How will SE handle 1.0 players in a 2.0 world?

I would imagine that our current characters would transfer over when 2.0 is finally released. I couldn't imagine SE forcing players to start over from scratch. So how is SE going to handle an entire player base who is essentially maxed out in levels?

The current players are going to be able to skip past most of the beginning content of 2.0 and focus on end-game almost immediately. They could raise the level cap significantly, however that would put new players at a great disadvantage as they probably would never be able to catch up.

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Originally Posted by Shinrasolider

I would imagine that our current characters would transfer over when 2.0 is finally released. I couldn't imagine SE forcing players to start over from scratch. So how is SE going to handle an entire player base who is essentially maxed out in levels?

The current players are going to be able to skip past most of the beginning content of 2.0 and focus on end-game almost immediately. They could raise the level cap significantly, however that would put new players at a great disadvantage as they probably would never be able to catch up.

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1) It's already confirmed you keep everything with your character.

2) Why would we skip the beginning content of 2.0? It's all new for everyone, even the level 50's.

3) Level cap isn't in the plans, thankfully. (For now anyways.)

As fast as they have made it to level? If they keep it this way, players will have no trouble getting to max level in a week.

They could do something to trivialize the first 50 levels to get new and returning players caught up fast. Would be smart if they made the first 50 levels fast and have newer lvl cap at 2.0.

spare one class at low rank lol

I want my mount to be a throne held by 2.0 neophytes.

And a crown. Beaches love crowns.

I don't really know that leveling needs to be much faster per se. If you do it correctly you can get outrageous EXP. Leves/Behest could use more tweaking so that people can actually... you know... solo them. I don't quite know how Jobs are going to play out (if we get them the same level as the respective class or what) but it wouldn't be a bad idea to make the jobs start at lv1 and have a much steeper EXP curve. Have it so getting to 50 on a class is pretty easy but difficult to get a job to 50. Then have 2nd tier jobs that require 2 jobs to 50. (IE: DRK would be unlocked after getting WAR + BLM to 50). Probably won't be much like that but that's just my two cents.

With a huge volume of players likely to be dumped into the game at 2.0 launch I don't think leveling will be much of an issue. Right now its hard because everyone is 50 so a lower level player doesn't have much to party with but when 2/3 of the server is level 10-20 then it will be much easier. When the EXP camps are crowded by soloers, (competent) people team up together.

You can get like 40-50k/hr in partys through most the levels, maby around 20-30k/hr in the mid 20s low 30s, and close to 100k/hr in the mid-upper 40s.

Leveling atm is absurdly fast atm if anything they need to nerf it. While Soloing is alot slower... it is still easily a level a night if you spend 2-3hrs which is a very good leveling pace in a mmo with 50 levels.


As for the new and Old. New will vastly outnumber the old (if not the game has bigger problems then a balance issue with the current subcount). It will be just like NA release of XI, PS3 EU/NA launch, and Xbox launch. In each of these new members entered with a ton of capped people, and everything worked out well.

SE needs to do what they did with each of these other releases. Release new classes with them. So PS3 release = release of arcanist and musketeer. Now old people will be leveling with the new... problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

You can get like 40-50k/hr in partys through most the levels, maby around 20-30k/hr in the mid 20s low 30s, and close to 100k/hr in the mid-upper 40s.

Leveling atm is absurdly fast atm if anything they need to nerf it. While Soloing is alot slower... it is still easily a level a night if you spend 2-3hrs which is a very good leveling pace in a mmo with 50 levels.


As for the new and Old. New will vastly outnumber the old (if not the game has bigger problems then a balance issue with the current subcount). It will be just like NA release of XI, PS3 EU/NA launch, and Xbox launch. In each of these new members entered with a ton of capped people, and everything worked out well.

SE needs to do what they did with each of these other releases. Release new classes with them. So PS3 release = release of arcanist and musketeer. Now old people will be leveling with the new... problem solved.

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I am level 36 and I have yet to join a party. I have yet to see how anyone would even go about getting a party with no search tools. I see big groups of people killing stuff sometimes when doing leves, but they usually in the same linkshell.

I would argue that leveling is super slow. There is no tools for making parties and unless you have some big group of friends playing FFXIV you really have no choice but to solo. Leveling definitely isn't fine. I would love to join a party and get more then 6k an hour which i get solo from leves. My linkshell usually has nobody on it most of the time or maybe 1 or 2 people if lucky to catch someone on, so that really isn't an option to level fast.

All the people that have like a bunch of level 50 jobs probably did it with a set group or a linkshell. I find it hard that you would solo all of that. I been playing since the launch of the game and still haven't yet to get anything to 50.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I am level 36 and I have yet to join a party. I have yet to see how anyone would even go about getting a party with no search tools. I see big groups of people killing stuff sometimes when doing leves, but they usually in the same linkshell.

I would argue that leveling is super slow. There is no tools for making parties and unless you have some big group of friends playing FFXIV you really have no choice but to solo. Leveling definitely isn't fine. I would love to join a party and get more then 6k an hour which i get solo from leves. My linkshell usually has nobody on it most of the time or maybe 1 or 2 people if lucky to catch someone on, so that really isn't an option to level fast.

