So messing around on Ariyala's website, it looks like I can eitherIncluding my wife's main and our alts, that means crafting up each of the craft-specific 2-Star LH gears, except maybe the chest pieces (the scrip chest pieces are not bad and have 4 CP). The common 170 gear (accessories and belt) gear we already have for all four characters.
- sink millions of gil into pentamelding my left-hand side 150 gear, or
- craft the craft-specific 170 LH gear for each specialist class and trimeld it.
That's a lot of 2-Star crafting. It's not something we'll be able to do over a lunch break, you know?
Is this a reasonable plan, or am I just irrationally afraid of pentamelding?
The Path to 3-Star is ... paved with more 2-Star crafting
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02-26-2016, 03:42 PMSilverbaneThe Path to 3-Star is ... paved with more 2-Star crafting
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02-26-2016, 03:49 PMRufalus
I'm afraid of pentamelding too. I don't have the materia supply to use good melds all the way to the bottom, and I don't think it's worth spending millions of gil on it. Waiting till you have more of the superior 170/180 gear is a good idea in my opinion. You only really need uber gear for 3 classes at the moment, said since the 3-star recipes are all specialist.
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02-26-2016, 04:05 PMSilverbaneMy main character has three Specializations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rufalus
My wife's main character has three Specializations.
My alt character has three Specializations but I only plan to gear up one at first.
My wife's alt character has three Specializations but she only plans to gear up one at first.
So it's a nice problem that we have, but still a problem. ;) -
02-26-2016, 07:24 PMNekotee
You don't need 8 specialist in fact
The alchmist need only his book but stay 2* and provider camphor which is non specialist
(I don't know who want to try the new awful potion XD)
The BSM is mostly useless because ARM can do the same ingot and do armor (while bsm got alagan replica and fourniture)
So the main Crafter to have are GSM, CRP, WVR, LTW, ARM
Still didn't see the CUL book...
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02-26-2016, 08:17 PMSilverbaneThanks, that's good advice. We'll do GSM (wife's main), CRP (my main), WVR (wife's main), LTW (my main), and ARM (my alt) first. Or I might switch my main to ARM, since my wife's alt has BSM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
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02-26-2016, 09:23 PMNekotee
After looking at 3* recipe for culinarian
It's not that worth it to have it...
Maybe 1 or 2 food could be good raid food
The gatherer food is brillant
The crafting one is awful
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02-26-2016, 10:09 PMStouterTaru
I'm not big on heavy melding, here's the setup I'm working on:
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02-27-2016, 12:39 AMZorlintaHmm i like your setup, it doestn really needs materias IV and still could be pushed up slightly for a bit more cp just in case or replace the 180 with 170 and cheap overldsQuote:
Originally Posted by StouterTaru
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02-27-2016, 01:59 AMRoth_Trailfinder
While nowhere near as common as Tier 3, Tier 4 Materia are at least obtainable, and have been for quite some time, even with airships returning a lot of them.
Personally, I'm trying to hit 3* craft/control without the Soul of the Crafter and without food. It's doable, though requires very heavy melding. I'm using one i180 piece, the rest are going to be all i170. CP first and foremost, then Control, then whatever room is left over gets some Craftsmanship Materia. -
02-27-2016, 02:31 AMZorlintaAye i would love do that too, but sadly on my server control IV jumped from 200k b4 patch to 600-700k now, Control III to 120-150k. And also is hard get the materia from ship when are few crafters on the FC that also need them.Quote:
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02-27-2016, 05:12 AMRoth_Trailfinder
Eh, I meant that they were attainable even before airships started returning a lot of them. SB i46-i55 gear that you make cheaply. Convert it to Materia. Sell off whatever Materia you don't want to use.
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02-29-2016, 07:19 AMCaeles
Any reason to SB i46-i55 and not i100 gear which is converting to TIV @ 70-80%?
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02-29-2016, 09:40 AMRoth_Trailfinder
Depends on what you are QS'ing to SB it. I was thinking along the lines of cobalt ingots, that you can then use for a triple Leve hand in for some cash, rather than just dumping them on a NPC vendor.
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02-29-2016, 07:17 PMNekotee
I second Roth
Doing i46 to i55 stuff (in urth gift)
You're going to have a ton fo T3 materia and a good share of T4 (and you want to have control 3 as much as control 4)
When i150 stuff can give you a T2 craftmanship...
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02-29-2016, 10:40 PMCaelesYou can always make lv50-55 nuggets/leathers/lumber and sell it on MB, did a ton of that and mats alone sold more than basic ingredients used to make them + i got ton of IV materia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
I100 isn't i150, in 20-30 sets i SBonded i never got any T2, mostly IVs and some IIIsQuote:
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03-01-2016, 12:44 AMNekotee
And where do you spirit bond i100 stuff ?
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03-01-2016, 04:29 AMkonageYou can just quick synth lvl 55 materials and resell for small profits while sbingQuote:
Originally Posted by Nekotee
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03-01-2016, 04:33 AMFoxyAreku
You have to do 2 star crafting to achieve 3 star status?
Who would have thought? >.>
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03-01-2016, 04:38 AMSnugglesD
What did you do with all of your class quest materia?
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03-01-2016, 04:47 AMJpec07
So the gearing progression from when you hit 60 fresh on your first specialist, assuming little to no Gil to spend on the MB, goes Blue Scrip Gear => 180 Red Scrip Gear => (over)Melded 170HQ 2* Craft Gear?
Feels kind of contrived and backwards, especially when 170HQ are specialist-only recipes, and so force people to pick specific classes to be specialist to make the gear for the others (LTW, WVR, and GSM seem to have a pretty unfair advantage in this arena, since unless I'm mistaken, they make most of the Specialist gear). Only way to make this progression make sense would be to swap iLevels of Red Scrip gear, forbid overmelding of 170HQ gear, or make it so each class could craft their own 2* specialist gear. -
03-01-2016, 05:20 AMFoxyArekuWanna stop you there, blue scrip gear is bad for anything but glamour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpec07
It's 150 gear>170 class specific gear OR 180 gear (your choice, latter takes more time)>getting 170 accessories and melding them>3 star crafter.
Also this is wrong. I made all my 170 accessories and my weaver offhand in 3.1 and my carpenter isn't a specialist (AND it has poor gear that barely meets minimum).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpec07
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03-01-2016, 06:27 AMSnugglesDSpecialist requirements were removed with 3.2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpec07
And the gear progression goes 150HQ->150HQ melded->170HQ.
Red scrip gear is a waste of time and isn't needed. You get 32 t4 materia for class quests and t3 are fairly cheap. -
03-01-2016, 08:36 AMRoth_Trailfinder
2 star crafting gear was never specialist-only. The initial only specialist-only recipes prior to the patch were some furnishing stuff, and the i210 relic bits.
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03-01-2016, 10:35 AMOoglieBooglie
The skypirate stuff was specialist only until 3.2, but not any crafting gear.
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03-01-2016, 12:40 PMCaitlinzuluThe specialist requirements for relic and anything else before patch 3.2 where removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnugglesD
Patch 3.2 added a whole new array of specialist only recipies in the mastercraft IV books though, mainly all the ilvl 220 eikon gear, and the relica allagan/high allagan items which are crazy hard to craft stats wise.