Struggling to pick a job..

I've been playing paladin since ive started playing the game and I'm at the point now where I feel like I'm not doing a very good job as a tank. SO I've been thinking of switching to a dps class, but I'm having trouble trying to pick which one. What I'm kinda looking for is what is really useful in raids/other hard group content. I kinda wanna have a bit of utility other than just straight up pew pew damage.

Play either BRD or MCH. They're DPS, but more support which is very useful for any content. I'd say BRD might be the easier of the two all things considered. Also, BRD's playstyle drastically changes once they get W. Minuet in the 50s, so be prepared to adjust.

If big numbers are your thing, DRG or BLM. DRG probably has the most utility to bring. It's also the flavor of the month job as there are ALOT of DRGs.

BRD\MCN are your obvious support, BRD inching a little more with Foe's Requium. Both giving TP and MP regen,

NIN offers a slashing debuff, agro management, TP regen on other player, 10 % party DPS boost.

DRG offers piercing debuff and a 15% crit buff to party. Note that most love DRG now for this DPS increase.

MNK offers blunt and -10% INT debuff, 20% heal buff to party(kinda small range). MNK's -10% INT though is replaced by a DRK though so their usefullness is kinda low, mainly bring their DPS at this point.

SMN is the only DPS that can raise in combat. Can also use Eye for an Eye and Virus.

BLM can give a 30% magical resistance buff to one player. Thats about it, they blow stuff up.



If i missed anything im sure someone will help me out lol. Choose your poison!

Going from tank I would have to recommend a melee job as these are at closest to what you're currently used to. I think playing from a melee perspective helps you understand what a good tank is, and when/if you ever go back to tanking that experience as a melee will help you be a better tank. Playing as a ranged is a lot different than playing as a melee/tank. Being able to move while you execute attacks is one of the biggest conveniences on the melee classes, getting out of that habit is kinda tough, but not impossible if you're looking for a total change of pace.

NIN is probably the best support melee if you are looking for more utility, followed by DRG. Both DRG and MNK are very competitive in damage, NIN is a little behind in that regard but offers more raid utility than either MNK or DRG as Morzy's overview explains.

If you plan to switch I would suggest DRG that way you can find all those "DRG Tank" jokes funny in some way.
They are really starting to get old...

@ OP - What area of tanking are you struggling at? Knowing that would help in choosing a better fit for you.

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Originally Posted by Vellel

SO I've been thinking of switching to a dps class, but I'm having trouble trying to pick which one. What I'm kinda looking for is what is really useful in raids/other hard group content. I kinda wanna have a bit of utility other than just straight up pew pew damage.

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u said u wanna play a DD with support aspect... but what about a supporter with dps aspect? you should take a look at the SCH cls although its a healer... they are lovely taken by any raid/endcontent cause of their ability to spread dps and buffs/debuffs for good. faery heals while you can focus on buffs (eye for an eye, protes, stoneskin, shieldheals) debuffs (virus, shadowflare, dots with statuseffects) AND dps...

...else all DD support skills where mention above... i havent played a melee dd yet (just smn and blm) but in my point of view NIN looks good for your likings :)

so long
Yuni

I have my arcanist almost to 50 so how are summoners these days? Are they even wanted in raids?

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Originally Posted by Judge_Xero

@ OP - What area of tanking are you struggling at? Knowing that would help in choosing a better fit for you.

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Yes, please answer this, I'll be honest with you, everyone say DPS is the job with no responsibility but it's is not easy in the least to be great at dpsing. I'm doing a little over 1220 on a dummy on my I203 nin and i'm almost completely discouraged from playing it now because of that.

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Originally Posted by Vellel

I have my arcanist almost to 50 so how are summoners these days? Are they even wanted in raids?

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Very much so. Definitely recommend taking it to 60.

Mainly holding aggro in mobs. I know that gear factors into that but even then I don't feel like flash or circle of scorn are that great aoe wise for taking back aggro

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Originally Posted by Vellel

Mainly holding aggro in mobs. I know that gear factors into that but even then I don't feel like flash or circle of scorn are that great aoe wise for taking back aggro

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Paladins technically have the weakest aoe in the game, the idea behind Paladin tanking is that you use your aoe for initial hate gen to ramp up, then you mix in your combos alternating targets. But gear is very important for keeping hate, you should always gear up your weapon first

Also another thing, are there any leveling tips? Cause going from 1 to 60 is a huge drag on dps especially with those dungeon ques..

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Also another thing, are there any leveling tips? Cause going from 1 to 60 is a huge drag on dps especially with those dungeon ques..

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Hunting log
Challenge log
FATEs (while you wait for queue)
Levequest

You could go WAR and be tank and dps at the same time. They have no problems with aggro as far as I've heard.

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Originally Posted by Vellel

I have my arcanist almost to 50 so how are summoners these days? Are they even wanted in raids?

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yeah the summoners got a huge burst boost with the 50+ skills. They outdamage every other cls in aoe dps now even Blackmages... :3
Deathflare hits every mob without loosing % at the 2nd+ target. Not to mention, that micro-managing your egi is very funny at least for me.

And best of all: you'll get your SCH as a bonus without even taking a single step into a dungeon while leveling the SMN ^^

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Originally Posted by Vellel

Mainly holding aggro in mobs. I know that gear factors into that but even then I don't feel like flash or circle of scorn are that great aoe wise for taking back aggro

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It depends on the context of gear. i140 Tank VS i210 DPS would have issues holding hate. But within 30-40 ilvls shouldn't be an issue.

If you gear isnt that low then it could be a coordination issue. PLD is the easiest tank skill wise
FoF -> Shield Lob to draw mobs -> Flash + CoS -> Flash
Then just maintain aggro by cycling through mobs with aggro or dps combos.

Any DPS will have a higher skill curve than that. Support has to pull high numbers while keeping track of party resources.

I would also suggest Ninja, at least give it a try to see if it suits you

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Originally Posted by Vellel

I've been playing paladin since ive started playing the game and I'm at the point now where I feel like I'm not doing a very good job as a tank. SO I've been thinking of switching to a dps class, but I'm having trouble trying to pick which one. What I'm kinda looking for is what is really useful in raids/other hard group content. I kinda wanna have a bit of utility other than just straight up pew pew damage.

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You want a great DD class with group utility?


Warrior.

You are welcome. :)

They can all be used in endgame and it's better to have a class you play well and enjoy than a slightly more in-demand class that you resent or are bored with. Go with what works. Test out your options. Change your mind. It's all fine.

Honestly, many classes play off each other. Leveling DRG forced me to think in terms of off-GCDs, which improved my BRD. Better rhythm and comfort with timing from BRD improved my BLM play to the point that I no longer hated it and picked it up as my second main.

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Originally Posted by Vellel

Also another thing, are there any leveling tips? Cause going from 1 to 60 is a huge drag on dps especially with those dungeon ques..

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Fates, fates, and more fates. Along with hunting logs, your daily roulettes, and maybe some additional runs of the highest leveling dungeon you have access to. And if you're doing fates in Heavensward, then hopefully you have a level 60 character that can be on step one of the anima quest so that crystal farming can happen along the way.