Man made race.

OK I know the Allag genetically messed around with creatures. Chimera, lamias, and others. But is there any info on Allags genetically altering their own DNA creating another race.(that could possibly be another expansion)

Outside of Lamia and Ixali, we haven't heard of any intelligent races being created by the Allagans. That isn't to say it couldn't happen. It would be the logical conclusion of their genetic experiments, after all.

They did screw around with their own DNA a lot. All the bosses in the Crystal Tower were Allagans with heavily modified genes or were clones or both. After all, Queen Scylla almost certainly wasn't born looking like that.

As for it there are any chimeric races out there born from modified Allagan DNA specifically, we have no solid proof though its perfectly possible and I would think quite likely. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we found out Miqote or Lalafel were a result of chimeric modification.

Miqote had ancestors at the time of the Allag in servant roles (thanks again to Crystal Tower), came from Myricedia that was occupied by the Allag at the time, and the Allag did create chimeric creations for civilian purposes so the creation of a 'pet' servant race wouldn't surprise me in the least. Plus Miqote cultures seem to actually mirror aspects of wild cat family dynamics.

For Lalafel, there is not much but there is that weird thing you can fish up in Azys Lla that seems to have Lalafel skin...

Thanks was wondering outside of crystal tower what other Allag creations were out there. Would love to see another race be added in a future expansion wich we're made by Allah(merfolk, maybe even a insectoid race) anyways what other intelligent beings we're made with the Allah. I really like the so many possibilities of allags using own DNA.

Some Gigas in Mor Dhona claim they are descended from the Allagans (leves). Other Gigas were shown to believe the Crystal Tower is a holy relic of sorts in their lore. Then there is still no back story to why Gigas began appearing out of the ground in Copperbell mines. Asside from saying they are now free from their masters. Lalafell? Then that ruined door in the boss room seems to be part of a structure separate from the mine.

Then there was the appearance of Mamool Ja in the Crystal tower and World of Darkness for some odd reason. The dragons in CT were probably mindless engineered stock from Azyzla long after Mercydia fell.

Allagan bio-engineered races? Well we're absolutely certain the Ixal are degraded versions of Iksalion encountered in the Fractal Continuum; one of the Ehcatl Nine even has new dialogue after Azys Lla (Ayatlan). There's also strong hints that the Gigas of Mor Dhona and the Vanu are also Allagan creations - the Gigas worship the Crystal Tower, and the Vanu considered protecting the key to Azys Lla a sacred task, suggesting the Allagans made them as guardians of the Tower and Azys Lla, respectively. We also know they somehow synthesized Voidsent, but just how you can make an artificial demon is beyond me...

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Originally Posted by Cilia

...We also know they somehow synthesized Voidsent, but just how you can make an artificial demon is beyond me...

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Well they were supposed to be this sci-fi uptopian socitity before their fall, which means that had access to lots of advanced tech. Plus we have confirmation of cloning, so it's likely that they started from there.

For reference the Voidsent found in Allagan ruins are:

• Chimerae: Fractal and Azys Lla
• Nagas: Fractal and Azls Lla
• Gargoyles: Labyrinth
• Succubi: Labyrinth
• Lamiae: Dalamud and Azys Lla
• Bombs: Labyrinth
• Dullahans: Maybe Labyrinth, Fractal and Azys Lla too (those could be robots and the Garleans did bring their colossi along)
• Ahrimans: Labyrinth

Those are all the voidsent I can think of there (I'm discounting T6 due to it actually being outside the Dalamud fragment [plus there no Voidsent there anyway] as well as WoD due to thinking that none of the voidsent mobs there were bred by Allag)

Regarding the Giants, I should also point out the Renauds in T7

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Well they were supposed to be this sci-fi uptopian socitity before their fall, which means that had access to lots of advanced tech. Plus we have confirmation of cloning, so it's likely that they started from there.

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Well yeah, but when you think about "demon" (which may as well be a synonym for voidsent), it's generally possessed of a special essence that separates it from normal life-forms. Sure it's possible to replicate the physical form, but without an infernal spark, it's just a fake, like the difference between Echidna and various lamiae that inhabit Azys Lla (etc).

In regards to man-made races being playable in the future, with the tech we have now I'd expect to see something like the Warforged from Dungeons and Dragons' Eberron setting. While it took a considerable amount of effort, we've already synthesized a sentient soul. Unfortunately, considering how expensive the items just to make a weapon to house our Anima weapon's spirit is, making a fully-functional humanoid frame is out of the question except for all but the wealthiest people in the game story-wise (Rowena and Lolorito, basically), and those particular individuals are unlikely to make such a being out of the goodness of their hearts.

