[Beastribe/FATE] Please make it pop

Correct me, previously Yoshi said they will adjust their re-pop timer.

But.. I read from the patch note it is more likely the time allowed for completion of these FATEs are reducing from 15 to 10 mins

Weird...

p.s. Currently, waiting on the "Quenching the Flame" for almost 30mins now...

I waited on that fate for almost an hour today, I feel your pain

32 mins waiting...
One thing annoyed me...

Yoshi wants to make the game casual friendly, but they never fixed what are not. half-done...
They want to make sure RAID group happy, again, half-done...

Couldnt them just focus to finish one job before next up?

As suggested before, all Beastribe FATE could have been done with "Destination" set at those location, whoever has the quest activated, can trigger the FATE by clicking it.
They have done this before on the FF11 event. Why can't they make this happen?

Such many excuses...to cover another...

Or maybe...it just glitched out? Someone in my FC got one of the fates for Sahagin beast tribe and they killed it and it instantly respawned maybe 30 seconds after they did it, I wouldn't be so quick to judge is all lol

i hope it's glitch that they will fix it soon.

I personally experienced the Sahagin one, pop instantly after I killed it.
And the Camp Outlook one, 2 fate popped alternatively.

However, Boar in East Shroud and South Thanalan are not... waited long time to get it done.

Again... done half and half remained... May be it's their working culture. -.-;

I'm pretty sure this is due to the fact that barely anyone actually does FATEs in those zones anymore (outside of spawning Nuny in ST, lol), so a lot of the time, there are too many active FATEs just sitting around waiting to fail, preventing more from spawning, since I'm pretty sure there's a maximum of active FATEs for each zone.


Instead of sitting around waiting for that one FATE, it often helps to clear FATEs in the immediate vicinity of the one you want. Even then - as far as I understand it, at least - the FATE repop times are minimum respawn timers, meaning that the FATE can repop after this time has past since it last spawned. That doesn't mean the FATE will immediately spawn after the repop time is over. This is basically how the hunt respawn timers work so it wouldn't surprise me if FATEs worked similarly.

That doesnt explained the Sahagin one.
Sahagin Areas are having more fates than any other places.

Western LN - Low level + Mid level FATEs.

Is there any answer from Squarenix about this?

I would like to know, so that I can decide to ditch the FATE quest, whenever if offers.
Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Chichicha

Is there any answer from Squarenix about this?

I would like to know, so that I can decide to ditch the FATE quest, whenever if offers.
Thank you!

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I always ditched the FATE quest. Well, I accepted it first but after I complete the other quests and if this FATE still doesn't pop, I will ditch it, and use the quota on Vanu/Gnat quests instead.

If someone starts a quest requiring a fate the Quest NPC should give you a item. Use this item to insta start your fate.

All the beast tribe fates need to lowered to a 10 min respawn timer. This 30 min+ crap has got to go.

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Originally Posted by OmegaStrongtan

If someone starts a quest requiring a fate the Quest NPC should give you a item. Use this item to insta start your fate.

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It's more or less like the idea.
I happened when they used this system, for the FFXI crossover event.
But now they seems to be too lazy to correct this... I don't see any response from SE for this...
Like Neri said, quest received for FATE just cancelled and forget about it.

It doesn't seem that SE care much about this...

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Originally Posted by Derio

All the beast tribe fates need to lowered to a 10 min respawn timer. This 30 min+ crap has got to go.

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As others have said its not the respawn timers preventing/slowing the FATEs from spawning, but the zones/sub-zones active FATE limits (FATE trigger NPCs as counted in this limit if you are trying to say nothing was up).

Some zones have an easier time hitting their caps than others. South Than is one of the largest Zones outside of HW and it has a very large number of FATEs that can pop in it.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

As others have said its not the respawn timers preventing/slowing the FATEs from spawning, but the zones/sub-zones active FATE limits (FATE trigger NPCs as counted in this limit if you are trying to say nothing was up).

Some zones have an easier time hitting their caps than others. South Than is one of the largest Zones outside of HW and it has a very large number of FATEs that can pop in it.

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This doesn't make sense.
Western La N - this is one of the large zone with many FATEs popping. The beastribe quest FATE for this zone is basically repopped very often, some time immediately one of another.
Giving that Zone Area is not a good reason.

What if they reduced the FATE limit quotas by say 1 or 2 FATEs, so as to allow those who do have FATE quests (this includes the CT quest series too, and any others that involve FATEs) to be able to force-pop the FATE. That way, the old limits are still adhered to, but you can still do the quest FATEs?

