Anima weapon lore

So what is the lore are the anima weapons am not looking for the actual questline lore am looking for lore of each specific weapon.

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Originally Posted by liljramos88

So what is the lore are the anima weapons am not looking for the actual questline lore am looking for lore of each specific weapon.

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Well, the weapons are newly created in the questline, so their lore is the questline's lore. They're not relics like the 2.0 relic, they're weapons freshly created and designed during the quest.

Oh OK thanks haven't finish mine so I wasn't sure thought maybe there was a lore behind them. Ty I know that most are inspired things. Any ideas I know daneb is a star or something like that

Yeah, it's a star in the Cygnus constellation.

Nothung (the DRK weapon) is another name for Gram / Balmung, sword of Seigfried from the Nibelung mythos.

Not sure about the other ones, since I know not their names.

Here's what I remember of the weapons:

• Rhongomiant: One of King Authur's Weapons, predictably less famous than Excalibur. It is a lance
• Nothung: Yet another name for Gram, Sigured Sword. I think it was the named used in Wagner's Ring Cycle
• Deneb: Brightest star in Cygnus, and one of the 3 points of the Summer Triangle (the other two also lent their names to weapons in Qarn and Aurum Vale)
• Armageddon: Typical end of the world stuff. Speficilay a final battle between God and Satan. Greek Translation of the word Revelation
• Draconomicon: Take Lovecraft's Necronomicon and adapt it to dragons
• Tetrabiblos: forgot aout that, but I do know the name translated into 4 Book essentialy
• Majestas: Some sort of law
• Ukonvasara: A weapon of a Finnish or Hindu god I think (thought that might be Verethragna instead)
• Almace: Like Curtana, it is a sword form the Song of Roland
• Hervelgmyr: I think it has something to do with yggdrasil's roots and a certain Dragoon-bodysnatching dragon
• Verethragna: See Ukonvasara
• Gandiva: Bow of Arjuna, Hindu hero

Side note is that they are also the names of XI's Emperyan weapons (some of them at least)

Also The weapons that become these weapons are esstentialy the Eso weapons, (Which are antiquated) so unless Rowena had these made around the calamity, I think there might be some history to them, but unlike the relics it is preety irrelevant (plus if Rowena is selling them, then chances are they aren't as unique as the Relics anyway)

Anyone notice the manifestation of Anima looked very much like an Elemental?

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Anyone notice the manifestation of Anima looked very much like an Elemental?

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I noticed that as well.
Makes you wonder if there's some sort of connection/relation between that pseudo-soul and the Elementals as a whole...

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

• Draconomicon: Take Lovecraft's Necronomicon and adapt it to dragons

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I just discovered something about the Draconomicon that may or may not be relevant to those wondering about the real-world inspirations for the latest line of relics.

The Draconomicon was an actual source and rules book about dragons published by TSR (acquired later by Wizards of the Coast). The first version, based on Advanced Dungeon & Dragons 2nd Edition rules was published in 1990, as a supplement to the Forgotten Realms campaign setting. Later editions were published in 2003 and 2008.

Here's my reason for why this is relevant, and not just simple coincidence:

• The mythological Bahamut is an elephant-headed fish of epic, world-spanning proportions. It is said to carry a bull on its back, and on the bull, "a ruby mountain; on the mountain, an angel; the angel holds and supports the seven earths".

• Bahamut as a dragon, or more specifically the Platinum Dragon, was an invention of TSR writers, from as far back as 1975. And, it was in 1990, with the publication of the Draconomicon, that Bahamut was first classified as a deity of the good-aligned "metallic" dragons (gold, silver, bronze, brass, etc).

• As we all know, Final Fantasy drew references from a variety of sources to create its own, now iconic, multiple-title-spanning mythology. The idea of Bahamut as a mighty wyrm most likely came from Dungeon & Dragons.

• And given Bahamut's major influence on the new post-50 summoner storyline, it seems fitting that the new summoner relic would not just make reference to its owner's brush with the Dreadwyrm, but also to the venerable franchise that spawned the original Dragon King.