(Yes, like many people I am quite salty over the exorbitant amount of effort required to get an Anima weapon.)

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Well yeah, but when you think about "demon" (which may as well be a synonym for voidsent), it's generally possessed of a special essence that separates it from normal life-forms. Sure it's possible to replicate the physical form, but without an infernal spark, it's just a fake, like the difference between Echnidna and various lamiae that inhabit Azys Lla (etc).

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You forget that Xande made a deal with the Cloud of Darkness. It's possible that she might had given Xande and Amon the means to replicate that essence (or the essence itself)

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While it took a considerable amount of effort, we've already synthesized a sentient soul. Unfortunately, considering how expensive the items just to make a weapon to house our Anima weapon's spirit is, making a fully-functional humanoid frame is out of the question except for all but the wealthiest people in the game story-wise (Rowena and Lolorito, basically), and those particular individuals are unlikely to make such a being out of the goodness of their hearts.

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You're right those two are likely to have ulterior motives for such an endeavor. Rowena might go for this in an attempt to either make drones or a slave market (or both, note that the reaon were on Anima is because she is interested in making and selling sentient arms), plus the Tomes might have infomation on manikins like in Fractal. Lolorito or other unscrupulous Syndicate members might also go along with this endeavor for unpaid labor that woudn't have the same free will issues Amajina and Sons had with the hecatonchires or some sort of political plot later on or both.

Actuallynow that I think about it, we're the manikins of Dissidia copes of the FF heroes and villains? that might make potential applications more versed towards espionage, infiltration, and most likely impersonation and for Lolorito, one might be all he needs if he wants to regain his lost wealth (he gave half of it to Nanamo), or wants to undermine another group

Wait? This is a thread asking if any of the "Spoken Races" were allagan chimeras right?

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Some Gigas in Mor Dhona claim they are descended from the Allagans (leves). Other Gigas were shown to believe the Crystal Tower is a holy relic of sorts in their lore. Then there is still no back story to why Gigas began appearing out of the ground in Copperbell mines. Asside from saying they are now free from their masters. Lalafell? Then that ruined door in the boss room seems to be part of a structure separate from the mine.

Then there was the appearance of Mamool Ja in the Crystal tower and World of Darkness for some odd reason. The dragons in CT were probably mindless engineered stock from Azyzla long after Mercydia fell.

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Just a note.

The Gigas in Copperbell Mines were former slaves of the Uldah who were buried down there hundreds of years ago when they were no longer needed. No one expected them to still be alive until new digging in Copperbell unearthed them.

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The voidsents we saw on the Labyrinth of Ancients were true voidsents, not replicated ones by the allagans. I notice we can easly difference a true voidsent from an allag-made voidsent

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

The voidsents we saw on the Labyrinth of Ancients were true voidsents, not replicated ones by the allagans. I notice we can easly difference a true voidsent from an allag-made voidsent

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I agree, I was just listing the voidsent in general, but not all the manufactured ones had the same silver and cyan color scheme, (See the Azys Lla Chimeras). Come to think of it those colores were on the Mimics, the Snakes in T1 and T5, and the Avatar as well

Are we sure chimeras are voidsent tho? I thought they were just genetically-engineered monstrosities.

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Are we sure chimeras are voidsent tho? I thought they were just genetically-engineered monstrosities.

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It's entirely possible both are correct. Some may be genetic, such as the Allagan ones, though others, like the monster at the end of the lvl 50 BLM quest, were created by creatures being warped by void energies.

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It's entirely possible both are correct. Some may be genetic, such as the Allagan ones, though others, like the monster at the end of the lvl 50 BLM quest, were created by creatures being warped by void energies.

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The Ixalion are not syntetic voidsent, but they were created by the allagans. So the answer is yes.

They created new species using DNA of actual ones and syntenic voidsents. Common you guys didnt knnew this already? O.o

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Are we sure chimeras are voidsent tho? I thought they were just genetically-engineered monstrosities.

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Good point, But there were still Chimerae in WoD and one was explicitly summoned form the Void in the BLM level 60 quest

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Well yeah, but when you think about "demon" (which may as well be a synonym for voidsent), it's generally possessed of a special essence that separates it from normal life-forms. Sure it's possible to replicate the physical form, but without an infernal spark, it's just a fake, like the difference between Echidna and various lamiae that inhabit Azys Lla (etc).

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That's why it's called "synthetic" voidsent.