Relic nerf

Hello just wondering when the relic nerf might happen is it 3,2 or 3.25? And should i save my vanu tokens i have over 100, thank you

Lol with my luck, it will happen RIGHT AFTER I complete mine. XD I don't think there is a set date for this topic yet though if they plan on nerfing it at all. (I imagine so considering the many complaints there are about that grind though.)

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Originally Posted by Kaldor

Hello just wondering when the relic nerf might happen is it 3,2 or 3.25? And should i save my vanu tokens i have over 100, thank you

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Soonest I see it happening is 3.25, when the next step is released. At the same time, I doubt they'll reduce the costs of the items (staying at 18 vanu tokens, for example) and instead just reduce the number of items needed (10 of each instead of 20, for example).

As a nin my relic isnt that great stat wise but id like to get it eventually when we can change stats on it

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Originally Posted by Kaldor

As a nin my relic isnt that great stat wise but id like to get it eventually when we can change stats on it

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I am hoping for this with the BLM staff as well. Not having spell speed makes me hurt all over. XD (Still gotta have it though :P)

Well, think of it like this: They are removing law from the game. This means that the Law you have now will have to be converted (likely to 1/4th) into Esoterics. That being said, we can deduce that the relic items currently purchasable with Law will be shifted to Eso at a reduced rate, as we have seen before. With that changing, I don't foresee them merging the quest overall quite yet, as better gear will be easily obtainable just by completing Midas, trading in the new Tomestones, and with Gobdip likely coming to a Rowena near you.

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Originally Posted by Kaldor

Hello just wondering when the relic nerf might happen is it 3,2 or 3.25? And should i save my vanu tokens i have over 100, thank you

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Base on past experience, very likely the nerf will be doubled the reward for each quest,
but the cost for unidentified item will not be changed.
For example an UI still cost 13(18), but each quest gives 2 instead of 1 token. ^^;

The nerf won't come out until 3.25 at least (ergo next step or after)

And BTW vanu vanu are the worst to farm for these XD
Old ARR Tribal quest are better to get token

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But they already said that (in 3.2 I guess)
They will remove the retainer coin and leave only the Tribal item
(The other will be exchanged with the Tribal vendor)

Took them ages to nerf the ARR relic. I dont see it happening any time in 3.2. Might happen in 3.3 if you're lucky.

Well um if they will add other ways to get the token items in 3.2 i only imagine the gnath tribe having it also in their to sell list.

If gnath have it... It will be like vanu vanu
An awful ton of them for one

By the way... There will some kind of à change at 3.2

Since tomestone of law will disappear and eso will stay
And eso > law

The price of the token will be reduce (the number only) but it will be equivalent as buying it with laws
1 eso for 2 law or 1 eso for 3 law...
Hard to'predict the change...

I think it might, normally when a new tome is released the item cost of the pervious 450 weekly tomes gets reduced. Likely still have the 20 unidentified items requirement, but hopefully the 680 will be reduced to 340 or something.

Yeah but Unfortunately it's only the number which is reduce
Because usually if a donjon give like 80 law... It will then give 40 eso

So half cost but half income...

Better cap this week to have as much as possible when 3.2 come

Who cares about relic upgrade costs when the crystals from fates barely drop at all.
While some get them all after a few hrs of grinding fates I've only got 7 so far and still wonder if they exists in two zones.
If I'm lucky, perhaps I'm able to get the base relic before next expansion at this rate.

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Originally Posted by Kaldor

Hello just wondering when the relic nerf might happen is it 3,2 or 3.25? And should i save my vanu tokens i have over 100, thank you

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Not yet.
Maybe with the next tier or the tier after next tier.

Knowing SE and there ways of doing things i doubt the number of items will be lowered more than likely if any nerfs come there more likely to be a buff to drop rates in fates for crystals and then simply add more ways to aquire the items ie adding to grand company seals or exchange for pvp marks or mgp and so forth.

Best I see is a slight drop in Tome cost, from the...680 is it? to MAYBE 600 flat.