So, there you have it. I'm not suggesting, of course, that any of this has to be true. But it's fun to think about: an FFXIV relic inspired by a modern myth. ;)

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Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar

Anyone notice the manifestation of Anima looked very much like an Elemental?

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I certainly have. It makes me believe that the elementals were created, if not then they could be using the same assests

http://imgur.com/1a14kVo
http://i.imgur.com/eWg8dvZ.png?1

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Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

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Rarely brought-up fact: I's bestiary was taken from Dungeons and Dragons almost wholesale.

I think it's just old assets recycled rather than having a connection with the elementals

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

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i'd like to add to this list that the shield that comes with Amlace: Ancile, is derived from Ancilla, twelve shields kept in the temple of mars.

and tetrabiblos supposedly means "four parts." it was a text on astrology, if wikipedia is to be believed.

Heres a portion of what wikipedia has to say:

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Tetrabiblos is a text on the philosophy and practice of astrology, written in the 2nd century AD by the Alexandrian scholar Claudius Ptolemy (c. AD 90–c. AD 168).

Ptolemy's Almagest was an authoritative text on astronomy for more than a thousand years, and the Tetrabiblos, its companion volume, was equally influential in astrology, the study of the effects of astronomical cycles on earthly matters. But whilst the Almagest as an astronomical authority was superseded by acceptance of the heliocentric model of the solar system, the Tetrabiblos remains an important theoretical work for astrology.

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So basically Scholars are studying astrology now.

For anyone interested, Ethys Asher did Eorzea Armoire entries for both Tetrabiblos and the Draconomicon in the last week.

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Originally Posted by Saiah

So basically Scholars are studying astrology now.

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Seeking a book level knowledge of it, at least, to add to their repertoire of strategies. Fits the idea of being a Scholar, at least, to seek out knowledge like that.

I have a bit of a question about the Anima lore!

So the whole thing about the weapon is that it's a living soul enshrined in a weapon, sentient to the point where it has a gender, and the Awoken stage has that soul spilling out and undulating around the weapon itself. Any dual weapons (Monk, Ninja, Paladin, etc) naturally have the effect around both models; while it's certainly not two different souls (as cool as that would be), what does that mean for the one that's in two? Is it divided or split in some way?

I know the answer is that the writers just didn't bother writing a separate bit of of lore for dual and single weapons, but it's interesting to speculate about.

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Seeking a book level knowledge of it, at least, to add to their repertoire of strategies. Fits the idea of being a Scholar, at least, to seek out knowledge like that.

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It make sense. Parties have to know what jobs can benefit the most form the Astrologian's cards and that is an aspect of strategy and tactics, both things being the Scholar's niche of knowedge, thus the Scholars would want to know how the cards work to help use them effectively

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Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji

I have a bit of a question about the Anima lore!

So the whole thing about the weapon is that it's a living soul enshrined in a weapon, sentient to the point where it has a gender, and the Awoken stage has that soul spilling out and undulating around the weapon itself. Any dual weapons (Monk, Ninja, Paladin, etc) naturally have the effect around both models; while it's certainly not two different souls (as cool as that would be), what does that mean for the one that's in two? Is it divided or split in some way?

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The possibilities are threefold:

1. The pseudosoul that inhabits the Anima weapon is split, and should manifest as two separate entities. (It happens again after you complete the Anima weapon proper, just FYI, though there it's clarified that apparently only you can see it. Or maybe the Warrior of Light's PTSD is finally catching up to them and causing a hallucination?)
2. Similar to 1 above, except the pseudosoul is one being; it simply requires both pieces to be in close proximity to gain consciousness.
3. (Most likely possibility) Since the pseudosoul that inhabits our Anima weapon is kept in a single soulstone, or something akin to it, the soulstone is simply kept in one of the pieces and the pseudosoul can manifest and retain its consciousness without the other piece.

Bumping for relevance! After completing your 230 relic, we get this gem from the Anima itself:

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Originally Posted by Anima

So warm...
At last I feel...myself. You would share your aether─the very essence of your being─to support me?
Then I, in turn, shall do all that I can to support you, going wheresoever you go, even unto the farthest reaches of the realm. If, that is, you will you take me as your companion...?

