Aetherial sands

Hello all,

I have a question about Aetherial sands. How the heck do you get those ? I mean I have a skill that technically allows me to do so on collectible from what it says but ..it never works or I miss something .

Can someone tell me how that works please ?

thank you so much for all the help

Which sands are you trying to get dusk, dawn, or land/leaf.sea? Advice changes a little for each.

But for aiming for the top tier (land/leaf/sea) which often still yield dawn instead I do.

1. Go to the ephemeral node
2. Make sure collectible is on
3. If neither hidden item is there, just meth, meth, meth collect no GP used. Respawn node
4. If a hidden item: I.imgur.com/r20AcgT.png

omg..this is the first time I see this..FINALLY I can do something about this stuff. Thank you soo much !! !

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Originally Posted by Astrelle_hyperion

3. If neither hidden item is there, just meth, meth, meth collect no GP used.

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I use meth once then collect 3x. Instead of getting ~20 crystals and ~20 clusters, you end up with ~60 crystals. There's also zero chance of getting that worthless dusk sand.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I use meth once then collect 3x. Instead of getting ~20 crystals and ~20 clusters, you end up with ~60 crystals. There's also zero chance of getting that worthless dusk sand.

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Dusk sand has a few uses. I mean, I still sell it for a good price so it must, right?

Dusk is under 1k each on my server, and I got about 5 for every dawn when I gathered your way. A pile of crystals is worth about as much, and saves me the hassle of the MB.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

Dusk is under 1k each on my server, and I got about 5 for every dawn when I gathered your way. A pile of crystals is worth about as much, and saves me the hassle of the MB.

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i suppose. i'm all out of room for crystals though...what I want is a way to get shards.
Shard farming kills me on the inside.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Shard farming kills me on the inside.

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Right there with you^^^ I tend to send my retainers out because I just can't pull myself to farm shards with my game time xD. This and carbonized matter are my debate points as to why we need gillseller bots. I wont buy your gil, but thank you for selling cheap shards on my MB

I use this link whenever I forget the exact rotations for specific sands (usually dusk and dawnborne)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest.../blog/2380815/

A pretty picture one someone posted a while back: http://i.imgur.com/r20AcgT.png

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Right there with you^^^ I tend to send my retainers out because I just can't pull myself to farm shards with my game time xD. This and carbonized matter are my debate points as to why we need gillseller bots. I wont buy your gil, but thank you for selling cheap shards on my MB

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I've never understood why we couldn't have a conversion skill: x number of shards -> y number of crystals -> z number of clusters and back the other way

I for one would love the ability to smash, say, 10 Crystals down into 20 or 30 Shards. Or 5 Clusters down into 10 Crystals.

I am fine, though, with no ability to fuse them together into higher level items.

Yes - would be sooo helpful to be able to reduce crystals/shards. Maybe a 1 crystal - 10 shards and 1 cluster - 10 crystals - 100 shards.

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Originally Posted by ruskie

Yes - would be sooo helpful to be able to reduce crystals/shards. Maybe a 1 crystal - 10 shards and 1 cluster - 10 crystals - 100 shards.

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Way too high conversion rate. Would rather see more like 1 cluster > 3-5 crystal > 5-10. Cause really 100 shards for 1 cluster? Do 3 2/8 to get clusters and crystals = no need to get more shards for 5 months.

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Originally Posted by AniCelestine

Way too high conversion rate. Would rather see more like 1 cluster > 3-5 crystal > 5-10. Cause really 100 shards for 1 cluster? Do 3 2/8 to get clusters and crystals = no need to get more shards for 5 months.

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Well I expected some rng in that conversion rate but yeah that sounds more reasonable - and tbh you still won't need to get more shards for half a year at that rate hehe but that's a good thing imho!

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

i suppose. i'm all out of room for crystals though...what I want is a way to get shards.
Shard farming kills me on the inside.

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Shards don't bother me. I just buy them off the MB. Laziness FTW! It's freakin' crystals that get me. Certain, specific crystals, that is. I'm rolling in the fire crystals. I literally almost never use them yet it seems like most of the mining eph's give only fire crystals. I have thousands. Wind and Water crystals are the bane of my existence. And trying to farm them? Oh lord, just kill me.

Check out this guide for Landborne/Leafborne Aethersand farming: http://home.eyesonff.com/showthread....ectables-Guide

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Originally Posted by Astrelle_hyperion

But for aiming for the top tier (land/leaf/sea) which often still yield dawn instead I do.

1. Go to the ephemeral node
2. Make sure collectible is on
3. If neither hidden item is there, just meth, meth, meth collect no GP used. Respawn node
4. If a hidden item: I.imgur.com/r20AcgT.png

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Hang on, if meth is based on your overall perception score...and all you do is meth and you get dawnborne or the exclusive items? What's your perception score? Lol it must be WAY higher than mine. I still have to use Utmost Caution and Single Mind to get anything.

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Originally Posted by Unittj

Hang on, if meth is based on your overall perception score...and all you do is meth and you get dawnborne or the exclusive items? What's your perception score? Lol it must be WAY higher than mine. I still have to use Utmost Caution and Single Mind to get anything.

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Meth-meth-meth gets you crystals and possibly clusters, which many consider valuable enough to be worth bothering to collect.

That said, I'm usually after landborn/leafborn. so if I don't see at least the 97% rare item (and usually if I don't see the 95% item) I just close the ephermeral node, go open/close two other nodes to respawn the ephermeral node, and try again until the 95% (or 97% if time is running out) shows up. You do not have to mine the ephemeral to respawn it.

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Originally Posted by Unittj

Hang on, if meth is based on your overall perception score...and all you do is meth and you get dawnborne or the exclusive items? What's your perception score? Lol it must be WAY higher than mine. I still have to use Utmost Caution and Single Mind to get anything.

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No, he does not get dawnborne from methx3. That's just what he does for the level 56 item, which yields crystals, clusters, and possibly duskborne. I don't think it's worth it though. I'd rather just Methx1 and collect 3. Gives more crystals, but no clusters or duskborne. Or you can just skip it completely if you're only aiming for the good stuff.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Dusk sand has a few uses. I mean, I still sell it for a good price so it must, right?

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it pretty worthless on balmung, sells for like 100 gil.

Just question, is the ice and water Crystal/cluster from fishing ephemeral?

Also since cluster and Crystal is so easy to stack, I hope there's something to do to easily stack the shard...

Yes, Aetherial Reduction on the applicable fishing collectibles gets you Ice and Water Crystal/Cluster, depending on what it is you are reducing.

Sadly though, there is no corresponding means of acquiring Shards. Send your retainers out for em, you can get 30 every 40+ minutes at a high enough level.

Duskborne Aethersand is used in all one-star foods, including popular edibles like Creme Brulee and Steamed Staff. It's also used to make Draconian and Max-stat potions - and given how Alchemists have been wailing for increased potion yields, it's evident that a lot of people are making these items (and wish they could make more at once).

Yeah, there's a market for Duskborne Aethersand, on most servers, anyway. On servers where the stuff sells cheap, I dunno, maybe the raiding scene isn't as popular?