Considering it only takes 3 weeks for step 3. I doubt they will nerf it anytime soon. Expect 3.3 is when they nerf stage 3 of the intial relic.

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Originally Posted by Nekotee

Yeah but Unfortunately it's only the number which is reduce
Because usually if a donjon give like 80 law... It will then give 40 eso

So half cost but half income...

Better cap this week to have as much as possible when 3.2 come

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Everything that currently gives law will give esoterics instead so we'll be getting eso tomes in the quantities we currently receive law. It'll be the new tomestone that is scarce. Based on the conversions this should mean that the items become considerably cheaper to obtain... but I wouldn't be surprised if SE doesn't reduce the prices at all in order to avoid nerfing the stage prior to the release of the next one.

The only nerf I expect is due to law getting "kicked out" and Eso being the new Lawstones... usually resulted in lowering costs of relic items... rest to be earliest with the upcoming relic steps.

Am I the only one that sees the absurdity in waiting on a nerf to do relic? If you too lazy or don't have enough time to play the game to get past step 3.... you think nerfing it so you can be stuck on step 4 is going to help you somehow? By the time a step gets nerfed it's irrelavant anyhow... it's just there to help people get to the last 2-3 steps. if you dont want to grind the relic then just get one of the other weapons. It's really not that serious.

Relic just came out and some are calling for nerfs already. Personally i wish SE wouldn't nerf things like this.

I don't understand why people cry for the "grind" of step 3 while you can progress on it without "changing" your daily habit...
You get tomes from doing various content, you do daily treasure map, you can do some hunting, you can still do some beastmeb quest, Alexander...
You have choice, a lot of it.

Hell, i'm at half my second relic without doing any Alexander nor farming for something specific. The only thing i've change from my daily routines is that I try to do some "old" beastmen tribe quest for token (30-40 min max a day) I still do the Vanu Vanu quest as I need the XP for the 3 jobs I don't have at 60.

I do play 2-3 hour a day on week days, and maybe 5-6h a day on week end.
The thing is, you have to do your dailies to take advantage of the daily bonus (daily roulette token bonus, daily maps, daily hunt, daily beast tribe quest etc)

I did have 2 Zeta to start with, that helped a lot for the first step though (I did 2 ATMA before the first nerf, so I had the right to skip it !!).

But Honestly, the grind to get an old relic to Zeta was awfully worth than this one ! Each step were worth timewise (Atma and Nexus was the worst imho) And you had to use the class/jobs with the relic equiped ! (for most step : atma fate drop, animus book, nexus light, zodiac dungeon hell, zeta light)

100% behind shurifon
There is no need for à nerf everything can be achieve with TIME !!!

And yet people forgot that yoshida himself said that the relic was only to reward people that spend time on it.
I did achieve my second anima weapon yesterday
Without being a brainless zombie Hunting EVERY single target or losing sanity in Alexander NM

Only daily roulette
Daily ARR beast tribe quest (which are the best)
And collecting my wyvern/dragon map each day
+some little S rank whe' i got there on time

It's an easier step than the fate farm because there is no rng

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@Shurifon Craft is more than life, Craft is power ! °∆°

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Took them ages to nerf the ARR relic. I dont see it happening any time in 3.2. Might happen in 3.3 if you're lucky.

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My thoughts, too.

I seem to recall the nerfs taking a little longer to happen before.

I suspect we'll see at least some minor nerfs to the Anima stage in 3.25, if they continue with the idea that the stages before the "raid-level" end-stage for the weapon in the corresponding patch cycle should be easier to acquire (like they did with the i170/i200 stages).

First and foremost, as others have mentioned, the tomestone costs will probably be reduced somewhat, and we might see corresponding reductions in the number of Precision Gordian Parts required as well. Drop rates for Luminous Crytals may very well be increased, too. Toward the end of ARR, they started getting more generous with nerfs to the earlier stages so people could more easily catch up, and I think we'll see some continuation of that trend now.

