Is Ravana now FF canon ?

Being a huge fan of Ivalice and Vagrant Story, is SE now officially making Ravana/VS mobs part of the FF universe ?

If I recall yaz originally claimed that VS was not part of FF ( even though there was plenty of FF items and other tidbits ), later on it would seem he went back on this and claimed that it suddenly does take place in Ivalice, and that VS takes place way into the future ( sorta being FF 12-3 )where moogles are dead and so on.

Has SE ( I don't think it's in the ultimania for VS ) officially said anything since those days ? I'm guessing because she is now in XIV that she is technically part of FF universe and that so is VS and Ivalice all linked together ?

Side note has anyone noticed the empire, the costumes ( same guy as VS/FF 12 ) very similiar to Ivalice just dif story and names ? I'm guessing Yoshi has the power to make this so even though it's Yaz creation ?

All Final Fantasy games are their own universe, there is no "canon" like you would find in the Marvel universe or the like, because there is no connection other that poor excuses for crossovers. Ravana is canon in FFXIV, and nothing else so far (as far as I'm aware anyway). As for their armour, it is very similar but again, that's a mere reference and nothing more.

Wow, I'm an idiot, you mean Vagrant Story, how did I miss that? D: But again, Ravana is just a reference and it's not the same Ravana from VS. All Final Fantasy games are their own thing. There are even references to Berserk in FFXIV, but that does not mean Berserk is now canon in FFXIV, just a reference. :p

SE came out ages ago and said FFXIV has nothing to do with FFXII or the Ivalice games, or FFXI, FFXIII or any other FF game for that matter - it simply reuses certain names and ideas as fanservice references, nothing more. It was stated in an early Letter From the Producer Live recap which sadly has since disappeared (formerly found here), but I saved the post by Bayohne in question for posterity:

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Q55: There are a lot of names from Ivalice such as Dalmasca, Belias, and Zodiak that have been mentioned, is there some connection between Hydaelyn and Ivalice?

A55: To be absolutely clear, there is no connection between FFXIV’s Hydaelyn and FFXII’s Ivalice. Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel. Each are their own individual world. Based on this, there are connections between the things that appear in the world, and we’ll be revealing more in the future.

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So there you have it - FFXIV is full of references to past FF games but is not directly connected to any one FF game, it is it's own unique world, setting and storyline.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

By VS do you mean Final Fantasy Versus XIII? That has now been renamed to FFXV, and is its own game. All Final Fantasy games are their own universe, there is no "canon" like you would find in the Marvel universe or the like, because there is no connection other that poor excuses for crossovers. Ravana is canon in FFXIV, and nothing else so far (as far as I'm aware anyway). As for their armour, it is very similar but again, that's a mere reference and nothing more.

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Well...that's only half true.

The Fabula Nova Crystallis is technically a single universe (or multiverse). Games like FFXIII, FFXV and even Bravely Default are part of it.

She first appeared in vagrant story ( = vs ) which prior to this game was sorta 50/50 being an official FF title, around the time of Ivalice alliance and FF 12 etc, it kinda sorta became canon but originally was not supposed to be, so I'm trying to figure out here if both vagrant story is officially 100% FF Ivalice now ( or a side Ivalice like FFT ), and that XIV is now connected to VS and Ivalice.

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Originally Posted by Revenant9

( or a side Ivalice like FFTA/2 )

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Fixed that for you. I hate how people keep associating Tactics with Tactics Advance, the two are about as related as Spirits Within is to Advent Children.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Fixed that for you. I hate how people keep associating Tactics with Tactics Advance, the two are about as related as Spirits Within is to Advent Children.

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That's debatable going by the ultimania which is official.

Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift (Main Game)
Final Fantasy Tactics
Vagrant Story (not an official Final Fantasy title)
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift (Prologue & Epilogue)

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...e_Timeline.jpg

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Well...that's only half true.

The Fabula Nova Crystallis is technically a single universe (or multiverse). Games like FFXIII, FFXV and even Bravely Default are part of it.

