Why did we let SE get away with this... (Favor system)

I'm going to apologize ahead of time. I've been gathering red scrips the past few weeks, build up a decent amount of tokens, and so today, i finally decided to start gathering the favor items so i could start crafting 2 star items (got 2 star crafting with food), and this Favor system is insane.

You have to get favors for a specific class AND a specific zone, which is horrible. I even "prep the node" so i can get a head start, and the RNG on these nodes appearing is ludicrous, for the 5 minutes you get to gather per favor. I literally just had a situation where i had only ONE concealed node appear for the 5 minutes the Favor was up.

Why did we not completely boycott this so they would have to change it? I mean, even more than they already did (I know it was 15 minutes with a much lower spawn rate when it launched with 3.05). I mean, its a time sink, added to a time sink, on an existing time sink...

I hope posting this doesnt get me in trouble with SE...but i just feel that they REALLY need to make some changes to this system...and soon...I mean outside of the nerf it will get when they implement Green Scrips or something.

Sorry. That was my bad. I could've stopped them but I didn't.

LOL!

Its just such a ludicrous system. I understand they wanted to add some longevity to it...but this really just seems like overkill...

Although its a small sample size, I find myself normally getting 18-25 of the normal ones and 1-2 of the HQ ones for every 5 favors.

My wife and I average around 3.5 items per favor. We ran 40+ favors this weekend between the two of us, to get the mats for craft sixteen (8 each) il170 crafting/gathering accessories for ourselves. Not bad at all, really.

Certainly a lot better than it was before they tripled the amount of mats you got.

TL;DR: I don't mind the favor system at all. It's better than at launch, and it doesn't stop us from doing what we want.

Favors system is still trash and will always be trash. I am far more in favor of the old system of running coil to get the mats when making the i110 gear. The beast tribe for the sealants was a decent idea also on the crafted set. Flying in circle for 5 minutes praying to rng was the dumbest possible idea they could have come up with. Though as you can see I am not a fan of it, it took my gf and self 10ish weeks from the first week of red scrips to grind out a full i170 crafting set for all 8 classes and several of her 8 crafters. After that we just flat burned out on it. Now we have rather epic gear and nothing worthy of crafting.

Favors to me are like.... why spend my red scrips on that when I can get the red scrip gathering gear?
I did do a few of the favors, since I have a few left over after getting the sets, and....sure made me some good money.

Which is easier nowadays, favors or steel spoils to buy the favor items?

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Originally Posted by Millen1

Favors system is still trash and will always be trash.

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One man's trash is another man's profit center. Feel free to not run Favors. And thanks! :)

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Originally Posted by Callback

Which is easier nowadays, favors or steel spoils to buy the favor items?

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In my experience, from time point of view, Favors. In 90 minutes of Diadem you can get only a few Steel Spoils, which will buy you tokens for NQ or HQ. OTOH, I can run 10+ Favors in that time, getting 35 or so token for NQ and a random number of tokens for HQ. Even adding in the time it takes to generate the Red Gather's Scrip, I think Favors are the better way. Of course, I actually enjoy running favors, so that's also a factor.

YMMV, of course. And if you are doing Diadem for the Mistbreak gear, then the Favor mats could be a nice bonus.

Corrected: I confused Steel and Brass Spoils. Favors are definitely better.

We highly complained and SE reduced the Favor time from 15 mins to 5 mins... and tripled the proc-rate. I once got 12 Black Swan Feathers in just 1 Favor... a 15 min favor, but that was nice. I agree, I rarely get 20 mats per Favor these days, I usually just use my Steel Spoils to make up for the difference or buy them on the MB, when the only way to get these mats were Favors it was MUCH worse!

Favor system is in a good place. Before there were rarely any favor mats up on the mb, and when they were, they were overpriced. Now gatherers and crafters can benefit from the favor system by supplying mats to crafter and gear to gatherers.

I started scrip gathering rather late. Like I was both MIN and BOT 60 before I started. Working on my last regional folklore book and the pickaxe. Once I have the book I see no further need for blue scrip save to get bait for my fisher alt if I ever get off my butt and finish 2.55 with her.

But this favor stuff... it seems kinda time intensive what with getting red scrip and buying favors and THEN doing the favor runaround dance. Not that its hard to cap red scrip or that the favors take a lot of it. And from what I read in this thread its profitable.

So my question about favors is is it fun? Is it an interesting challenge? Or is it more frustrating than anything? I realize this is highly subjective. As a perspective on me, I consider Furrymint and Clary Sage an interesting challenge but not fun.

It's like grinding eso tomes: neither fun or challenging.

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Originally Posted by Jade-Nephrite

We highly complained and SE reduced the Favor time from 15 mins to 5 mins... and tripled the proc-rate. I once got 12 Black Swan Feathers in just 1 Favor... a 15 min favor, but that was nice. I agree, I rarely get 20 mats per Favor these days, I usually just use my Steel Spoils to make up for the difference or buy them on the MB, when the only way to get these mats were Favors it was MUCH worse!

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Poor Jade ;-; I will try and help you out when I can. ❤️

I ended up reading one of Caimie's guides online and I don't hate the favor system quite so much now. I was able to get more materials per favor, so now I can generally get enough materials for 2 turn in per 5 favors, it just took reading up a little more. Some prepwork, and avoiding death by wandering Dragon!
And I can even sell some of the extras I get if I want.
I still think it is an overly convoluted system, but it's something I can deal with. And thankfully I have enough turn in stored away to cap red scrips for the next 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by konage

It's like grinding eso tomes: neither fun or challenging.

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The challenge is finding the motivation to do it. I haven't run an expert roulette in many weeks, despite still needing most of my eso gear.

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Originally Posted by Callback

The challenge is finding the motivation to do it. I haven't run an expert roulette in many weeks, despite still needing most of my eso gear.

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I'm exactly the same, the gear isn't needed or anything exciting. Heck, much of it isn't even pretty to look at. If I was doing Savage then I'd make effort to get all i210 & complete the Relic last stage but I'm not. I thought Void Ark may have spiced it up but nope.

As for red scrips, I'm not anywhere near lvl60 for crafting & I've not been one to enjoy "star" crafting anyway so DoL red gear isn't essential either yet. It's like they put it in too early or forgot to put in a reason for it.

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Originally Posted by MeridaQ

Poor Jade ;-; I will try and help you out when I can. ❤️

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Thanx! I could use all the help I can get these days :) I'll be buying up Favor mats by the 100's soon to put my 137 Red Crafting Tokens to use!