All the people that have like a bunch of level 50 jobs probably did it with a set group or a linkshell. I find it hard that you would solo all of that. I been playing since the launch of the game and still haven't yet to get anything to 50.

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Although a "better" LFG tool is needed (there is one just never used) getting parties is pretty simple. Go to Uldah, and /sh your Class/lvl and your looking for group. Hell create your own *usually alot faster*. If you don't know where to go, ask. Someone will give you an idea.

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Originally Posted by Kopuno

Although a "better" LFG tool is needed (there is one just never used) getting parties is pretty simple. Go to Uldah, and /sh your Class/lvl and your looking for group. Hell create your own *usually alot faster*. If you don't know where to go, ask. Someone will give you an idea.

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Obviously I wouldn't know where to go cause I never been in a party. But would the other people? How do you get people to join just keep shouting in a town? I never seen a shout in a town for a party.

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Originally Posted by Kopuno

Although a "better" LFG tool is needed (there is one just never used) getting parties is pretty simple. Go to Uldah, and /sh your Class/lvl and your looking for group. Hell create your own *usually alot faster*. If you don't know where to go, ask. Someone will give you an idea.

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Yeah this is always how I used to get my parties even in XI. I rarely know where to go myself and am not much of a leader so I always keep an eye out for people shouting for party members. D: My server is quite friendly and efficient so I haven't had an issue with many people.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I would argue that leveling is super slow. There is no tools for making parties and unless you have some big group of friends playing FFXIV you really have no choice but to solo. Leveling definitely isn't fine. I would love to join a party and get more then 6k an hour which i get solo from leves.

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How do you only get 6k an hour from solo leves?

I've been getting around 1 level per night from 44-48 doing solo leves, getting around 6k per leve with each one taking around 5 minutes, maybe 10 for a harder one. Even if the exp is a bit higher in the 40's to scale with the amount of exp I can't imagine it being THAT much higher.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I am level 36 and I have yet to join a party. I have yet to see how anyone would even go about getting a party with no search tools. I see big groups of people killing stuff sometimes when doing leves, but they usually in the same linkshell.

I would argue that leveling is super slow. There is no tools for making parties and unless you have some big group of friends playing FFXIV you really have no choice but to solo. Leveling definitely isn't fine. I would love to join a party and get more then 6k an hour which i get solo from leves. My linkshell usually has nobody on it most of the time or maybe 1 or 2 people if lucky to catch someone on (indicating you should look for more active players to play with as well), so that really isn't an option to level fast.

All the people that have like a bunch of level 50 jobs probably did it with a set group or a linkshell. I find it hard that you would solo all of that. I been playing since the launch of the game and still haven't yet to get anything to 50.

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I would have to disagree, I joined two separate parties last night, going from R43 to R46, and only had one friend with me during the second party. Based on your statement, you've never really tried to look for a party outside of your LS, which you said usually only have 1 or 2 people on if you are lucky. So your argument of leveling is super slow is somewhat biased.

I agree that the current party search tool is not as convenient as it should be, but it is no where near "no" search tools. One of my party last night, which was started by a friend of mine, we had 2 people joining the party between the time where he put up the recruit message and the time that he did his first shout. 30sec within his first shout, we had a party of 6, and it only took us 5min to get a party of 8 up and going. Although last night was faster than usual (a lot of people were trying to do the event quest, so parties filled up fast when one is being shouted), but a recruitment process for me is no longer than 30min from the moment the recruit message is up til the party is full. The norm is more like 10min or so before the party heads out.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

Obviously I wouldn't know where to go cause I never been in a party. But would the other people? How do you get people to join just keep shouting in a town? I never seen a shout in a town for a party.

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Even if you have never been in a party, this doesn't mean you shouldn't know where to go. When 1.19 first hit, most people don't know where would be a decent camp, because mob placements have been altered. I myself exhausted my 60ish remaining anima and hopped around from aetheryte to aetheryte so I can find a nice cluster of mobs, then I would start a group and head over to give it a try (with the current spawn rate, usually a cluster of 15 mobs is more than enough to sustain a fast killing party in most cases). Even without going into such extremes, you can simply pay attention to people's shout for party recruitment, and try to write down what level range the party is and where they are heading to for exp, if they don't say what they are killing, at least you will know what vicinity their party is heading to for future reference.

If you've never seen any shouts in town (which isn't completely impossible, because shouts have limited range, try staying around the chocobo area in ul'dah, that's where most people will be shouting from), you've at least seen big parties out in the wild killing mobs, inspect them and see what level range they are, then you will have yourself a camp to go to at that level range in the future. It is not that hard to find/gather these information on the internet or in-game, you just have to care enough to find them.

With your concern about players jumping to end game content there is an easy solution : by using lower end content to unlock high end just like they did with ifrit. So simple.

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Originally Posted by Aion

spare one class at low rank lol

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Lol, this. When I get back to levling, I will be sure to leave a class or two on low levels

Keep a few classes at level 1 until 2.0 hits or if new classes hit before, use those.

Yoshi has said we'll be getting summoner and Beastmaster, I'm guessing at least one of the two will come at 2.0 release to give us all the chance to experience the lowbie stuff.