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To reiterate on what happened in the previous quests, the Anima had sentience, but lacked the ability to speak coherently. Likewise, only the Warrior of Light can see and speak with the Anima being due to their abilities with the Echo. Ardashir speculates that if they keep feeding aether to the Anima, it can become strong enough to be more self aware and be able to communicate with non-Echo people.

So now we have an aetherial being that wants to help us in exchange for maintaining its form with our own essence. Give and take.

For the relic weapons real life counter parts, inspiration legends and folklore you should check out the youtuber "Ethys Asher." This man has done a shit ton of research on the games relic weapons real life inspirations, plus his story telling voice makes me think of a white Morgan Freeman.

Here's the latest entry from Ardashir's journal about the hypercontductive relic:

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Originally Posted by Arashir's Journal

Though still unintelligible, it would appear the anima has been attempting to communicate with Miles. Yet the answer to why only he could speak with it still eluded me.

As an analysis of the anima had yielded no answers thus far, I decided to focus my efforts on investigating Miles and his past exploits.

It was then I discovered that he possesses a power known as the Echo. Without this unique ability, none save Miles─and perhaps a few others like him─could see or speak with the anima.

He and his aetherial companion are not unlike a mage and his arcane sentry, and that is precisely how I realized the solution to our problem. We had to increase the conductivity of the anima weapon, thereby amplifying the transmission of aether from Miles to the anima.

Though Gerolt was confident in his ability to enhance the anima weapon, it was not without risk. Increased conductivity would render the weapon highly sensitive to nearby sources of aetherial energy. As a result, Gerolt could have inadvertently gained some level of attunement with it before completing his work. Unless, of course, his tools could be insulated to prevent said attunement. Much to my surprise, he had a solution.

Apparently he developed a technique called soul glazing while working on a older weapon commissioned by Miles. Though he lacked the materials required, he was certain that aether oil, a substance of Allagan creation, would make for a suitable substitute.

As to be expected, however, he failed to research where exactly this aether oil could be found. Thankfully, no task is too great for Miles. Through what I can only assume is an advanced network of merchants and brokers, he procured five bottles of oil.

Gerolt's soul glazing worked flawlessly, and the hyperconductive anima weapon pulsed with newfound strength. The moment was perfect. That is, until Gerolt brought out that unsightly Allagan contraption. Exploiting Allagan technology to slake his insatiable thirst for alcohol is a new low even for him.

Gerolt's self-indulgence aside, today was a success. As the anima grows in strength, perhaps the day when I too can look upon it will soon be at hand.

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I really do hope they build more into this "living weapon" theme they have for the Anima weapons. Maybe allowing us to talk with our weapons from time to time? (Not just when the new relic quests begin again.) There is quite a few cool possibilities they could go with these.

I highly doubt it. It'll be just glorified flavor text during each quest.

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Originally Posted by Esp

I really do hope they build more into this "living weapon" theme they have for the Anima weapons. Maybe allowing us to talk with our weapons from time to time? (Not just when the new relic quests begin again.) There is quite a few cool possibilities they could go with these.

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As long as its not like Lilarcor...

It would be an interesting moral dilemma assuming 4.0's relic quest might force us to break it down into __ material for the new relic since this relic's goal is to have a sentient weapon

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Originally Posted by myahele

It would be an interesting moral dilemma assuming 4.0's relic quest might force us to break it down into __ material for the new relic since this relic's goal is to have a sentient weapon

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Only for its soul to survive anyway. Like "OMG WE THOUGHT YOU WERE GONE BUT YOU WERE SO NOT!" /Nanamo.

Personally, I'm hoping we at least get a minion out of it. But some sort of manifestation in battle would be cool too.

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Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji

Personally, I'm hoping we at least get a minion out of it. But some sort of manifestation in battle would be cool too.

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I can see it now. Void Ark with 24 Anima minions running around.

I want my relic to grow up into a big and strong Primal. I'll feed it as much blood and aether as is required to see that happen, and when it does I'm gonna take it to the summit of a big ass mountain and FIGHT IT TO THE DEATH! ... but that's probably just me. Having a "companion" is cool too, I guess.

