Mentor Roulette Working as Intended?

Just got out of Mentor Roulette, got Sohm Al, first think i saw as odd. Then got to first boss and like i always do see if anyone had questions about mechanics. got awkward stares and crickets. And then was told "you have a crown Miss Mentor, don't you know you can just burn this boss now?" so i checked levels and everyone had multiple 60s?!?! and realized i did not see bonus tomes message at the start. WTF, thought the Mentor roulette was to help new players through content, or was i mistaken?

I THINK the patch notes said the Mentor Roulette is to help people who are struggling to get roles filled in the party make up.

mentor roulette will try to match you with new player, but if it don't find new player, it can send you to any content, that a bit silly actually.

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

mentor roulette will try to match you with new player, but if it don't find new player, it can send you to any content, that a bit silly actually.

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I don't find it that silly. If it was for finding first timers only, you'd probably be stuck waiting for a long time if there's new new players in the duty finder.

ok, all of the above makes sense. guess not i will check levels before i open make another ass out myself. LOL

It is working as intended. You just have to realize that there's an over abundance of mentors out there. So if it can't find a new player, it'll throw you in something random to help que times for people waiting. Another thing is, just because people have multiple 60s doesn't be they don't need help. Contrary to popular belief, Mentors aren't limited to just helping first timers. It's entirely possible that someone in that party could've used some kind of advice somewhere in the dungeon, such as pointers for their rotation. Need to keep the world free of Ice Mages ya know.

"you can just burn this boss now?" as if you ever couldn't.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

Mentor rou will never put you with another mentor but that doesn't always mean they will be newbies. Also, that is a rude comment IMO, yes the boss is burnable, but had there been there been some new, who is to say they don't need to know the mechanics?

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Agreed, i never meant to insinuate that only sprouts or new players needed help. I for one am the first person to speak up in an instance when i have never done something or have not become 100% in my role in a specfic instance and always open to advice tips suggestions and critiques to become a better tank/healer/dps and have the ability to pull my weight accordingly. My reasoning behind the post was not the multiple 60s, it was my apparent misunderstanding behind the mentor roulette in general. I am always open to helping anyone is is open to learning. I should not have to be open to being disrespected when i do. Having the ninja(in this case, but anyone in general) face pull mobs if i am a few seconds behind the time he thinks the mob should be pulled, or trying to explain mechanics of a boss and they get impatient.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I THINK the patch notes said the Mentor Roulette is to help people who are struggling to get roles filled in the party make up.

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This. As long as it doesn't already have a mentor in the party, it'll stick you into whatever needs filling.

My first 5 Mentor Roulettes were Dusk Vigil with people who knew what they were doing. XD

Mentor rou will never put you with another mentor but that doesn't always mean they will be newbies. Also, that is a rude comment IMO, yes the boss is burnable, but had there been there been some new, who is to say they don't need to know the mechanics?

That's kind of funny. I was wondering why mentor roulette requires a few pieces of content I've never bothered with (I'm not a fan of 8-man content), because you're never going to see a new leaf in any content beyond Brayflox normal. I assumed it would just be infinite satasha/tamtara/copperbell runs with the occasional ifrit normal and maybe a haukke manor run.

I don't understand the benefit of doing it. It barely gives any rewards, and it doesn't help anyone. I feel more useful with the other roulettes.

The dev's never mentioned the 30 dungeons/ex's/trials/raids that were required. It's a really long list for content that leafs probably don't need help with. If you don't know your class after 50 there's not a lot a mentor can help you on.

Of course, as I write this when I DPS I double the other guy consistently so maybe they do need the help or they just are phoning it in.

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Originally Posted by Selli

This. As long as it doesn't already have a mentor in the party, it'll stick you into whatever needs filling.

My first 5 Mentor Roulettes were Dusk Vigil with people who knew what they were doing. XD

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It'll even match you with another mentor if needed, just to help with queue times.
I've been in a roulette with 3 mentors before.

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Originally Posted by Alistaire

"you can just burn this boss now?" as if you ever couldn't.

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I know right? First day of 3.0 it was burnable.

On topic, if this roulette only matched you with newbs then it would be a great way to fish for bonus. Bad thing? Maybe not. New relic got loads of people through old content

So far I've been paired with at least 1 new person and no other mentor. I always just toss out a greeting and say that if anyone has questions, they just should ask. The multiple 60s people usually say "I'm good" and those who are truly new do tend to ask if there's something to watch out for (which I usually just give them the most important thing for their role).
That said I did join as tank so far cause that's what DF needs most of the time and I always got different content. (Ifrit story, Vault, Research Facility, Copperbell story, Anti-Tower)

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Originally Posted by Anarnee

Mentor rou will never put you with another mentor but that doesn't always mean they will be newbies. Also, that is a rude comment IMO, yes the boss is burnable, but had there been there been some new, who is to say they don't need to know the mechanics?

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My first and only mentor roulette was three mentors and an old player leveling a tank.

Another thing to keep in mind here is (no offense to OP) the qualifications to slap the crown on your head don't really mean much. The first mentor I saw in game was someone I know who proclaimed in 3.0 they played SCH with only 2 action bars. I was talking about how they might need a 4th now and confirmed, if you don't keybind at least 1 action to something off your bars, you have 37 actions you should have easily accessible. vs 24 on 2 bars. I could forgive not having things like pet actions on your main bars, but that only covers 4 actions + place, there's still a lot of things that SCH doesn't even have ready to use, let alone be good enough at the job to be considered a good mentor.

Even found out on one of my characters if you meet the gatherer/crafter requirements you get mentor status. He's only got 1 lv 60 combat class, ran into the npc by fluke and figured I'd see the message about not qualifying but he goes "You're a mentor now!"

So basically you're a mentor and you're a mentor and you're a mentor and you're a mentor and you're a mentor and you're a mentor and HEY YOU OVER THERE COME GET YOUR MENTOR CROWN!

Mentor roullette also includes stuff not found in other roullettes eg. A1N to A4N, Crystal tower.

Its primarily to also allocate some roullette support to hard to fill instances like Crystal tower. I dont know if its reduced CT wait times though lol.

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Originally Posted by Phileas

Mentor roullette also includes stuff not found in other roullettes eg. A1N to A4N, Crystal tower.

Its primarily to also allocate some roullette support to hard to fill instances like Crystal tower. I dont know if its reduced CT wait times though lol.

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It reduced the wait time for World of Darkness, before the patch I tried several times to get in to do it and waited 3+ hours with no luck. I tried again yesterday and was in within 30 mins and finally got it completed.

The mentor roulette is helping the que for older content.

Yeah I feel the mentor system altogether is more of a front for adding a "everything in 1 roulette" to help obscure queues.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

The dev's never mentioned the 30 dungeons/ex's/trials/raids that were required.

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All duties for Mentor Roulette are listed in 3.2 patch notes... And when I see another Mentor repeatedly landslided in Titan Ex I'm always wondering why requirements for becoming a Mentor have nothing to do with their skills?.. It's obviosly they don't qualify for real stuff.

I think all you really have to do is want to help people to be a Mentor, and sometimes that might not include having done TEX or the other EXs a load of times. I keep getting MEX with everyone being new except me and things kind of go bonkers since I don't know exactly what the other roles do since I always healed the fight when I did it. :(