Are you kidding with the Wayward Hatchling Plushie?

I didn't see a thread about this yet but... What?

The hatchling lamp may be lost under the following conditions:

If it is removed from the estate by the owner or another player.
If the owner leaves, or is discharged from, the free company.
When losing access to a shared estate.
In the event that the estate is demolished.

So, am I reading this right? A BUY-ABLE furnishing with REAL MONEY .... CAN'T be removed from the estate? Are you joking?

It's totally like primal furniture and yes it sucks.

A lot of furniture is like this. I had to demolish my Tidal fount when I switched servers and it was worth 5 mil at the time.

Oh, look, the totally amazing and not pointless and stupid removal thing on certain furnishings is now on an actual paid piece of furniture, how cool.

/clap

Psst, that's sarcasm. Hey, SE, can you remove this stupid and utterly pointless "feature" on furnishings please? Would be awfully kind, sane and reasonable of you.

It's kinda sucky in that if you move houses you'll lose it, especially for a rare item, but it's like that to prevent ppl from reselling a normally untradable item I'd imagine.
I'm not sure how they'd get around that since any furnishing / airship part that's "binding" isn't truly bound unless it's destroyed on removal.

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Originally Posted by hqdm

It's kinda sucky in that if you move houses you'll lose it, especially for a rare item, but it's like that to prevent ppl from reselling a normally untradable item I'd imagine.
I'm not sure how they'd get around that since any furnishing / airship part that's "binding" isn't truly bound unless it's destroyed on removal.

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Bind it to the character so that only they can remove it from that one place that the one trick can be done, then they can't use it to make furnishings that are binding be "traded" at all.

I'm sure they can figure something simple like that out, then this obnoxious limitation can go.

I think people are misreading. They added a new warning that furniture can be lost under the new conditions of house sharing as well as some old ones. This is a separate and different warning than the one associated with place-only furniture such as primal stuff. This warning pops up for everything now and does NOT mean you can't retrieve the piece.

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Originally Posted by WinterLuna

A lot of furniture is like this. I had to demolish my Tidal fount when I switched servers and it was worth 5 mil at the time.

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Yes. A lot of furniture is like this, but furniture you pay REAL LIFE MONEY on? Yeah. No thanks, I really hope they didn't mean it'll be gone/break like other "special" furnishings.

Thats dumb. They need to remove this furniture removal crap.

Hey look...

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...83&oe=56D9EA0D

Its that same message...for an Oasis Dining Table (the Carby Chair also gives it)

This particular error began after Shared Housing started; it applies to all furnishings, not just those that break on removal.

There is a different error for items that can't be removed; if I had an item that did that laying around, I'd take a screenshot of that error.

EDIT: Lol, didn't realize that the FC line was in this; this is my personal house, leaving my FC won't do anything to my stuff

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Originally Posted by PArcher

Its that same message...for an Oasis Dining Table (the Carby Chair also gives it)
This particular error began after Shared Housing started; it applies to all furnishings, not just those that break on removal.

There is a different error for items that can't be removed; if I had an item that did that laying around, I'd take a screenshot of that error.
EDIT: Lol, didn't realize that the FC line was in this; this is my personal house, leaving my FC won't do anything to my stuff

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They really need to reword this then. They specifically said: If it is removed from the estate by the owner or another player. That makes me believe, as the purchaser, if removed by the owner if the item, it will be lost.

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Originally Posted by Zephrey

So, am I reading this right? A BUY-ABLE furnishing with REAL MONEY .... CAN'T be removed from the estate? Are you joking?

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You not really spending real money to get the furnishing unless you don't care about the RL item the plushie and just buying it for the item. It just a bonus you get for buying the plushie.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

You not really spending real money to get the furnishing unless you don't care about the RL item the plushie and just buying it for the item. It just a bonus you get for buying the plushie.

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That still doesn't change the fact that the only way to get it is by spending RL money.
Bonus or not, it's an item they're saying you can lose if it's removed from the estate. I'd like to keep all I paid for and not half of it.

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Originally Posted by Zephrey

That still doesn't change the fact that the only way to get it is by spending RL money.
Bonus or not, it's an item they're saying you can lose if it's removed from the estate. I'd like to keep all I paid for and not half of it.

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Doubt it, pretty sure someone will be selling it in game in PF and someone with ton of gil will be able to buy it off another player that way.

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Originally Posted by hqdm

It's kinda sucky in that if you move houses you'll lose it, especially for a rare item, but it's like that to prevent ppl from reselling a normally untradable item I'd imagine.
I'm not sure how they'd get around that since any furnishing / airship part that's "binding" isn't truly bound unless it's destroyed on removal.

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Who cares if someone wants to give away or trade an item they paid for? And it's not like there aren't other Mog Station items that can be traded already.

If they removed the destroy on pick-up, the absolute worst scenario I can think of is an FC mate or tenant with furnishing privileges picking it up and stealing it, and in that scenario: A) Easily preventable by not giving access to untrustworthy people. B) They could just as easily destroy the furnishing with the current system! And what would you care whether they stole it or destroyed it, either way you lose the item you paid real life money for.

The destroy on pick-up system has always been pretty silly, but this is just unacceptable.

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Originally Posted by Zephrey

They really need to reword this then. They specifically said: If it is removed from the estate by the owner or another player. That makes me believe, as the purchaser, if removed by the owner if the item, it will be lost.

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Not really. It doesn't say "removing this item will result in its destruction" (like I'm 99% sure items that do this say when you place them), it says "these actions may result in the loss of the item", and lists a set that can lose it instantly (tenant/FC member removing the item from the house, or leaving an FC and the item is in the FC house), or after a set period of time (failing to reclaim it from the salvager or whatever he's called after being discharged from an FC [and you owned a Private room] or your house being demolished after the disuse period [personal house]. Think you have a month or two to get your stuff back from him).

As for your quote...if you remove the item from your house, and accidentally vendor it or throw it away...you've just the item :P Sorry, had to point out the obvious there.


EDIT: You should also update your OP, so you stop spreading misinformation. Met another BLM today that said their AoE is useless (in this case, everything at the beginning of Pharos Hard...which is what, 10 mobs or so?) because Fire IV is higher base potency than Fire II and that's what he read on Reddit.

I used to, if not defend, at least understand the "Destroy on pickup" items. It keeps rare items rare. People who get the rare drops can sell them for tons of gil, or craft the rare furnishing and make even more gil. The people who get the furnishings are satisfied that they have someyhing not many others do.

This is not worth it. Avoiding somewhat upsetting a handful of people who won't get as much gil off the marketboard, or won't feel as special with their rare items, is not worth pissing off the thousands of players who just want to use their houses without being punished.

Please remove "destroyed on pickup" from the game. It is an outdated feature that does far more harm than good.