I'm ambivalent about my weapon's personality developing. Sure it's all young and innocent now but before long it'll be a surly adult, keeping a beady eye on my rotation and offering nothing but relentless criticism.

Ok, so after you invest all 240 points, the Anima complains about feeling very heavy and Ulan mentions that it has reached the absolute limits of its power and a vessel must be made immediately or it will fade away. Once the new weapon is crafted, the Anima is surprised how light it feels all of a sudden and Gerolt and Ardashir can actually see the Anima. The Anima sees how overjoyed Ardashir is and thinks something is "wrong", suggesting to the Warrior of Light that perhaps they should make a new weapon for Ardashir and transfer him to it. It doesn't understand the concept of joy yet. Below is the latest journal entry regarding the events.

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Originally Posted by Ardashir's journal

As I write these words, it is all I can do to keep my hand steady. After all these years I have done it. Together with Miles's help I have created life through anima, and I have witnessed it with mine own eyes!

It all started with a visit to Idyllshire to seek the aid of a fellow researcher, Ulan. An authority on the study of arcane entities, the focus of her current work is the augmentation of Carbuncles. In fact, she has developed a technique utilizing ground crystals to facilitate their growth. I hypothesized─nay, I hoped this technique could be applied to our anima.

My hopes were nearly dashed, however, when she spoke of the delicate balance of elements required for the procedure. The slightest misstep would have meant the loss of all we had worked for.

Her methods were well refined, but would take weeks, even months for me to comprehend, let alone master. But then she proposed an arrangement: in exchange for literature and supplies to supplement her research, she would personally help augment the anima.

Our plan was more successful than I could have hoped. So much so, that the anima could no longer subsist in its current vessel. Thankfully, I suspected that may be the case and commissioned a new weapon from Gerolt.

With the soulstone stable in its new vessel, our work appeared to be finished. That is, until the anima appeared before us. A moment I shall never forget. 'Twas like an angel sent from on high, radiant as starlight. Never in my life have I felt so much joy.

What was once theory is now reality, and I could not have done it without Gerolt and Miles. Now that the anima has taken shape for all the world to see, I feel my research is nearly complete.

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People are already done with it?! Man... I musta wasted more time than I thought leveling WAR for... research... yes.

Only at +45/115 DET...

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Originally Posted by Cilia

People are already done with it?! Man... I musta wasted more time than I thought leveling WAR for... research... yes.

Only at +45/115 DET...

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Let's just say halfway through I didn't want to do it casually anymore and grinded my butt off.

Finally finished my Guillotine of the Tyrant! And before Deus Ex: Mankind Divided releases!

... it was kind of interesting. The Anima insisted on growing stronger despite it being risky, and it seems to develop a personality as you go on. I'm curious as to whether or not its statements change depending on what stats you level up, but unless they nerf the quest into the ground there's no way I'm doing that again. (I'd like the MCH gun, depending on what the 240 ver. looks like, but I've not seen anyone with one.)

Nah, my Anima pretty much acted the same way of wanting to grow stronger for my own sake and I used the WHM relic.

Well I figured as much, since the halfway point is where the Anima starts expressing its own will to grow stronger for you and occurs regardless of what class you're on.

What I meant was the quotes that show up when you look at it with the Anima Glass or use the sand, i.e. my Anima started saying stuff like "More... I must have more." "Will we return to the woman soon? I wish to use more sand." etc. I doubt it's different, but inquiring minds gotta know!

I'll try and keep a running tally of responses and update later - right now, with the Bard weapon, at 18 points in (yeah, yeah I'm behind on it)...she says things like:

"When will we use the sand again?"
"Should I become swifter, or perhaps more attentive?"
"Have I...changed somehow?"

Right now seems to cycle through just those three.

Just as long as they don't have the Allagans being the ones that created them, enough of that plot device already.

They're hybrid Allagan tech, according to Gerolt, made with some input from the nodes around Azys Lla. It would be a much bigger deal if he could make something like that without needing enough alcohol in his system to kill an ordinary man.