YOSHI GIVE US OUR ZETAS BACK!!

There are TONS of people who, spent countless hours, days, months attaining there Zeta weapons who DID NOT, by dumb luck, finish the quest the Vital Title.... Hence making it impossible after we traded in our zeta's to get a replica item for glamour... this is seriously disheartening and I am sure there are many others who share the same feelings...

PLEASE HELP DEVS! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

It's already confirmed that you will be able to get them back in 3.2.

Watch live letters/read summaries if you can before making post like this, thanks.

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Originally Posted by Zhexos

Hey everyone,

In Patch 3.2, players who have already turned in their Zodiac weapon Zeta before completing the quest "the Vital Title" will be able to purchase a replica for their weapon. Furthermore, by equipping the replica weapon, players will be able to accept the quest "the Vital Title."

We ask you to hang tight just a bit longer!

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From the "Can't buy zeta replica?" thread.

Well, it is kind of common sense that you would "lose" the item if you gave it away. Not really their fault you didn't prepare.

the real disheartening thing is you spent countless hours, days, months for getting the zeta and then at the first occasion you trade it in for two crystals :x

You don't have to trade it in, you can always farm the crystals you need to get the 2 nodes. No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to trade it in. It is a option for those who want to skip the first step in the new relic.

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Originally Posted by Tint

the real disheartening thing is you spent countless hours, days, months for getting the zeta and then at the first occasion you trade it in for two crystals :x

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Well, technically you're trading it in for 18 crystals which are then converted into 2 crystals. To be honest, though... I like my Zeta, and I got the replica, but I like the Awoken look so much more that I don't even use it.

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Originally Posted by Malzian

Well, technically you're trading it in for 18 crystals which are then converted into 2 crystals. To be honest, though... I like my Zeta, and I got the replica, but I like the Awoken look so much more that I don't even use it.

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No, she actually converts your Zeta into the two crystals. She clearly states you get them either way.

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Originally Posted by Tint

the real disheartening thing is you spent countless hours, days, months for getting the zeta and then at the first occasion you trade it in for two crystals :x

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The weapon is a useless piece of junk, so why not? :p

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Originally Posted by Tint

the real disheartening thing is you spent countless hours, days, months for getting the zeta and then at the first occasion you trade it in for two crystals :x

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Yep :( I traded in my 3 and instantly regretted it. So started the WHM one again (my main job) and finished the Zeta last week. I already had the replica, but it didn't feel the same (stupid I know) so I'm much happier now it's back again (and has better stats this time than my original, even though obviously doing the stats perfectly was completely pointless!)

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

No, she actually converts your Zeta into the two crystals. She clearly states you get them either way.

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Yes... you get two crystals... which are also what you get if you give her 18 crystals making the Zeta the equivalent of 18 crystals which are also the equivalent of 2. No, you don't get the actual 18 crystals, but your Zeta is the direct analogue for them.

the current relics, will be equally useless, when they add new relics, when lv cap goes up, again. just so everyone is aware :)

I'm still baffled by the people who completed the Zeta quest but DID NOT go the, what, five minutes to get the title?
It's just like "why" to me.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I'm still baffled by the people who completed the Zeta quest but DID NOT go the, what, five minutes to get the title?
It's just like "why" to me.

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Personally, I had my Zeta for awhile and never knew that "The Vital Title" even existed.

HOWEVER....

When the new relic quest was released it was made very very clear that relinquishing your Zeta meant losing it forever. Because of this, I went to get my replica first, to insure that I was able to obtain it. As it turns out, I did not have the option. Once I realized that, I did a little looking around and minutes later noticed the quest I never picked up and completed. I finished the quest, got my replica, and went on to trade in the original.

What I don't understand is all of the people who say the replica is extremely important to them, yet they traded their hard-earned Zeta in without securing a replica first. If it was so important to you, then you shouldn't have accepted the trade-in (complete with a clear "final decision" confirmation) blindly.

Anyway, SE is making the option available, you just have to be patient.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Personally, I had my Zeta for awhile and never knew that "The Vital Title" even existed.
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Anyway, SE is making the option available, you just have to be patient.

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i gotta ask, how? the quest is in the same area as where you turn in the items to get your zeta.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

The weapon is a useless piece of junk, so why not? :p

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It's an absolutely terrible way to begin the new questline, for one.

I mean think about it, if you trade in your Zeta the Anima weapon questline basically starts with a giant reminder of the final destination for what you're grinding on; Junk. Nevermind the grind, that's probably my biggest gripe with the Anima questline, it basically opened with "You're working on something we'll probably just burn later", killed my motivation right out the gate...

Granted, that's all the developers seem to want Relics to be at this point... A far cry from literally ever other titles legendary weapons... These are just grindy tomestone weapons really... Can't help but think they should have gone the XI route and just had Zodiac and Anima weapons... Got a Zeta? Good, keep upgrading that for the new level cap. Didn't get a Zeta? No problem, we have a new set of weapons you can work on. Wouldn't even be that hard to work such a system into the narrative... I mean, didn't the whole Zeta portion essentially have us trying to grant our weapons consciousness? Glad they actually delivered on that for the Anima weapons, but I can't imagine it would have been hard to open the Anima questline with "Well, we've already done most of this!" and continue working on the Zodiac weapon. I found it fairly jarring going through the first part of the quest looking at Grelot going "Dude, we literally have done this already, we made a weapon with a "soul", how drunk are you right now?", and it was just downright insulting to just take the Zeta and burn it... At least when we did that for our original Relic weapons it was for a significant upgrade, this time? Oh, a crappy i170 Eso weapon? Gee thanks.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

The weapon is a useless piece of junk, so why not? :p

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I worked hard for my Nirvana Zeta :p, it's in the safe hands of my retainer ^^.

