Tips for new and old players.
DOT/HOT anything narrow like ramps and paths.
Here's how it works, you only need to deter 1-2 people to create doubt. The inaction/reaction of those 1-2 people will create a chain of influenced behavior affecting the fluidity of movement.
Congrats! You just learned Herd Behavior, Crowd Psychology and Collective behavior.
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You now understand how to deter a push.
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DOT/HOT THE DAMN GROUND
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01-31-2016, 01:25 PMBluffnixDOT/HOT THE DAMN GROUND
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01-31-2016, 04:34 PMxxczx
I think most classes keep their AOE ground skills off cooldown, if you're talking about shadow flare, it's more of a DPS loss to recast when the battle has started. Doton is situational.
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01-31-2016, 04:57 PMCanadaneYou may have missed his point.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxczx
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01-31-2016, 10:52 PMMyon88
My favourite thing to do is deploy a turret on the outskirts of whatever area we currently hold. Because it's just a turret, you can extend it out way further into areas a person wouldn't be able to safely occupy.
It forces people to dismount early or risk getting heavied, which greatly slows the momentum of whoever is attacking you. Of course, if you're smart, you'll realize the turret won't actually fire unless it's owner is in combat - but like has been said, you only need a couple of people to be intimidated for it to have done it's job.
They're great for area control (especially node defense) and intimidation in general, and all that from a stupid throwaway turret. -
01-31-2016, 11:36 PMSelli
Shadowflaring ramps is the best. I've seen so many Ninjas have their Hide canceled because they think they can just walk through Shadowflare without any consequences. XD
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02-01-2016, 12:06 AMxxczxThat's weird, cus I give no fucks to Shadow Flare as NIN and can walk through it with hide just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
As long as the hit is not direct (e.g DoTs) it doesn't mess up hide. I've been bane'd and slept in hide before. -
02-01-2016, 01:12 AMHouston009
Grounded aoes are a weird type of DoT, as in they do a direct hit when they tick.
Where as normal DoT Ticks wont break sleeps/bind/hide, grounded aoes will break sleep/bind/hide.
Abilities such as Bane and Sleep have no direct hit, so they wont break a sleep/bind/hide. -
02-01-2016, 01:43 AMxxczx
Ground AOEs has never broke my hide. I've walked through Doton while hidden before too
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02-01-2016, 01:54 AMHouston009
I suppose it doesn't since it hasn't broken your stealth.
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02-01-2016, 03:55 AMBluffnix
It's not that it will break hide, that is really not what this post is about.
NOTE: Hide can glitch on detection if the angle of the ground AOE is off.
(This can be seen as elevation directly affects the utility of the skill "detection" which is ground based and can be avoided by standing on a rock)
Again the usage is that it is a form of crowd control.
Doton is a great deterrent as it adds Heavy, but added Shadow Flare layers, Turrets, Flaming Arrow and all of a sudden its not so grand to enter and lose all that health.
Understanding the game is mapped at x1, y1. you will most likely spend 3-4 seconds moving past a dot earning that -200 hp.
Add multiple stacks of this and you are assured -1k+ HP passing 5 ground dots under Heavy.
Add that this will apply to 24+ people should they cross is -24k HP. -
02-01-2016, 06:10 AMSelliI've seen Ninjas get caught with their pants down a lot on that middle ramp node in the caves. They'll be at about the top edge (like they were trying to hug the edge of the ramp) and they got caught. I always assumed it was from walking through an AoE, as I notice them getting caught when we're all standing on the ramp and not doing anything, so it's not like anyone was doing any other AoEs like Assize (then again, I can't accurately say what all 24 people in my GC Alliances are up too). Perhaps the AoE was getting reapplied and the first hit from it being placed broke it? Or perhaps because they were layered, which did enough damage to cancel the Hide? I've seen it happen far more than once, though, for it to be a coincidence so I always assumed it was from the AoEs.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxczx
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02-01-2016, 08:28 AMSpawnie
theres some places in seal rock which are great for unleashing your limit breaks was funny last night flames were pushing the last few minutes for our s area saw 4-5 mage lbs hit in the small pathway between the rocks n no1 was left lol
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02-01-2016, 09:02 AMDimitriiFunny how alliances will purposely choose to funnel themselves in that area when they can easily go around and attack from the north or south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawnie
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02-01-2016, 12:24 PMSpawnieagreed lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dimitrii
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02-02-2016, 03:56 AMGeologo
Honestly Shadow Flares are not such useful during a battle, I understand that you say to set it up before and it's "ok" but if I have to push a cliff I'll totally ignore to get a tick of it, as BLM I obviously dont' stand in it but It doesn't refrain me from attacking x)
Instead I totally hate Doton that damend laggy heavy is terrible, I can pass through the puddle and get "Doton Heavy" right after I crossed it all for few sec xD
And also I would like to make the people think that Shadow Flare interrupt the Tomelith capture, it's the second time that an enraged bard shout me to land it under a tome costantly.
Also I hate that it break sleep and I have an issue with all the ground HoT that you will hardly get if they are yours, of the other alliance or of the enemies, up to me they should apply a color filter in pvp fon not-for-you ground DoT/HoTs x) -
02-04-2016, 07:13 PMRenewhmYep, you can walk through it before you get the debuff. You can't stand on it for too long. Once you get debuff, your hide wearsQuote:
Originally Posted by xxczx