Impossible to join 24-person Raids/Dungeons

So a friend and I have come to a complete half in the end game raid missions. The problem is we can never find enough people via the duty finder. We were stuck at the Labyrinth of the Ancients quest for a ridiculous amount of time. Collectively we spent over 12 hours (HALF A DAY!) sitting in the duty finder waiting to connect. And don’t get me wrong, we didn’t half-assed it either; I’ve personally waited over 3 hours before, and when I am with my friend we generally wait 1-2 ½ hours. Luckily, to our surprise, and an absurd amount of time later, we finally were able to do it but not without the help of shouting people in populated areas. BUT NOW we are stuck at Syrcus Tower and are finding even less people. All we want to do is get past this to play the raids that people without Heavensward are playing.

I queued up for Syrcus Tower a few days ago because I heard the minion now drops 100%.
After over 8 hours, I went to feed my cat for a minute. When I returned, I had missed it popping up.

...I gave up on that minion :o

I'm queued up for Syrcus right now. All languages selected. Been in for over an hour and have 2/3, 2/6, 9/15. This is my third try today and having a lot better luck right now, but it's still going to take a while longer if it does happen. Hop in it now and see if you get in?

While you propably understand this, I'm sad to say the 50 stuff is not end game content for majority of people anymore. There might be glimmer of hope though. This weekend I spotted a shout that called people for organised Sunday crystal trinity runs. The shout also mentioned a reddit thread for more info. I sadly don't have the link at hand but it might be worth googling it up. Apparently there is an amount of people who are trying to take an organised approach to this now.

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Originally Posted by Atoli

...I gave up on that minion :o

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^ This.

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Thanks for the info. If I can't get a hold of that info or if I am unavailable, do you think if I were to try to organize this myself reddit would be the go to or is there a specific forum for FF that would be the smartest move?

I'm not reddit user myself so I have no idea. For starters though, start asking in shouts in some suitable areas of the game, and make a linkshell for it. I mean, you said you had asked in shouts but that was for more or less immediate run. Instead try to organise future run. It is a lot of work but if you can establish a linkshell with like minded people that should ease the hurdle later on. Maybe toss a thread here too.

A Roulette for CT would fix this. They have a Main Scenario Roulette that only has two dungeons in it, so why not a Crystal Tower Roulette for the 3?Have it give the same amount of exp as Main Scenario would at the end, since, as far as I know, monsters in CT don't give exp. Not only that, but the same could go for a Coil Roulette. Would be a little bit harder, so why not make the rewards just as satisfying?

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Originally Posted by Atoli

I queued up for Syrcus Tower a few days ago because I heard the minion now drops 100%.

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huh wait, it does ? I might join those weekly CT2 if that's the case

On FFXIV Reddit, there has been a movement to make Sunday the unofficial day to run CT. Might want to try it out this weekend.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

huh wait, it does ? I might join those weekly CT2 if that's the case

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In the thread about how the Echidna minion is too rare, people said it should be like with CT2 and WoD where you only have to worry about actually getting into the content and winning rolls against 23 other people now, instead of waiting for hours and then hope for that like 1% chance that it drops xD

Since when is the minion a 100% drop ?

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

Since when is the minion a 100% drop ?

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dunno but some friends just told me this in game too. And apparently it isn't 100% for 24 for 100% for each party

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

Since when is the minion a 100% drop ?

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In patch 3.1 they moved it to the treasure coffer instead of a chest. This is the same reason we get the crafting items doing undersized runs of extreme primals too. Every time I have run ST and WoD the minion has dropped, I think it is 100% drop rate.

Solutions:

1: Add a roulette for 24-man content.

2: Reduce CT raids to 12-man (3x light party). Scale down accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

Since when is the minion a 100% drop ?

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If you check the patch notes it states the details.

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[2.0] The following items will now appear in the treasure chest of each party in an alliance when undertaking Syrcus Tower or the World of Darkness:

Wind-up Onion Knight / Puff of Darkness

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...c91d884c6b6a84

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

On FFXIV Reddit, there has been a movement to make Sunday the unofficial day to run CT. Might want to try it out this weekend.

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I got a pop here a couple weeks ago. I think it starts at around 5pm EST.

Yep, Sunday CT runs works fine (at least on Phoenix). I do it every Sunday evening via DF. Takes about 40-60 min in queue.