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Originally Posted by Chichicha

This doesn't make sense.
Western La N - this is one of the large zone with many FATEs popping. The beastribe quest FATE for this zone is basically repopped very often, some time immediately one of another.
Giving that Zone Area is not a good reason.

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West La Noscea has 24 FATEs (2 are 2 stage FATE chains meaning that only 22 spawn) in it. South Than has 29 FATES (2 of which are 2 stage FATE chains meaning 27 spawn). 5 less FATEs means less chance of the FATE limit being hit in West La Noscea.

It also doesn’t really help that people are specifically waiting for certain FATE’s to pop, for instance the “Quenching the Flame” FATE. Those FATE’s will be completed under 2 minutes most of the time and it takes more than 2 minutes to walk from either Aetheryte camp as well as the Amal’jaa Beastmen camp to get to that FATE.

Due to that, you don’t want to stray too far away from that FATE in order to complete the other FATE’s in the area, because chances are high that someone else completes the FATE while you are desperately trying to make it there in time.

It does help to chime in on the FATE whenever it pops, even when you don’t have the daily quest at that time. You will still get the Necklace you need for the quest and you can stack those as well. If you have the item sitting in your inventory when you pick up the quest, you can immediately turn it in.

That’s why i try to keep around 2 to 5 of those FATE drops in my inventory, just in case i get that daily quest and the FATE’s not up at that specific moment.

Right now, i’ve only seen 2 FATE’s that are suffering from this problem, namely the “Boar Wars” in East Shroud and “Quenching the Flame” in South Thanalan. I still have to rank up the Kobolds, so i’m not sure if there are any FATE’s there with the same respawn timers.

But, at least the FATE’s in Western La Noscea appear to pop every few minutes on Sargatanas. So, i had times where i completed the “Watch Your Tongue” FATE, walked to the Beastmen camp to get the quest, saw the same FATE pop again, Completed it again and saw it pop again while i was working on the daily quests.

That was 3 times in a time span of 15 minutes. So, yeah, i wish other FATE’s related to the Beastmen quests would respawn with that kind of interval as well (Or make them pop-able like others in this thread mentioned).

Although, as far as i can tell, the FFXIV team hasn’t used any FATE’s with the 2 new Beastmen Tribes (the Vanu and the Onemind).

force fate spawn is all i ask , let me get a item from this quests to pop the fate , go the zone click on destination and fate pops...once u finish it (Even if u didnt pop it) u lose the key item , isnt exploitable at all since u need the quest (1 /day ) and if u participate u lose the item too so u can have 20 players pop the fate over and over.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

West La Noscea has 24 FATEs (2 are 2 stage FATE chains meaning that only 22 spawn) in it. South Than has 29 FATES (2 of which are 2 stage FATE chains meaning 27 spawn). 5 less FATEs means less chance of the FATE limit being hit in West La Noscea.

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It doesn't mean anything.
Are you telling us that all 24 FATEs / 29 FATES show up on our MAP at once?

All we asked here is make the Beastribe FATE a triggered type, not the auto-repop type.


Perhaps, some of the Quest related, for example - Crystal Tower required FATE, make it Triggered also.
It almost 24/7 showing there, while nobody actually needed except Newbies.

Again and again and again, All we asked here is to make the Beastribe FATE as triggered type, NOT the auto-timer-repop type.

I sure hope who ever thought this was a brilliant idea lost their job because this has to be the most ridiculous mechanic in a game I've experienced. The last thing you want are players just sitting around giving them time to reflect on the decisions they've made, and if this is how they want to spent their time. There is no valid reason that a player should be sitting around for an hour waiting on something to spawn. Its a waste of money and time.

I agree that the beast tribe FATEs are annoying, but you can force them to pop by completing other FATEs linked to them. This really only applies to the Sylphs and Amalja, since the other two thankfully pop frequently.

I know that to force pop "What a Boar" you should complete "Everythings Better" and "Breaking Dawn". I've done this a dozen times after I read up on the connected FATE, works like a charm.

For "Quenching the Flame" I know you need to complete "Heroes of the 2nd". I'm unsure if you need another FATE or not though.
EDIT: It seems that "Taken" is likely the third FATE you need, as it also is 10 minutes long.

Its not a solution, but it helps pops the FATE that you need.

The FATE beast tribe quests should just be REMOVED ENTIRELY. No complicated spawn clocks, no special trigger items, etc. These are band-aids on the main underlying issue, which is that when you are asking players to do -daily- quests, expecting players to stand around camping FATEs is preposterous.

The end.