99 totems per mount!?. Can we have this!?. | I don't want to farm primals forever!.

I would ask Square Enix to give us the option to trade 99 totems of a given primal for its mount since I don't want, ever again, to farm for ponies or falcons with the uncertainty of getting one someday!...

.- Drop rate is too low and RNG always seems to favor anyone else but oneself.

.- Lootmaster rules don't work because it would take hundreds of runs for everyone to get their falcons and a farm party won't run for longer than a dozen clears, if they ever get it going.

.- A static for falcon's farming won't happen easily and not everyone can get in one anyway.

So, just give us the option to trade 99 hard won totems for the respective mount, that way we can be at ease knowing we will someday get the mount!...

They eventually nerf the rarity of mounts. Ponies aren't anywhere near as rare as they used to be.

Farming keeps content alive longer though.

I agree with any arbitrary number. Be it 99, be it 200. We're already not farming for a weapon until it drops, we're farming for it at most until we have 10 tokens. No matter how high the RNG is someone is likely to stay unlucky. Meaning who would it harm?

EDIT: for example yesterday I've farmed for 7h. IT was half static, half pugs. We didn't even SEE a single drop. It got so bad, that we decided that the moment it drops, even if it goes not to us, but to randoms we're going to cheer and screenshot it.

7h farming thats a lot of kills ...and 0 drops ?

they want to keep the content alive , but when the 8 ppl farming dont need anything from it and are there just because the mount , thats not "alive" .... u arent helping new players to kill the primal , u arent getting some1 weapon.... u are just tossing your dice against the wall...with a 2% (aprox?) chance of dropping a mount that goes 1 lucky player (of 8).

probably got about 45 runs since 3.2 and I've only seen 1 drop.

God I would love this really. Its hard enough to find a group that can clear the fights consistently. To then have a the low % rng drop AND have to beat our 7 other ppl? Its just not worth it :(

At least this way there's an end in sight. I know that after certain amount of wins I'll get a mount. Keep the drop rate as is but give us the option to trade in tomes for them. And like someone said. Make 100 make it 200 whatever # you see fit. Just give me a light at the end of the farming tunnel

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Originally Posted by heynowjose

At least this way there's an end in sight.

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It's always nice to know when something will be completed, to have a goal, I strongly dislike uncertainty and if they made it, and I think it's more than a fair amount, 99 totems per mount it would make it so much nicer for everyone!...

I remember farming Shiva EX for more than 200 times and seeing how many got their ponies while I never did, I had to buy mine actually, it felt really bad and I don't want anything of that to ever repeat!...

I doubt the trials will die anyway since there is always someone clearing for the first time or someone wanting a specific weapon!...

So please, Square Enix, just make it possible to trade 99 totems for the mounts!...

I only have a dozen hive totems so don't worry, I'd still have to clear Ravana 87 times yet, the other primals even more!... -_-

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Originally Posted by Ragology

Farming keeps content alive longer though.

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it also burns out people faster. Personally I might increase the count since I'm already above 50 totems and I have only seen 2 and yes the person who fell off won the mount. /sigh

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Originally Posted by Marxam

it also burns out people faster. Personally I might increase the count since I'm already above 50 totems and I have only seen 2 and yes the person who fell off won the mount. /sigh

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And didn't the relic also burn out people for being too grindy and too long? I had to do a double take when I saw this thread.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

And didn't the relic also burn out people for being too grindy and too long? I had to do a double take when I saw this thread.

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The relic quest also had an element of randomness to it. We didn't beat a set number of FATEs to get the drop. Some people got it first try, others took weeks to get the same drop.

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Originally Posted by Chasely

The relic quest also had an element of randomness to it. We didn't beat a set number of FATEs to get the drop. Some people got it first try, others took weeks to get the same drop.

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I meant more of the non FATE ones. You know, the ones where you have to grind your butt off for those unidentifiable items that people hated.

That was more a problem with the majority of the questline being back-ended to a single upgrade. if we'd gotten more marginal upgrades in between people would have felt as though they were progressing. Yes, that could happen here as well. It jsut depends on how SE wants to handle the situation. The answer is almost always: very poorly.

Honestly I lost all hope on farming that thing, I think total I ran it at least 30-40 times and no drops and knowing my luck on rolls I won't win the first time it does drop if it ever does. Probably just wait till its luck helping an FC member or they get nerfed. As it has been said, its not keeping content alive cus most people farming are preset pro's who wouldn't dream of letting a new person join them. At least what I have seen on my server.

I was lucky enough to get Ravana bird on my 8th run... Does that mean it saved me 91 more runs if devs implemented your proposal?

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Originally Posted by AlphaFox

Honestly I lost all hope on farming that thing, I think total I ran it at least 30-40 times and no drops and knowing my luck on rolls I won't win the first time it does drop if it ever does. Probably just wait till its luck helping an FC member or they get nerfed. As it has been said, its not keeping content alive cus most people farming are preset pro's who wouldn't dream of letting a new person join them. At least what I have seen on my server.

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I don't think a lot of you folks understand what it means to keep content alive in an MMORPG. In general, it has absolutely nothing to do with new people. That could be a benefit in some way or the obvious intent (e.g. Low level roulette), but if the purpose is to keep old content active, it doesn't matter who does it. Participation is there, be it vet or new, mission accomplished.

Another thing to point out is how RNG works with intentionally low chances to drop. 30-40 attempts is hardly noteworthy for something that's likely a maximum of 2% drop chance, though quite possibly lower than 1%. Realistically speaking, you'd have to clear the content hundreds of times to be afforded the most likely occurrence of even seeing it drop before we start to consider the dice roll to obtain it. The nice thing about XIV is that they will likely increase the drop chance once the prestige has had time to be worn off, unlike some other games. The OPs suggestion of the value of the item being quantified is always an option to run with, but that's up to the devs how they view the items value. Do they want it to be so prestigious that it's not quantifiable? Or do they want to put a value on something that would otherwise be left up to the players who obtain them through current means?

I would be all for this I think.

I have over 300 Levi clears and still never got that pony

Sorry OP, but this is the whole point behind these mounts. If we could get them any other way, people wouldn't farm and the content wouldn't be run multiple times. Personally, I like it. They aren't anything more than collectables after all.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Sorry OP, but this is the whole point behind these mounts. If we could get them any other way, people wouldn't farm and the content wouldn't be run multiple times. Personally, I like it. They aren't anything more than collectables after all.

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actually if they set it for a lot of tokens (200-500-even 1000), that's A LOT of farming that people would do. But if you're the unluckyest human out there, there would be a lgiht at the end of your tunnel. IT might even encourage people to clear it for newbies, because they would know that the mount will be guaranteed at one point and not stolen from them.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

I was lucky enough to get Ravana bird on my 8th run... Does that mean it saved me 91 more runs if devs implemented your proposal?

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Not at all. It'd be treated like the weapons. You got lucky and got your drop. The other 7 party members however didn't lose their time. They got 8 totems and need 91 more for the mount. Keep the drop rate as is. So if you get it on your way 100 great! Awesome! If you never get it you know that 100 clears will still net you the mount.

Its the reason getting weapons from ex fights are so much better now. Even if it doesn't drop or someone out rolls you you know that in 10 clears you'll get it.

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Originally Posted by Ragology

Farming keeps content alive longer though.

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On the flip side I'm not going to bother dedicating several dozen or even hundreds of hours farming these mounts if they're reliant on RNG, as they're just going to get nerfed in the future. Especially when you consider that some of them come from challenging primals, and people on DF still can't grasp the mechanics of Bismarck Extreme.