Movement Problem: DualShock 4 on PC vs. PS4?

I understand this is a very niche problem, so hopefully others know what I'm talking about! I recently switched to playing on PC from having played on PS4 for over a year. I'm using a DualShock 4 on PC with the DS4Windows wrapper, but I've noticed a subtle difference between playing on PS4 and PC.

Specifically, on PS4, it's easy to run forward in a straight line. If you push the left stick directly forward, or even slightly off-forward, you'll run perfectly straight. When you do, moving the right stick turns your character left and right. However, if you deviate and run at a diagonal angle or in any other direction but straight forward, the right stick simply rotates the camera.

There are two differences on PC. First, it's very difficult to run in a straight line--my character either runs slight left, or slightly right, zig-zagging slightly between them. Also, perhaps because running straight is so difficult, the right stick never turns my character, only the viewing angle. I really like the PS4's method of "right stick turns character while you're running straight," but "right stick turns camera in any other circumstance."

Am I crazy? Is there something here that I can emulate on PC? A setting I missed? On PS4, I play Legacy mode, but on PC, the same Legacy mode just feels a little different, and not in a good way.

I know on WoW, the best way to emulate that was using the 'w' button to run and then holding down right-click to turn (by moving the camera). I only play FFXIV on ps4 currently though, so I don't know how different the PC controls are to WoW's.

edit: I realise this is even less helpful if you are using a controller on the PC as well. I'm sorry I wasn't of any use. But it sounds like its an issue with DS4windows so it may be better to look on help forums about the program instead.

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Originally Posted by Meraii

edit: I realise this is even less helpful if you are using a controller on the PC as well. I'm sorry I wasn't of any use.

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Thanks for responding! You've actually given me an idea: I could try mapping "Left Stick Forward" to the "W" key on PC to force a straight-line run. I'm not sure how that would affect other directions, or how much of the sticks circumference counts as "Forward," but it's worth seeing what happens.

As a side note, you're lucky you can run in straight lines with your controller, I seem to wobble all over the places, but I'm aware that's because my thumb keeps shaking. I often find myself thinking about hooking up a keyboard instead so I have the old WASD fallback.

I play on PC but I use a wired afterglow controller that's compatible with a ps3. I haven't tried with a ps4 controller and had no idea it caused characters to run oddly. That's unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by Ragology

I play on PC but I use a wired afterglow controller that's compatible with a ps3. I haven't tried with a ps4 controller and had no idea it caused characters to run oddly. That's unfortunate.

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I don't know if you're able to confirm at this moment, but when you push forward with your Afterglow, do you run straight without much difficulty? And does the character turn when you use the right stick, or just the camera?

Sorry, last post, but I was reading up on DS4Windows and it seems some people having be having problems with the controllers spinning out of control/not doing what they should if other controllers are plugged in/if you have a dodgy bluetooth dongle . Other people are claiming that the J2K version of the program works a lot better.

I'll stop rambling on in an attempt to be helpful when I don't actually know anyhing now. :P

It's a deadzones issue, you likely can change the deadzones in your DS4 drivers or if they do no allow you the game does under analogue sensivity, raise from 0 to 10 and raise slowly and see how it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by BrielleBeaudonet

I don't know if you're able to confirm at this moment, but when you push forward with your Afterglow, do you run straight without much difficulty? And does the character turn when you use the right stick, or just the camera?

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I run perfectly straight with ease and yes, turning the camera will also make my character turn. Seems to work on both standard and legacy type movement.

This is what my controller looks like, color too. I use afterglow since the D pad placement makes it easy to reach over and press buttons with my right thumb.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SR160,160_.jpg

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Originally Posted by Meraii

I'll stop rambling on in an attempt to be helpful when I don't actually know anyhing now. :P

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Nah, that's fine, don't worry about it :) I don't think it's a DS4Windows, issue. I play other games (The Witcher, GTA V) where the analog input is handled fine. That makes me thinking it's something in the settings of FFXIV, or just a hard-coded difference between the way the PS4 and PC versions "interpret" the DualShock 4 controller.

Windows 8/10 can recognize the DS4 controller without any additional software. Just pair it like you would any normal bluetooth device. That's how I use it on PC, and I don't experience any of the issues you've stated.

Originally, I had to modify a file to manually map the buttons in FFXIV, but I think a recent FFXIV patch fully supported the PS4 controller for PC.

During 3.1, i think, the devs added DS4 support to the PC client (before that the buttons config was a chaos and was not possible to change ingame).
Just plug&play, no 3rd party pogramms/drivers needed

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Originally Posted by Geula

It's a deadzones issue, you likely can change the deadzones in your DS4 drivers or if they do no allow you the game does under analogue sensivity, raise from 0 to 10 and raise slowly and see how it works out for you.

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I can change my deadzones in DS4Windows. Will that broaden the "window" in which you can run straight before turning slightly left or right?

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Originally Posted by Ragology

I run perfectly straight with ease and yes, turning the camera will also make my character turn. Seems to work on both standard and legacy type movement.

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Wow, very interesting. So it does seem to be an issue with how the game is interpreting my DualShock 4. From what you say about the in-game settings, this seems more likely to be an issue with my DS4Windows. I'll have to play with the configuration some more.

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Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear

Windows 8/10 can recognize the DS4 controller without any additional software. Just pair it like you would any normal bluetooth device. That's how I use it on PC, and I don't experience any of the issues you've stated.

Originally, I had to modify a file to manually map the buttons in FFXIV, but I think a recent FFXIV patch fully supported the PS4 controller for PC.

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Originally Posted by Felis

During 3.1, i think, the devs added DS4 support to the PC client (before that the buttons config was a chaos and was not possible to change ingame).
Just plug&play, no 3rd party pogramms/drivers needed

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Thanks for these responses, all. I'm at work now, but I will try disabling DS4Windows before I enter the game tonight.

I just wanted to update this thread with some discoveries.

It is *technically* possible to run perfectly straight on a DualShock 4, but the "window" in which this is possible is very small. I think I just hadn't noticed it before. Another way to say it would be that the DualShock 4 analog stick is *hyper*sensitive to any movement when the analog stick is at full tilt, so what you get is slight deviations to the left or right while running.

I'm currently looking at ways to lower this sensitivity. I see that the program "Xpadder" has "diagonal windows" you can adjust, which seems to widen or narrow the 8-way segments around your analog stick. I'm going to give this a shot for more closely emulating the larger "diagonal window" that seems baked into the PS4 version.