New races in FF14

Hi all,

Was thinking about this for some time and brainstorming for myself what could be possible for the next expansion. This is what i came up with.

Burmecians (Freya ff9)
http://www.eternalrain.org/images/Ea...an_Dragoon.jpg

So what i like about this race is that its quite different that what we have already. All races have a human like face in ff14 but this one clearly doesn't. Burmecians can easily fit in as tanks, casters or dps classes without it looking weird.

Since this expansion has a lot of content in colder area's i was hoping the next expansion might have some warmer environments, with that Burmecians can easily be put in.

Next one Ronso (kimahri ff10)

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...ez01/Ronso.jpg

Once again a lot different then what we currently have in the game. Although i'm stil hoping next expansion wil have warmer area's like big desserts then cold area's i'm stil hoping something like the Ronso will be available to us.

As you can see in the picture they can easily fit in as tanks and melee dps. Dont see them as a caster class that much (maybe a older Ronso).


I was hoping some other people might come up with some races that might be interesting in the game.
Doesnt have to be a race that was shown to us in the Final Fantasy franchise but please something that makes sense, so no Qu race (would be verry funny though).

I'm not sure if they can add races with modified feet because of armor restrictions. (unless a current race has modified feet that I haven't noticed yet)

If I got a penny for every 'new race' thread I'd be rich

I'm of a similar opinion to you. Anything not completely humanoid would be welcome by me. For example, this was what Au Ra could have been from the official art of FFXIV:

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...f/cfe35148.jpg

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_24_57.jpg

http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_23_56.jpg

And I would have loved all of the versions of it so much more! The reason why they chose humanoid again is because they tried to appeal to the looks that community would most likely like. As most of the community liked catgirls, they decided to go for a race that would look pretty and appealing again. However when all your game has is pretty races it gets boring.

And yes, animalistic races if not humanoid end up underplayed. However the way that I see it, it still brings the much needed variety into the game. Further down are examples from other MMOs that SE could choose to copy:

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/...arrior_006.jpg
GW2 Charr

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/gall...c37012ac3d.jpg
World of Warcraft Pandarens

http://www.worldofwconline.com/galle...ite/Tauren.jpg
World of Warcraft Tauren

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...pori_m_h20.jpg
Tera Popori

And why am I saying copy? There are plenty of FF examples above me that SE could use... I guess my point is... I would love a more animalistic race in design.

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Originally Posted by mirta000

http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_23_56.jpg

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*chants* WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! :D


or burmician :3

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Originally Posted by Synrin

If I got a penny for every 'new race' thread I'd be rich

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This.

I'd personally prefer expanded options for what we already have.

I'd love a more beast-like race, but Au'Ra was proof that Square-Enix is only interested in making sexy cosplay races only.

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Originally Posted by mirta000

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/galler...pori_m_h20.jpg

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http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/e7/e726e...0ba7e2b5b6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Veerne

I'd love a more beast-like race, but Au'Ra was proof that Square-Enix is only interested in making sexy cosplay races only.

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I'd rather have those than Tauren from WoW.... Or werewolves that look like sewer rats.
But what I would most rather have is more options for existing races, as Cyril said.

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

*chants* WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! WOLF MAN RACE! :D


or burmician :3

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I would love there to be a wolf or dog race too. Especially cause you know they'd have like a little NPC miqote girl being chased by a little NPC wolf boy in ildyshire and she'd totally claw up his face if he finally caught her.... lol... The NPC possibilities are endless.

Cats Race vs. Dogs Race pls...

I do find it odd how we are basically resorted to always being "Hot" or "cute" you really have to try to make yourself look ugly in this game. The original concept art for Aura, I love it and if they had turned out like that I probably would have used my Fantasia and switched instantly. I am not opposed to new races but if we do, I want something with more beast qualities rather than the anime animal ears and tail kinda thing.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

I would love there to be a wolf or dog race too. Especially cause you know they'd have like a little NPC miqote girl being chased by a little NPC wolf boy in ildyshire and she'd totally claw up his face if he finally caught her.... lol... The NPC possibilities are endless.

Cats Race vs. Dogs Race pls...

