DEV Request - Please add extra search options to DF

It would be nice if we could have some search options added to DF.
This could go from wanting a healer to dps or not, having a tank stance dance or not, etc..

I request this since I got kicked twice from a DF expert roullette.
Once because i dpsed as a healer, they complaint that the tank went to low in health (never under 30%, just once, because tank took aoe damage, which is not my fault). I told them it would be nice if the tank uses his def cd on big pulls and selfheals (it was a war).

And then the next run I got kicked because I didn't dps, they clearly told me: Bye healer since you don't DPS.

In the end I really don't know what to do, in the next party I asked what they want me to do, complete silence...

So extra option selections to DF might help with this randomness of crapiness

This is not usefull...

1. There is no mechanic who forces you to do the praised option, like dpsing healers or stance dancing tanks.
2. It would lengthen the que times.
3. Fo such things is PF, cause you are searching for a special kind of party. DF is for searching a duty, however the party is. So you could ask for an option to search for specific party composition in DF.
4. You just got kicked for retardness of others and this can happen in the extra options too.

People would just figure out whatever option queued the fastest and queue that regardless of how they wanted to actually play.

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Originally Posted by Legion88

4. You just got kicked for retardness of others and this can happen in the extra options too.

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Pretty much this.

Try being more adaptive to your party's desires and less uncooperative and you may get kicked less. *shrug* I'm not saying either side was right, just that, if they ask you to do something or stop doing something, maybe listen?

Part of the problem is that the game design is a bit to free form with things like this, so the player base is able to make their own meta about how classes should be played. You'd think that'd be a good thing, and it is, until players start disagreeing with each other. I think SE needs to kind of make it clear (in-game) whether Healers (or tanks), should be dpsing or not. The player base isn't in agreement obviously, so we can't leave it up us. The game itself needs to say, yes you DPS or no you don't. How to accomplish, I have no idea, but the devs could really help out.

Or we could all just be nice to each other, I dunno.

One option to eliminate the healer shoudl/should not dps conflict would be to remove all damage spells while in dungeons/raids/primals.
No discussion if the healer should dps because he can't dps.
To give healers more to do we could give them a number of support skills turning it more into a healer/support class.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

One option to eliminate the healer shoudl/should not dps conflict would be to remove all damage spells while in dungeons/raids/primals.
No discussion if the healer should dps because he can't dps.
To give healers more to do we could give them a number of support skills turning it more into a healer/support class.

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I'd drop Scholar (and Astro and WHM) like a hot rock if they took away my ability to DPS.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I'd drop Scholar (and Astro and WHM) like a hot rock if they took away my ability to DPS.

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Sounds like you be more happy playing a dps job

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Sounds like you be more happy playing a dps job

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Or maybe they like healing but want to play their job to its full potential?

Removing dps abilities wouldnt work anyway, holy and assize are both healing/dps abilities.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Sounds like you be more happy playing a dps job

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I'm guessing by your response that you haven't looked at my Lodestone info. I have almost every job at 60 and I actually play many jobs on a regular basis, including DPS jobs. Quite honestly, healing in most of this game's content is so easy that I think I'd fall asleep if I didn't DPS. Throwing out a heal and standing around twiddling my thumbs for 15-20 seconds waiting for the tank's HP to fall isn't my idea of a good time. Scholar's base class is a DPS class and it remains very true to that, which is what I enjoy about it. It's a very flexible job. If I have a good co-healer and a very self-sufficient party (i.e. one that knows how to avoid licking the floor candy), I can crank out several hundred DPS while still helping keep the tanks alive. If the party (or my co-healer) is new or undergeared or just isn't so great, then I can back off of that and go full carry-mode with the heals.

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Originally Posted by Kitano123

Or maybe they like healing but want to play their job to its full potential?

Removing dps abilities wouldnt work anyway, holy and assize are both healing/dps abilities.

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Exactly this. If I can keep the tank on his feet AND help do damage, why shouldn't I?

Good point about Assize, as well.

Removing abilites would never work, that's just gimping the class.

But I wonder if either of those instances are reportable. I don't think "play style differences" really fits here. Both of those look like abuses of the kick system to me.

Removing all damage output from healers would make them very boring to play i agree.
At the same time we all play a class in our own way, for some its praying to the god of deeps and for others its just keeping the party alive. Whatever you choose its your choice and nobody should have any criticism about it. If players want any specific playstyle they should partyfinder it. In dutyfinder you have take the cards that are dealt.

Cutting edge raiding might be different I couldn't say.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Sounds like you be more happy playing a dps job

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I would do the same. I love healing on SCH but honestly once I know the content I really don't have to do much healing at all.
I've literally fallen asleep in a low level dungeon before, it was awful. (I had decided not to DPS but...obv not the right choice hhaha).