I wouldn't expect significant nerfs to the Anima stage until 3.3 at the earliest, though.

If they nerf anything in 3.2, it will probably just be the crystal drop rate for the first step.

The biggest thing I would like to see nerfed is the crafted turn ins. I am not a crafter and even if I started today it would take MONTHS to get the crafters up to 60. And by then the relic would only be good for glam purposes.

On my server each set is going for almost 1 mil. I am not going to pay 4 mil for a weapon that's going to be obsolete. And yes, I could ask a FC mate to craft them for me, but I'm sure the mats needed are not cheap either.

Transfer to another server that's cheaper then transfer back?? It would be easier and cheaper to use my real money for the gil spammers!

The biggest thing I would like to see nerfed is the crafted turn ins. I am not a crafter and even if I started today it would take MONTHS to get the crafters up to 60. And by then the relic would only be good for glam purposes.

On my server each set is going for almost 1 mil. I am not going to pay 4 mil for a weapon that's going to be obsolete. And yes, I could ask a FC mate to craft them for me, but I'm sure the mats needed are not cheap either.

Transfer to another server that's cheaper then transfer back?? It would be easier and cheaper to use my real money for the gil spammers!

People be lazy, that's why nerfs happen

Doesn't need a nerf. It's not hard, jus time consuming. Unlike the original relic, this one isnt based on RNG for the most part, you can make progress fast or take your time. So no, this shouldn't be nerfed, wait for the As4 weapons to be obtainable if you're lazy.

Just a hypothesis, but more than likely neither the crafted items req or the beast tribe token reqs will be nerfed; I'm speculating the alex grind will be(probably increased on a patch cycle, from 1 drop a run to 2, 3, hard cap at 4 for xpac) and the fate farm grind will be reduced by increasing crystal drop rate, based off how they implemented the ease of grind for light and atma for 2.0-2.55.

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Originally Posted by Daenarys_Targaryen

Took them ages to nerf the ARR relic. I dont see it happening any time in 3.2. Might happen in 3.3 if you're lucky.

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Just to be clear what did they nerf in the previous ARR relic weapon? I remember they upped the Atma drops but that's all I remember..

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

Just to be clear what did they nerf in the previous ARR relic weapon? I remember they upped the Atma drops but that's all I remember..

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nerfed everything; book fates, atma drops, light for nexus and zeta, zodiac dungeon drops.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

Just to be clear what did they nerf in the previous ARR relic weapon? I remember they upped the Atma drops but that's all I remember..

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They increased the amount of light you farmed per instance, though from what I remember it still took a while.

Previous relic didn't get nerfed until closer to 3.0. You should expect the same with this one. Get grinding or let it come naturally as your tomes do.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

Everything that currently gives law will give esoterics instead so we'll be getting eso tomes in the quantities we currently receive law. It'll be the new tomestone that is scarce. Based on the conversions this should mean that the items become considerably cheaper to obtain... but I wouldn't be surprised if SE doesn't reduce the prices at all in order to avoid nerfing the stage prior to the release of the next one.

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In all the 2.x updates, where a tome got replaced, the reward of the 2nd best tome got first reduced and in the next patch increased again.

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

Just to be clear what did they nerf in the previous ARR relic weapon? I remember they upped the Atma drops but that's all I remember..

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Increased light reward, reduced the amount of enemies you have to kill for books, increased Alexandrite drops, increased dungeon keyitem droprate, reduced tome prices.

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Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade

The biggest thing I would like to see nerfed is the crafted turn ins. I am not a crafter and even if I started today it would take MONTHS to get the crafters up to 60. And by then the relic would only be good for glam purposes.

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Neeeeeh
First it doesn't take months... You need 2 weeks top to be at least 50 in the 8 crafting job
Then maybe 1 week or less to be 60 in the 3 job you want as specialiste
(Because yeah... You can only craft 3 item out of the 8 required)

Took me less than 3 week to be 50 in all DoH just by myself
Right before ixali where introduced !

Nothing is impossible and it won't eat your gils !