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But we already have a Doge Race

Hellsguard
http://img15.deviantart.net/819b/i/2...ss-d7ms93l.png

Sea Wolf
http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/c...lf-closeup.jpg

Bangaa
Seeq
Moogle (Ivalice Varient)
Goblin

I'd be happy with those. Especially Seeq

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Originally Posted by Eolierz

So what i like about this race is that its quite different that what we have already. All races have a human like face in ff14 but this one clearly doesn't. Burmecians can easily fit in as tanks, casters or dps classes without it looking weird.

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Sorry, but we are unlikely to see playable races with bestial muzzled faces or non-humanoid feet for one reason: armor models. Currently all races use slightly modified versions of the same head gear models. Any race with an extended muzzle or non-human feet would necessitate creation of unique helm and/or foot gear models.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Sorry, but we are unlikely to see playable races with bestial muzzled faces or non-humanoid feet for one reason: armor models. Currently all races use slightly modified versions of the same head gear models. Any race with an extended muzzle or non-human feet would necessitate creation of unique helm and/or foot gear models.

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Yup, this is exactly why.
Back in 1.0, all races had uniquely modeled armour. Miqo'te always had a proper slot of their tails. Heck the Heavy Darklight even provided plat armour around the tail! I really miss that. Roegadyn armour didn't look stretched out, and Lalafell still had detail you could make out. They were each custom fit to the race.
But in the transition to 2.0 they made a heavy decision in favour of increasing the speed in which they could produce more unique looking armour, is that all the armour needs to be able to fit all the races with a simple scaling. So other than extremely minor things in regards to tails (it's laughable now), all the models are pretty much the same, just scaled to fit your character.

So no high heeled variants for animal legs, no muzzles for snouts. It'd be great to have a beast-like race, but unless they have hyur-like silhouettes, it'd go against everything they changed to streamline the game.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Sorry, but we are unlikely to see playable races with bestial muzzled faces or non-humanoid feet for one reason: armor models. Currently all races use slightly modified versions of the same head gear models. Any race with an extended muzzle or non-human feet would necessitate creation of unique helm and/or foot gear models.

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http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/umadori07...f/cfe35148.jpg

this is very beast like. However I'd wager current helms would still work on him.

I'd prefer they focus on the existing races, more diversity means less options overall.

You miss his point, Mirta. Plus, that concept was scrapped due to the very reason Ultimatecalibur (and Canadane) has brought up - they can't do such a race due to the limited armor system in use.

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Originally Posted by BlatantPyre

You miss his point, Mirta. Plus, that concept was scrapped due to the very reason Ultimatecalibur (and Canadane) has brought up - they can't do such a race due to the limited armor system in use.

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look at the body and length of the face, it WOULD work with the current armour. They scrapped it because they wanted another popular race and they wanted to not waste resources on something that would have questionable popularity, like Roegadyn and Elezen did. Meaning if they would relaunch again, everything would be cute and nothing would be out of proportion >_<

I would like more options too, however if we're stuck with only humanoids that look like humans cosplaying races that would make me sad.

i dont care what race is next aslong as it isnt viera...

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Originally Posted by mirta000

I would like more options too, however if we're stuck with only humanoids that look like humans cosplaying races that would make me sad.

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Exactly what i was thinking! This game has a lot to offer the only thing thats lacking in a big way are the race options and the way you can customize them. Would like to see more effort done by SE on these things in future patches and expansions.

The tauren pic is setting off my Avast. You sure the link isn't malicious?

EDIT. As far as I know about tech, images are links unless you download them to your pc and upload them directly to the forum you are posting on. It's possible your virus definitions are out of date or that you don't have proper web protection. Google can certainly come up with malicious results if you don't have anything to block them. Avast says it's blocking a malicious URL every time I open the first page of this thread and the URL is that of the tauren pic.

Anyone else having this problem or is it possible that Avast is being trigger happy?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The tauren pic is setting off my Avast. You sure the link isn't malicious?

