watch my fairys pop all her abilities in my first duty of the day cos she defaults to sic when you log in

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You can macro your summon to avoid that, I think the command is /pac obey right after the summon, I'll check back when I'll log.

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Originally Posted by Fernosaur

Wait.... does Selene use Fey Caress only when people get a debuff if she's on Sic? O_o

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She will use it on *any* debuff, but she will only use it when a debuff is there.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

She will use it on *any* debuff, but she will only use it when a debuff is there.

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Main issue is that she will use it even if the debuff can't be remove by Esuna/Leeches aka 95% of debuff in raid content.
Would be glad if they corrected that, this way, I could keep it for the WAR's pacification.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

She will use it on *any* debuff, but she will only use it when a debuff is there.

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If your tank is a warrior, she likes to blow it on the post-berserk pacification.

I find fairy swapping to be the most efficient thing to do when possible. For 4 man I generally use Eos on trash mobs since her buffed heals and mitigation allow me to contribute more AoE dps than if relying on selene's speed buff for the 30 sec the mobs are even alive for. But when fighting the bosses I'll swap to selene since the speed buff over a longer duration is more meaningful and damage to tank isn't as heavy as the large mob pulls.

8 mans I generally find parts in fights during progression where I can keep selene out but swap later on to eos when healing gets intensive (and vice versa).

My main issue with the fairies overall is that their utilities aren't really balanced with each other. All of Eos' abilities are very effective for healing raid damage but selene's tools are a lot more limited in application. With the silence being almost completely forgotten and the AoE leeches being handy but VERY situational, Selene's dps support tools don't weight as equally in my mind as Eos' healing support being offered. IMO i'd prefer if selene's silence were replaced with a different raid offensive utility to better balance against how much Eos has to offer.

B> Fey Explosion 15 sec cd 70 potency AOE based on mind (Equivalent to Topaz Carbuncles "Shining Topaz" instead of Silent Dusk [Even though it IS our only stop that skill limited applications or not.)]

I think I did the math a while back, but obviously the more people in your party the more DPS selene brings. 8 party members getting an extra attack every 33 hits, outweighs the extra hit Eos frees up with the extra healing. Eos boosts dps by almost 1% as long as you don't overheal, where as selene boosts dps APPROACHING 3%. Its not a massive difference, but a gain is a gain.

PS. Also Agreed. Fey Caress is the best thing that ever happened to selene. She is borderline a mechanic breaker.

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Originally Posted by Kaenbyou

You can macro your summon to avoid that, I think the command is /pac obey right after the summon, I'll check back when I'll log.

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Obey should be commanded just after your fairy summons in. Which is roughly two seconds after the summon ability finishes. For an example macro:

/ac Swiftcast <wait.2>
/ac Summon <wait.2>
/pac Obey <wait.6>
/pac Obey

The second Obey is present in case Swiftcast was down and you had to summon the long way.

On another note, I always use Eos because Selene's haste buff doesn't seem worth it. 0.075s shaved off a 2.5 second global cooldown seems completely insignificant. You'd earn an extra ability for every buffed 33 abilities you use... Except with the number of people espousing how useful it is, I'm starting to think I have the mechanics wrong. Could someone give me a rundown?

For me it's situational. Back in 2.0 I rarely used Selene, now I use her more than Eos. But it really depends on what I'm doing.

I never thought I would ever say this, but Selene's silence ability has been saving lives in a6s when the BRD dies.

I wish Selene's haste buff was more noticeable, but when you don't need Eos's healing kit she's still fairy-best-friend.