That said I still feel older raids need new life breathed into them. I want to run Syrcus for a full Scylla set...but I've waited 3 hours in the morning and 3 hours at night 4 days in a row and can't get a single queue in. That's a problem.

Here on Sargatanas there have been a few LotA/ST/WoD groups set up via df skirting the edges of peak times. They pre-build an alliance to run all 3 and it seems to take them very little time to do so.

Have you tried that on your server? Never know it may work :D

That is the best solution through FC or in conjunction with others in PF form the full alliance because nobody wants to solo queue for it anymore. Once you have a full alliance you can run as many times as you want. Or yeah they could try making a raid roulette for funsies.

Really don't understand why there's no Raid Roulette with XP added to mobs in LotA/CT/WoD.

Queues go down dramatically, they get to re-use old content for new purposes, and expands the breadth of what you can do to level an alt class.

Proposed Solution:

Make Mhachi Farthing a daily drop and expand it to a new Alliance Roulette.

There is going to be far better equipment in Patch 3.2, and the Farthings will be obsolete. Make this a great opportunity to have the rest of the jobs catch up.

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Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora

Proposed Solution:

Make Mhachi Farthing a daily drop and expand it to a new Alliance Roulette.

There is going to be far better equipment in Patch 3.2, and the Farthings will be obsolete. Make this a great opportunity to have the rest of the jobs catch up.

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Why would you want MORE of those cluttering you? Considering how many times more of those you earn than eso gear. Sure eso will be uncapped next patch, but it will still be way too painfully slow to earn.

Just give them tomestone bonuses and a roulette. Problem solved.
And make the next relic quest need a specific item from them a la Precision Gordian Items. Problem even more solved.

it is SE after all so the solution will be:

Next stage in relic, earn drops from LotA, ST and WoD. Each drop has a 1% drop rate and will go into the loot pool. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

it is SE after all so the solution will be:

Next stage in relic, earn drops from LotA, ST and WoD. Each drop has a 1% drop rate and will go into the loot pool. Good luck!

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Please look forward to it.

And again SE missed an opportunity. I'm never going to get to do the original raids ;_;

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Originally Posted by FunkyBunch

And again SE missed an opportunity. I'm never going to get to do the original raids ;_;

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Don't count your chickens just yet, with the added XP bonus to Crystal Towers, if It gives XP on par with say The Vault or Library, you can be looking at a lot of people going back to level, as it will be the fastest method to level or perhaps the XP scales on level, so you will be able to experience these raids. Just, not with the solution you were thinking of.

Mentor Roulette can put people into the tower raids, according to the patch notes. And might be fairly likely to do so given that the roulette's stated objective is apparently to get people into any content that's having a hard time filling the queue.

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Originally Posted by GenericMagus

Don't count your chickens just yet, with the added XP bonus to Crystal Towers, if It gives XP on par with say The Vault or Library, you can be looking at a lot of people going back to level, as it will be the fastest method to level or perhaps the XP scales on level, so you will be able to experience these raids. Just, not with the solution you were thinking of.

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Lv 50 dungeons give xp. Totally crap xp not worth running at all, and it never helped the queues there. Don't expect CT to give good xp.

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Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

it is SE after all so the solution will be:

Next stage in relic, earn drops from LotA, ST and WoD. Each drop has a 1% drop rate and will go into the loot pool. Good luck!

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If they put the existing "Unidentifiable" items in that CT 3-stage run that's already in game then you'd see CT spring back to life. Everybody would like another way to get those.

Orchestrion record thingies can be collected from the old raids (both Coil and Crystal Tower ones), so they actually did put something valuable/collectable in there, besides XP.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

Lv 50 dungeons give xp. Totally crap xp not worth running at all, and it never helped the queues there. Don't expect CT to give good xp.

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It's just speculation at the moment, and Crystal Tower is much different than the lv 50 dungeons. The reason why the lv 50 dungeons were given XP is to bring it up to the levelling roulette when you entered those dungeons for High Level roulette. Crystal Tower has no roulette attached to it, so the XP from Crystal Tower will have to be made greater in order to make it worthwhile, otherwise it's another case of SE completely dropping the ball when there are plenty of good ideas to incentivise people into Crystal Tower.