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I was just searching for examples on google. Plus I don't think that an actual image can have a virus attached to it. Especially not if its copied directly from a google search :/

Would much rather see more customization options for the existing races than new ones. I dunno, I've never been a huge fan of having a multitude of races in games. Maybe I'm just boring. :/

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Originally Posted by Eolierz

Burmecians (Freya ff9).

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Originally Posted by Eolierz

Next one Ronso (kimahri ff10)

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Going back to FFXI, I'm almost certain the Mithra/Miquote were humanized off the Ronzo just as they kind of look like a blue feline morph of RedXIII. While the Qiqrin were essentially the Burmecian equivalent. They are only missing the long tail and 4th finger. Although they might actually have a short stubby hamster like tail given the look of their pants.

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Originally Posted by mirta000

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_24_57.jpg

http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_23_56.jpg

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I cant help to notice that one looks like a sheep with that hair and horns and the lower two resembles a Dwarf and a Lunarian(??). I think they said Viera look to much like Miquote, but given the design the Wolf race. That would look too much like another Miquote if it was made to be more human looking. If they do use and keep the animal design they should at least make one look like a reference the one in that anime.

The main reason I understood for humanizing the concepts was mostly due to the armor molds. That'll take less work and data if everything could fit everyone and not have custom designs for multiple races. That may also be why there are not to many race only clothing styles in the game either. Otherwise I'd like to see playable race styles like Ronzo, Viera, Burmecians, even the wolf man or that dwarf looking one in the concepts. So far the closest thing to a less human looking race may as well be a remix of the Hummingway. As they can share Lalafell bodies and made to look like a cross between Moogles and Viera from tactics (and 12?) and less like a Lalafell.

Tbh i be happy with races from ivalice so it could be these

Nu Mou
Moogle
Viera

I just hope they dont make a werewolf... I would love to have a Nu Mou as a race but thats me

But to be honest i wish they make a new race entirely it adds suprise and excitement or fix up the current races and add more custome to them

Just stay away from Canine, feline, Rodents and make somethink awsome :D

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I'd prefer they focus on the existing races, more diversity means less options overall.

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I'd like for them to expand on current races. Add in more tribes, optional features like beards, scales, fur, etc.

Yoshida himself said he won't do Viera because they would be Miq'ote with bunny parts.
I say... (I always get torn a new one for this too...)
Why not expand Miq'ote to be more than ONLY cats. This would appease all the Viera requests, and open the gates for other human-animal races. Ronso could even be possible this way.

I once suggested that a tribe or option to put a Tail of Roegadyn (For the Galka lovers. They are rehashed Galka anyways...)

But nope. Folks want a copy and pasted race with slightly altered features. (Aura)
We don't add to/expand races.
We get the same thing but with a different coat of paint.

(Yes I'm bitter over being burned at the stake for suggesting something like this.)

I think we actually *do* want more sophisticated races. We are probably running into hardware limitations though.

I mean, this game does run on ps3s still right? For recent patches, didn't they require ps3 and ps4(maybe it was just ps3) owners to upgrade their available hard drive space to a very large amount? Even if they could do a very different looking race, it would require accommodating a skeletal structure that wasn't humanlike for performing actions and wearing armor. Certainly it could be done, but it's going to take up even more of their limited space when most of the models use pretty much the exact template as it is. Even lalafells pretty much have the same structure for actions as I understand... That's how we got the Hildy dance, it was a lalafell dance that they ended up trying out on a hyur and it was freaking hilarious to see it performed on the larger less rotund model...

On topic: A new race is best paired with an expansion that makes sense to introduce a new race. Beastly races are great, but as said above, one model system for all makes for a more limited scope of racial design. Not saying there aren't other ways to make a race look beastly though.

As of now, I would rather they add more options to customize the current races.

Off-topic:

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Originally Posted by Reinha

The tauren pic is setting off my Avast. You sure the link isn't malicious?

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Avast has been going off for me as well. Red light came up for me when I saw the URL, given I have little to no trust in various WoW sites aside from BNet, MMO-C and WoWpedia.

if burmecian have been made available today i going to change from my miqo'te to burmecian right now. I want my Freya or a more animalistic race why not because right now that game regardless of beast tribe we have no ''animal-kind'' race