masterbook 2 rotations??

This might get a little rambly haha, but bear with me! D: Okay, by sheer dumb luck I ground my way to level 60 on all crafts and gatherering classes (which I’m super proud of) but now I’m stuck on rotations. For the most part, I’m able to HQ a lot of things from lv 1 – 50 and even some of the 3.x items :/ but what’s really bugging me is the inability to do the crafts for the MB #2’s – for example, I managed to get an intricate silver brocade to 56% HQ before it botched (that’s the only one I’ve tried, really). I’ve looked online for different rotations and tips and tried a lot of things posted but nothing seems to work. I’ve tried NQ and HQ materials too.

I’m obviously doing something terribly wrong with crafting ^^; because the whole crafting rotations and cross class skills go over my head.

As it stands now, I generally use: Great strides > standard touch x whatever to get me started and wing it from there. Uh, also, without food and as a WVR I'm at: craftmanship 705, control 646, CP 384.

#ramble

yikes, with stats like those, 3-4 star Level 50 recipes should be a yawnfest even from NQ mats

(I'm not a huge crafting aficionado so my rotation could be much better but it does get the job done)

Makers Mark
comfort zone
Flawless synth (as many as it gives)
inner quiet
Steady Hand 2
Hasty touch until 20 durability
Masters mend 2
Steady hand 2
Hasty until you hit 8-9 IQ stacks
Steady hand, great strides, Byregots
should only take 2-3 careful synth 2's to finish the craft.

Use precise touch on a good if it's not at the end of a cycle and you have Steady hand up, otherwise hit tricks on it.

I'd suggest having a look at this rotation.

http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/a-step-...e-tsukino.176/

Though there are a number of rotations to get these items HQ.

The absolute basis of any rotation is starting with inner Quiet and building up stacks with the cheapest touches you have cp wise. Amount of quality you get at this step is not important. you use cp to restore durability or reduce durability loss. When you get near the end, combine great strides and Byregoth's blessing for a huge quality boost. finish off with your favorite progress skills.

main point is keep one eye on CP and the other on durabilty you have and the amount you need to finish.

A calculator can help you with trying out rotations without wasting expensive materials.
Have a look at this one
http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator

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Originally Posted by Laurima

yikes, with stats like those, 3-4 star Level 50 recipes should be a yawnfest even from NQ mats

(I'm not a huge crafting aficionado so my rotation could be much better but it does get the job done)

Makers Mark
comfort zone
Flawless synth (as many as it gives)
inner quiet
Steady Hand 2
Hasty touch until 20 durability
Masters mend 2
Steady hand 2
Hasty until you hit 8-9 IQ stacks
Steady hand, great strides, Byregots
should only take 2-3 careful synth 2's to finish the craft.

Use precise touch on a good if it's not at the end of a cycle and you have Steady hand up, otherwise hit tricks on it.

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Instead of hitting hasty till you have 8 or 9 IQ stacks which would lead you to having no durability left. You do hasty's till you have 30 to 40 durability, depending on how many Carefull synth II's you need to finish the craft.

My own rotation goes along the lines of
Comfort zone
Inner quiet
steady hand 2
Waste not
hasty touch x4
steady hand 2
hasty touch till 10 or 20 (depends on if its a 70 or 80 durability craft)
Masters mend 2
steady hand 2
hasty x2 (make shure you have 50 durability left after the hasty's)
Great strides
innovation if cp allows
Ingenueity 2
Byregoth's blessing
Carefull synth x4

I think that should finish everything up to 950 progress needing recipy's
Allways use tricks of the trade on a good condition
Use precise touch on an excelent condition.
When you get near the end 8 stacks of inner quiet or so and you get an excelent just hit byregoth's blessing without great strides. Chances of it turning up again are slim and it gives more quality then a fully "buffed" byregoth on a normal/good condition

With those stats, you can possibly just CZ, steady hand, basic touch multiple times, use tricks of trade when possible, master's mend, do it all again, final push with great strides/byregot and end up the synthesis with careful synth II.

Silver brocade is 80 durability, you certainly don't need Waste Not.

I agree with cgb completely !
Old 50 recipe are a joke if you're correctly gear and lv60

As long as you have the right cross skill you should be fine

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And please... Do not do great stride + any touch... It's a huge waste of cp
Great stride is the most efficient with a byregot skill

Caitlinzulu gave à good link
Caimie is a skilled Crafter with good advice xP

So, after trying out possible rotations on the simulator that Caitlinzulu linked AND experimenting with other things posted in here, I not only managed to get one MB2 book, but 3! xD Thanks for all the advice, guys.

grats home juice

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Originally Posted by BARDS_ARROW

for example, I managed to get an intricate silver brocade to 56% HQ before it botched (that’s the only one I’ve tried, really).

