Warriors: are you ready for the nerfs?

the balancing of the tanks in upcoming patch porbly means 99% warrior nerfs.
id rather they nerf war survivability than damage tbh

I am going to be very sad when/if we see a wave of nerfs coming in :( Though, I am specifically dreading the AoE nerf to SMN.

They could just make the other two tank classes better. Ha!

why nerf smn aoe? they dont do very well in the single target already.
if anything, mnk and whm aoe needs nerfing

It isn't just warrior nerf in 3.2, from the chat I gather blm is too strong and will get potency nerf to their fire spells, mnk will also get a nerf, their aoe is too strong and they have too many ways to get tp back, probably nerf their tp recovery.

Drk is overuse and abuse, they will most likely nerf drk. Sch are able to solo ex primal, which is ridiculous, no other healing job can solo primal ex.

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

why nerf smn aoe? they dont do very well in the single target already.
if anything, mnk and whm aoe needs nerfing

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I wouldn't say SMN do not do well in single target, but it's definitely not as strong as their AoE. The strength of their AoE compared to other jobs is much larger than the weakness of their single target.

Though, I'd love for them to not be nerfed.

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

why nerf smn aoe? they dont do very well in the single target already.
if anything, mnk and whm aoe needs nerfing

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Have you actually tried WHM aoing? it's pretty bad since HW, you'll probably run out of Mp before you do any serious damage. Unless it's like 2 targets. it actually needs a buff. BLM aoe is the one that got nerfed, that shouldn't have.

They're not nerfing the Warrior, this is complete hearsay.

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How about just buffing everyone else? Some Jobs really need a buff *coughPLDcough*

Think War and Drk are just fine as is, Pld is the real thing that needs to be worked on, it could really use buffing, they can keep it low dps but they really need to make Pld more defensive so that it can take those huge hits with ease that War and Drk would dread over, at the moment Pld doesn't really have that def/mitigation advantage anymore, especially with magic def. Oaths could also use some change, if not a complete change they should at least make it a lot easier to switch between them, without mp cost or too long cooldowns, more like War's stances.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It isn't just warrior nerf in 3.2, from the chat I gather blm is too strong and will get potency nerf to their fire spells, mnk will also get a nerf, their aoe is too strong and they have too many ways to get tp back, probably nerf their tp recovery.

Drk is overuse and abuse, they will most likely nerf drk. Sch are able to solo ex primal, which is ridiculous, no other healing job can solo primal ex.

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You just want to nerf everything, don't you?

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

why nerf smn aoe? they dont do very well in the single target already.
if anything, mnk and whm aoe needs nerfing

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WHM AOE has already been nerfed into the ground. Twice. It has absurdly high MP cost and anything more than 2-3 enemies does almost no damage. Aero III is AOE, but SCH can Bane their DoTs, so if anything that just makes them slightly competitive. Aero III can also miss. The only really strong AOE they have is Assize, which has a long cooldown.

Some men just want to see the world burn

They've mentioned before that they'd rather buff classes up to equality than nerf one down.

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It isn't just warrior nerf in 3.2, from the chat I gather blm is too strong and will get potency nerf to their fire spells, mnk will also get a nerf, their aoe is too strong and they have too many ways to get tp back, probably nerf their tp recovery.

Drk is overuse and abuse, they will most likely nerf drk. Sch are able to solo ex primal, which is ridiculous, no other healing job can solo primal ex.

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So BLM damage is in line with BRD and MCH just without the utility?

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Originally Posted by Kai_Lee

It isn't just warrior nerf in 3.2, from the chat I gather blm is too strong and will get potency nerf to their fire spells, mnk will also get a nerf, their aoe is too strong and they have too many ways to get tp back, probably nerf their tp recovery.

Drk is overuse and abuse, they will most likely nerf drk. Sch are able to solo ex primal, which is ridiculous, no other healing job can solo primal ex.

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Geez, just nerf everything to the ground, huh, why not just ask all attacks to do 1 damage and we just peck everything to death.

and BLM does not need a nerf, they have to actually work for that damage due to having to NOT MOVE for most of it, any nerfs and BLM honestly wouldn't be worth using anymore.

Leave poor BLM alone. They work hard for that damage.

BLM just got a potency increase like not too long ago, why take it away now?

From what chat? I'd like a source on nerfs other than rebalancing tank stats

Where is all of this coming from? Any source links on all of these supposed nerfs?

Nerf Dragoon and Warrior, sch's healing output, the fairy's healing output, mnk's AoE, Ninja's AoE, WHM's Holy.and

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

Nerf Dragoon and Warrior, sch's healing output, the fairy's healing output, mnk's AoE, Ninja's AoE, WHM's Holy.and

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Hopefully this is a joke. NIN has almost no AOE. SCH fairy has already been nerfed. Holy has already been nerfed 2 or 3 times.