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Originally Posted by gzbleezy

There are TONS of people who, spent countless hours, days, months attaining there Zeta weapons who DID NOT, by dumb luck, finish the quest the Vital Title.... Hence making it impossible after we traded in our zeta's to get a replica item for glamour... this is seriously disheartening and I am sure there are many others who share the same feelings...

PLEASE HELP DEVS! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

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you could always buy one from the calamity salvager and do it over again? dunno should have realized there was no zeta replica to buy but no crystals for anima weapon were too important

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

i gotta ask, how? the quest is in the same area as where you turn in the items to get your zeta.

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It's been awhile, so I'm not 100% sure. If I remember correctly, the quest marker is red unless your Zeta is actually equipped. I had another relic questline going, so he always had a red marker on his head, anyway. Once I got my Zeta, I didn't see an active quest, so I probably teleported out and then didn't really have a reason to go back.

However, like I said, once it came time to turn in my Zeta for the new questline, I went back and made sure I had the replica option. Since I didn't have it, I searched the area, saw the quest, and finished it.

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Originally Posted by Tint

the real disheartening thing is you spent countless hours, days, months for getting the zeta and then at the first occasion you trade it in for two crystals :x

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BIS.BIS.BIS.BIS.BIS.BIS.....srry couldn't contain the troll opportunity. Stupid design choice if you ask me. We should've skipped that last step with our zeta weapons because that's just about how long it took to make our zeta relics in the first place.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I'm still baffled by the people who completed the Zeta quest but DID NOT go the, what, five minutes to get the title?
It's just like "why" to me.

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That quest didn't give a title. It gave nothing except an achievement.

You receive your Zeta and the "Z" title together. THEN he has a red locked quest... which was very easy to overlook since for many people he ALWAYS had a red locked quest.

But yes, let's blame players for SE's bizarre coding decisions and poor patch notes. "If you possess a zeta you'll be able to buy a replica!" (false). If you completed an arbitrary quest which was in no way necessary to get your zeta, you can buy a replica.

Anyway, at least they're fixing it.

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Originally Posted by seida

You receive your Zeta and the "Z" title together. THEN he has a red locked quest... which was very easy to overlook since for many people he ALWAYS had a red locked quest.

But yes, let's blame players for SE's bizarre coding decisions and poor patch notes. "If you possess a zeta you'll be able to buy a replica!" (false). If you completed an arbitrary quest which was in no way necessary to get your zeta, you can buy a replica.

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And this is why it's understandable how a player can miss the quest or the ability to get a replica initially.

However, I do think the players have to accept some responsibility if they are ranting and complaining about how important their Zeta is, how much time they invested in it, and how badly they want a replica. If you wanted it that badly, then you should have made 100% sure that you could secure a replica before you blindly turned in the original. The turn-in makes it very clear that you will not get it back.

Either way it's getting "fixed", and creating thread titles in all caps isn't going to make it happen any faster. Some people just need to accept that they missed it the first time (partially their own fault) and be patient.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Yep :( I traded in my 3 and instantly regretted it. So started the WHM one again (my main job) and finished the Zeta last week. I already had the replica, but it didn't feel the same (stupid I know) so I'm much happier now it's back again (and has better stats this time than my original, even though obviously doing the stats perfectly was completely pointless!)

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I actually wonder what is really faster: making a new Zeta or farming these stupid 18 crystals...

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

I'm still baffled by the people who completed the Zeta quest but DID NOT go the, what, five minutes to get the title?
It's just like "why" to me.

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There's a title other than <Z>?

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Originally Posted by EdgeFayth

I actually wonder what is really faster: making a new Zeta or farming these stupid 18 crystals...

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Even with the nerfs to the original relics, pretty sure the crystal farming will be faster! :D

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Well, it is kind of common sense that you would "lose" the item if you gave it away. Not really their fault you didn't prepare.

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And again you miss the point. The devs said we could acquire replicas of our zeta weapons for glamour purposes, and that we would only be losing the weapon itself for the anima quest. THEN it was revealed that the replicas weren't available for people who hadn't completed that one quest from 2.5, which is only possible to do with the weapon that they've just permanently destroyed.

This wasn't intended by the developers, it was an oversight. Fortunately, it is an oversight that they are fixing in 3.2.

It's kind of difficult for players to "prepare" for developer oversight.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

Even with the nerfs to the original relics, pretty sure the crystal farming will be faster! :D

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I'd say Zeta is more fun, though. Animus books are probably the only real headache left in the quest, Alexandrite and Light farming are incredibly brief now. Had quite a bit of fun soloing some of the dungeon requirements.

As it currently stands, speed doesn't even strike me as much of a factor... If I want a i200 weapon quickly, I'll farm i205 weapons off Thordan. Doing it casually, I imagine I can get at least a few Zetas in the time the i200 to i210 Anima jump takes for one weapon. Might as well get all the Zetas done for potential glamours down the road now, rather than rush through HW FATE grinding and end up "wasting" the Zetas in the long run.