Please increase the max (hidden) GP for all combat and crafting classes from 400 to 1000, so our gatherers can continue to regen to full while we do other things, instead of being forced down to only 400 on class change.
Feature request: Please increase all NON-DoL classes' GP
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02-12-2016, 02:38 PMCallbackFeature request: Please increase all NON-DoL classes' GP
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02-12-2016, 04:17 PMJudah_Brandt
OK, um. Go ahead and switch over to your DoL class. I'll wait. Now unequip all of your accessories and items that give you additional GP. I'll wait. Now look what your max GP is. I'll wait. Neat math, huh? See how you have 400 maximum without anything equipped? It's all right, I'm sure you just overlooked it.
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02-12-2016, 05:26 PMruskie
What he means is that the cap for non DoL classes should be higher so that it can regen to full while we do other things instead of sitting there on a DoL class waiting on GP to regen to your gear cap. It would make it possible to always swap over to a DoL with your max GP and can start gathering instead of waiting a minute for GP to regen first... it's annoying and it would be a nice QoL.
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02-12-2016, 06:01 PMJudah_Brandt
Yeah, and you're both wrong, because the cap for both is 400. The gear that you equip on the right side adds the extra GP, it isn't inherent on the DoL class. That's like saying he should retain stats from equipmemt he isn't wearing for other classes. My level sixty miner with no accessories equipped has 400 GP. If I equip a ring that gives +25, I now have 425. I need to regen 25. Because I'm not wearing that ring when I'm a different class. Any GP over 400 is from the equipment you change into when you swap to your DoL class, there can't be a higher cap because nothing you wear on another job increases GP.
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02-12-2016, 06:11 PMruskie
They could just give DoH and DoW/DoM a hidden GP stat that is higher.
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02-12-2016, 06:15 PMJudah_Brandt
That doesn't even make sense. The entire point of the equipment is to increase the class' GP. You're saying that they should just increase it and do away with the equipment, then? I still feel like you're missing the boat on the whole thing. Think about when you switch from your Miner to your DoW or DoM job. See how you have to regenerate all that HP? It's because of all the bonus Vitality on your gear. It's that way for a reason.
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02-12-2016, 06:56 PMSmallHobbit
disagree
the currently system are fine! just be smart think ahead change gear a min before or use Cordial and you will have no problems anymore.
please don't try to interrupt a running system only because of laziness :rolleyes:
regards small hobbit =) -
02-13-2016, 12:38 AMCallbackThere's nothing to be "wrong" about when asking for a QoL buff. Right now all classes share a base GP of 400. I'm asking for non-DoLs to have their base increased to above what any geared DoL would have. That way DoLs could regen to full without needing to keep the class equipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt
They already have a hidden GP stat, 400. That's what I'm asking for. Increase it to above a geared DoL's value for non-DoL classes so that the DoL can begin full on class change if they waited long enough to regen it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruskie
How does it do away with the equipment? DoLs still need the gear to increase their max. If you change from a 60 to a lv1, notice how your HP is full? Now change back to the 60, and before the first tick you have the same value as the level 1 had. That's how stats work. When you change to a class with a lower max the rest gets lost. Having more on one class doesn't somehow devalue increasing the max on the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judah_Brandt
Right now when you change into DoL, you're going low to high. You're stuck at the low cap and need to regen the rest, but unlike HP or MP this is a stat that's heavily time-gated. I'm asking for a change where the switch to DoL is instead going from high to low. You lose any excess, and begin with a full bar, provided that you have filled up that much. -
02-14-2016, 04:07 AMShadygrove
Cordials say hello.
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02-14-2016, 07:03 AMCallbackAnd what other class in the game requires a consumable (that then goes on cooldown so you can't pop one after anyway even if your plan requires it) just to change class?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadygrove
And don't say SMN/SCH. That's its own fucked up thing. -
02-15-2016, 06:06 AMIkki_Wiki
This isn't being "lazy"
Switch from your DoW to your DoL, see your GP? it's at 400, right?
Now switch from your DoL to your DoH, see your CP? is it at 180? No, it's full
Why is it wrong for DoL to receive the same treatment? the OP is not asking for the base 400 GP to be buffed so he won't need to overmeld or equip accesories. He isn't asking for GP to fully regenerate to full either. All he is asking is for your GP to be able to naturally regenerate for more than the base 400 GP while you're in another class. So when you change to your DoL class after say, 10 minutes from the last time you used your GP, you would be at full GP instead of being at 400/6xx
DoL needs to change classes 2:30 to 3 minutes before a node just to have full GP. And using Cordials isn't an option if you want to chain 3 or more nodes with 1 to 2 hours between them (For example Chysal-Adamantite-Morel-Cuprite) -
02-15-2016, 10:12 AMRoth_Trailfinder
That CP comparison is not exactly a fair one, as CP is restored to full automatically upon changing to a DoH or upon completion of whatever you were crafting.
Still, it would be very nice if non-gathering classes had a very high GP cap that they could regenerate to. This "need" will only become more and more pronounced the more GP that people get. Right now, people are pushing over 250 more GP than the base, not counting food. Add in a few more levels of Gathering gear, and that will become 300 more than base, then 350, then 400, and so on. -
02-15-2016, 10:41 AMStouterTaruCP doesn't regenerate, it's a completely different beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ikki_Wiki