I'd rather nerf the forum.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Hopefully this is a joke. NIN has almost no AOE. SCH fairy has already been nerfed. Holy has already been nerfed 2 or 3 times.

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You found me out! Just nerf the fairy and Holy and I'm happy.

Why nerf warrors? :/

It's like when I duty finder roulettes I notice a few things.

A bad warrior that doesn't understand their job, still isn't a bad tank, does passably well and we clear the expert just fine.
A bad DRK can't hold onto stuff. We struggle through.
A bad PLD is harder to find. But when find one... it's just a mess like can't believe, they got to 60 and still think pld is a dps job or don't have a soul crystal bad. They have intelligence accessories bad.

Nerfing warriors is gonna be bad... :x I won't be as relieved when I get them in DF... :x

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Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH

You found me out! Just nerf the fairy and Holy and I'm happy.

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Ok so you acknowledged you were joking? or what, cause Holy is pretty almost a waste of MP at this point for anything other then stunning. and what exactly do you want nerfed on the faries.. they are low enough already. but if you actually were joking nevermind i guess.

I got no reliable source just like the OP I just pull stuff out of my butt. Just to see players reaction and responses. Oh yes, it work too.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Where is all of this coming from? Any source links on all of these supposed nerfs?

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He obviously heard it from one of the elderly ladies at the local retirement home whose grandchild is friends with someone on the internet whose dad works at Nintendo who in turn knows a guy in Square Enix who heard a rumor during lunch from one of the janitors.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Why nerf warrors? :/

It's like when I duty finder roulettes I notice a few things.

A bad warrior that doesn't understand their job, still isn't a bad tank, does passably well and we clear the expert just fine.
A bad DRK can't hold onto stuff. We struggle through.
A bad PLD is harder to find. But when find one... it's just a mess like can't believe, they got to 60 and still think pld is a dps job or don't have a soul crystal bad. They have intelligence accessories bad.

Nerfing warriors is gonna be bad... :x I won't be as relieved when I get them in DF... :x

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It's because the game isn't balanced around bad players, it's balanced around the best players and the optimal potential of the job. Right now WARs do an insane amount of damage for a tank job and it's causing them to be preferred over the other tanks. Either WARs need a major damage nerf or DRk and especially PLD need some buffs. To be honest this wouldn't be an issue if the devs weren't so lazy as to keep using DPS checks as the primary difficulty barrier in raid content. As it is though DPS is all that matters when forming a raid group now, which is also why MCH and AST are unfavorable choices due to how poorly they contribute to group DPS when compared to alternatives.

I'm not sure where the SMN nerf comments are coming from though. SMNs were in a really bad place just before the expansion and our AOE changes were our primary fix. Nerfing SMN AOE will just put us back where we were...

This thread is purely speculation though. No comments have been made by the devs regarding the situation that I'm aware of.

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Why nerf warrors? :/

It's like when I duty finder roulettes I notice a few things.

A bad warrior that doesn't understand their job, still isn't a bad tank, does passably well and we clear the expert just fine.
A bad DRK can't hold onto stuff. We struggle through.
A bad PLD is harder to find. But when find one... it's just a mess like can't believe, they got to 60 and still think pld is a dps job or don't have a soul crystal bad. They have intelligence accessories bad.

Nerfing warriors is gonna be bad... :x I won't be as relieved when I get them in DF... :x

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yeah , lets balance the game around bad players

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I'd rather nerf the forum.

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LOL. 10/10 post

You don't have anything to support this, why would you make this statement unless you want to rile up people on the forum for no good reason?

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

Where is all of this coming from? Any source links on all of these supposed nerfs?

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No, there are no sources on any of this.

dont need any sources to see WAR is a step above the other 2 tanks

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

dont need any sources to see WAR is a step above the other 2 tanks

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Gr8 b8 m8

/10 char

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Originally Posted by bounddreamer

Gr8 b8 m8

/10 char

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I even almost fell for that BS.

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Originally Posted by bounddreamer

Gr8 b8 m8

/10 char

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To be fair, General consensus is that Warriors are... 2? 3 leagues better than any other tank. I see them getting a nerf to either survivability or damage.

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

dont need any sources to see WAR is a step above the other 2 tanks

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That's true. I'd hope for a buff for the other 2 tanks though to match. maybe an improved Soul Steal (or w/e) and pallys heal skill cooldown reduction

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Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77

dont need any sources to see WAR is a step above the other 2 tanks

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a step? ..... war >>> drk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pld

Why would they need to nerf WAR? They gave WAR this dmg on purpose to begin with.