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It's not even that - it was basically an attempt by Yoshinori Kitase and Tetusya Nomura to 'reboot' FF canon by creating a whole new set of mythologies, ideas and references individual FF development teams could make use of. Naturally this didn't work well as they had hoped, and it has only been officially used for FFXIII and it's sequels, and FF Type 0. FFXV was originally meant to use it as well (when it was being developed as FF Versus XIII, but it was shawn of the last vestiges of Faubula Nova Crystallis recently when it was announced that it will no longer be featuring the goddess Etro and some other remaining FNC concepts were removed. Either way, it's now little more than the mythology for FFXIII and it's tie ins.

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Originally Posted by Revenant9

She first appeared in vagrant story ( = vs ) which prior to this game was sorta 50/50 being an official FF title, around the time of Ivalice alliance and FF 12 etc, it kinda sorta became canon but originally was not supposed to be, so I'm trying to figure out here if both vagrant story is officially 100% FF Ivalice now ( or a side Ivalice like FFT ), and that XIV is now connected to VS and Ivalice.

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Read the edit to my earlier post - SE have officially said FFXIV has nothing to do with the Ivalice games/FFXII or any other FF game. It just uses names and concepts as fanservice references. In some respects, this makes FFXIV similar to FFIX in concept, which also was full of fanservice to past FF games.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Well...that's only half true.

The Fabula Nova Crystallis is technically a single universe (or multiverse). Games like FFXIII, FFXV and even Bravely Default are part of it.

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Not true actually, the The Fabula Nova Crystallis is just a set of guidelines for the game to follow for their background lore. The universes are in no way connected.

Source.

To make matters worse SE may have some different views on this vs yaz himself also.


HPF_LD J A M
@YasumiMatsuno Forgive me if this seems rude, but do you think that you will possibly return to crafting the grand world of Ivalice one day?
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YasumiMatsuno 松野 泰己
@ @HPF_LD sorry. I overlooked your reply. VS and FFT is not the same place. but it's my thought and may be different from the publisher.
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Zodiak_Brave Ben Zack
@ @YasumiMatsuno So,I'm now seriously wondering if he lied or if you changed your mind because Ivalice is no more like you wanted it to be.thx
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松野 泰己 @Zodiak_Brave T and 12 are the same world. but VS is not. It was my original plan that I wanted to say. and it's different from advertising.

Characters from different games with the same name have been different entities with the exception of a few like GREG and in some cases Omega and Shinryu.

They had said Ravana was an original summon monster for XIV so he is his own thing.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Not true actually, the The Fabula Nova Crystallis is just a set of guidelines for the game to follow for their background lore. The universes are in no way connected.

Source.

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Yeah, I worded that wrong. I know it was a set of guidelines. What I did not know is that it was scrapped for FFXV, in fact I believed that FNC was taken more seriously by Square devs.

"Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel"

Except of course the recent event where someone from Vana'diel turned up and the entire questline was about them

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Originally Posted by randysquirrel

"Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel"

Except of course the recent event where someone from Vana'diel turned up and the entire questline was about them

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Connection =/= (Literal) Cross-Over
Multiverse exists, thus, people crossing over from different realities (for events' sake).

FFXIV is its own universe, as it is for every other FF game.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Well...that's only half true.

The Fabula Nova Crystallis is technically a single universe (or multiverse). Games like FFXIII, FFXV and even Bravely Default are part of it.

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What? How is Bravely Default a part of that series? It's not even a Final Fantasy title but a spin-off.

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Originally Posted by randysquirrel

"Likewise there is no connection with FFXI’s Vana’diel"

Except of course the recent event where someone from Vana'diel turned up and the entire questline was about them

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Interdimensional travel spell. These kinds of events shouldn't be taken so seriously.

like with a lot of the primals, Ravana is a mythological deity

The similarities you may see between vagrant story and ffxiv Ravanas would be because they are both based on the "real" Ravana
Even his personality of not seeing mortals as a threat allowing them to defeat him is borrowed from original Ravana mythology