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What is your current rotation? I think, from the sound of this, that you're focused too much on the actual HQ value of what you're doing. You really should be focused on getting inner stacks up as far as you can, and then having enough CP to do the finishing moves. You can get to 100% HQ with only 15% ~ 20% HQ if your stacks of inner are high enough. It's a mind shift and feels strange at first. It's hard to see how 15% HQ or 20% HQ will turn into 100% but it does. Trust me. Strive to get your inner stacks to be 7 or more, then use GS + Inno + BBlessing.

This is why rotation guides shouldn't exist...

Right now, it’s not a solid rotation D: but it starts as

Comfort Zone
Inner Quiet
Steady hand
(depending on the durability type)
Hasty touch


If I get a good, I use Tricks of the Trade
If I get an excellent, I use precise touch.
And from there, I kind of wing it if I need to do more by using Masters Mend.

You’re right though, I sometimes have trouble maintaining Steady Hand.

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Originally Posted by BARDS_ARROW

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Rotation isn't really so important as long as you know the why for things. That's why I asked. You should be pushing your process to finish in one snyth before you start on the HQ stuff. Really, the important thing is getting inner quiet stacks up as high as you can go while still having the CP to use the finisher. Don't use goods completely for TotT. Precise Touch gives 2 stacks of inner. The finisher takes around 74 CP without the SH2 so you're looking at around 100 CP if you have to refresh it. When you start getting close to that, see how many stacks you have. You want to strive for 7 stacks or above, if you can. The finishing steps are: SH2 (if it'll fall off in the next 3 turns), Great Strides, Inno, BBlessing. You can totally get from 15% HQ to 100% HQ with 7+ inner stacks plus the finishing moves. If a good comes up and you haven't used GS first, then use TotT for that. Goods will give you 1.5 x the quality while GS gives you double so GS is always better than good. If a Good pops up before Inno but after GS, then use the BBlessing. Excellent should be used when it comes up (if you're at the end of your process.)

Then you finish with that one snyth and you're done.

http://i.imgur.com/Pn2D3uS.jpg

when you use a stone soup which give you 17 CP more you can have a touch even more (you can buy it for 35 gil in east thalalan from a npc)

http://i.imgur.com/6Un5svj.jpg

the best crafter has not the best stats just know how to use them :rolleyes:

Important: is a 100% rotation so it can be used as a macro and it will never ever fail! ^^

regards small hobbit =)

If you go to the gold saucer the vendor near the mini Cackpot do sell the stone soup as well x)

Damn chibi-hobbit béat me at doing a rotation XD

The huge difference between now and before to craft those awful thing...

as a general rule is more InnerQ stacks more control you have have.
When you do this rotation you can open your Character info and watch how your control ammout increase with every stack of your IQ and as finish when you reach the max control with your CP posible, you do Great Strikes which double your currently control which may already over 1,5 k with a few stack of IQ and you do Blessing which add also a bonus, so you insert around as a last step a touch with may 200%+ with 3k+ control which push so much HQ inside you wont belive your eyes :rolleyes:
just a small explain how crafting work

regards small hobbit =)

Screw rotations. You want a macro set.

I have been using the set here since 2.5something. It requires 392 Craftsmanship, 375 Control, 381 CP. This ment fully melded back then. it works with 40 and 80 durability stuff.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Star-Rotation

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Screw rotations. You want a macro set.

I have been using the set here since 2.5something. It requires 392 Craftsmanship, 375 Control, 381 CP. This ment fully melded back then. it works with 40 and 80 durability stuff.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Star-Rotation

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There's no way that would work with Masterbook II, unless I'm missing something.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

Screw rotations. You want a macro set.

I have been using the set here since 2.5something. It requires 392 Craftsmanship, 375 Control, 381 CP. This ment fully melded back then. it works with 40 and 80 durability stuff.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Star-Rotation

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why need a macro set for a rotation whats have been make for everyone so may not fit others, when i already make a 100% RNG free custom rotaion? :o

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

There's no way that would work with Masterbook II, unless I'm missing something.

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I agree...
It was an old macro
Which work for a specific amount of craftmanship, control and CP
And will not work on this particuliar 3 star craft