How to make money?!

I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this in. I've been level 60 for a while now but my Gil seems to go down a lot. Can anyone give me suggestions on how to make money in the game?

I have no experience of gathering and crafting classes so I guess this would be something to look into?

Can anyone give me some tips and pointers?

Well, I make a ton of money gathering:

1. Level up all gatherers (takes time and a few Netflix series)
2. Adamantite Ore with King's Yield II (that's 25/half hour if you are lucky) OR fish up big fish and sell them to starving CUL OR ....I don't know I hate botanist I literally only use it for scrips
3. ???
4. Profit

You make more money if you craft guaranteed but... the gil investment early on is higher. But the returns are better.

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Oh also
Never use materia, always sell it for fat stacks of gil.

I did start levelling botanist... Looks like I know what I'm doing tonight! I will be streaming Walking Dead and levelling then.

For botanist and miner - if it's log or ore or alumen - just level off of gathering those and selling them. HQ stacks in smaller numbers, NQ in full stacks. Should start you off nicely. The rest well you'll get there eventually.

Also if you are running duty roulettes you get gil from those and mob kills and such.

Brilliant, sounds like a plan then! Many thanks.

With crafting and gathering, it all depends on what you do really. They can also be HUGE money sucks if you don't do them correctly (i.e.-buy all materials on MB instead of gathering your own or asking friends). Even worse when your friends aren't online and you end up buying their materials on the MB (yea... happened to me a few times, but we always refund each other).

Myself, I'm a Culinarian and Fisher, which I think is a great combo. If you add in Botanist too, it's pretty much perfect (but my FC has like, 5 lvl 50+ botanists, sooo I just let them run around). But I can say, people love food. Get a decent level and make some of the higher stuff (heck, even the lower stuff still sells well honestly). I used to sell food on the MB, but lately, my FC has come up with a plan for stockpiling ourselves, but with only 2 CUL doing it and 20+ players... uh, I don't really have the mats or time to spare :P (but there is money to be made there).

Also, shards, crystals, catalysts ALWAYS sell. They are needed for crafter's. People are always crafting. Prices are almost always high due to people selling low but in huge stacks.

Me personally, I like using Fishing for majority of my retainer income. I've found a few fish that just sell on a very constant and stable basis. So I just keep those coming in with my retainer and selling them in small stacks of 3-5 usually. The problem with the Market Boards though is they differ from world to world. In mine, Bluebell Salmon, White Coral, Red Coral, and just about any shark sells nice and high constantly. Bluebell are a bit iffy though. They come and go (like, I won't sell any for a few days, then all of a sudden, people are buying up all of them).

How much money are you looking to make, exactly?

The big gils are definitely in crafting/gathering. But retainers can pretty easily give you a maintenance income. Airships can also have a decent return though that's not something a newbie can just get into.

Sell low level crafted gears (find those golden items on MB); sell glamours; do maps and sell what you get from them (or craft stuff from it) and sometimes just find that item that sells for a decent price on MB but that you can get VERY cheap from vendors.
Pretty much how I make moneys without much effort... I sell glamour items like 1 in 2 weeks and do irregularly maps... gave to FC funds for buying a house a decent amount of gil and have since stopped donating (until we actually need the money) made back almost same amount which is 4 weeks.

Also easy money: Do your challenge log; dungeons; roulettes

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

How much money are you looking to make, exactly?

The big gils are definitely in crafting/gathering. But retainers can pretty easily give you a maintenance income. Airships can also have a decent return though that's not something a newbie can just get into.

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About 2-3mil to keep on my character regularly. I usually end up spending money on glamours that I like. I just want pretty glamours. Haha, nothing too much! But it's annoying when I buy something and then end up broke for a while having no money for teleports and armour repair.

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Originally Posted by SinfulExistence

About 2-3mil to keep on my character regularly. I usually end up spending money on glamours that I like. I just want pretty glamours. Haha, nothing too much! But it's annoying when I buy something and then end up broke for a while having no money for teleports and armour repair.

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Keeping your retainer ventures churning will at least ensure you have money for teleports and repairs. The 18h ones give you Allagan pieces to convert to gil, quick ventures sometimes give nice items to sell.

Another player mentioned maps, which goes hand in hand with gathering. And glamor prisms. It's a bit of initial work to get gathering and crafting classes up but once there, maps, glamors, and selling low level gear (like the others suggested) can easily keep you in the 2-3 mil range.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Keeping your retainer ventures churning will at least ensure you have money for teleports and repairs. The 18h ones give you Allagan pieces to convert to gil, quick ventures sometimes give nice items to sell.

Another player mentioned maps, which goes hand in hand with gathering. And glamor prisms. It's a bit of initial work to get gathering and crafting classes up but once there, maps, glamors, and selling low level gear (like the others suggested) can easily keep you in the 2-3 mil range.

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Can you recommend any gathering or crafting classes? Literally have no idea where to start in regards to this!

Roulette's might be what you want to focus on some more. Should get you enough seals to keep up your venture coins to send your retainer's out on a constant basis. Also, if you craft, you can just make your own glamour prisms as needed. But that requires a high level crafter in each category you want, so that's not a quick fix by any means.

I consistently send my money so I've not gotten above 500k. But I also make about 50k-100k a day via my retainers selling items (I always have them selling 20 items on the MB and cycle through their prices constantly to ensure I'm selling quickly). I just buy things way too often. Doesn't help that I'm the lone gardener for my FC. We went through 100 krakka roots in about 3 days T_T I wish soil was easier to get, because they're expensive

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Originally Posted by SinfulExistence

Can you recommend any gathering or crafting classes? Literally have no idea where to start in regards to this!

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Crafting is a bit tricky as cross-class skills mean that, to do serious crafting, you pretty much need at least a few at 50 and all of them up at least somewhat. To make your own materials start to finish, you'd want them all to 50 (and eventually 60). Glamor prisms are also spread across them.

All that said. GSM is nice. It has items both pre-50 and endgame that sell well.

As far as gatherers go... Fishing destroys the soul. (On the other hand, some people love it, somehow...). If you level miner and botany (or even fishing) in parallel, you can share all gear except the weapon.

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Originally Posted by SinfulExistence

Can you recommend any gathering or crafting classes? Literally have no idea where to start in regards to this!

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Gathering is either actively do something on botanist/miner or afk fishing - if you have a controller use the vibration function to know when you got something hooked... between that watch a film/read a book/do phonecalls? For botany and mining you need to move from node to node and actively work on it. Fishing can be decent money if you use right baits for certain fishes that sell good (Silver Sharks; Hammerheads always sell but check xivdb.com if used in any recipies and your MB if worth to catch em en masse for each fish).

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Well, I make a ton of money gathering:

1. Level up all gatherers (takes time and a few Netflix series)
2. Adamantite Ore with King's Yield II (that's 25/half hour if you are lucky) OR fish up big fish and sell them to starving CUL OR ....I don't know I hate botanist I literally only use it for scrips
3. ???
4. Profit

You make more money if you craft guaranteed but... the gil investment early on is higher. But the returns are better.

Edit:
Oh also
Never use materia, always sell it for fat stacks of gil.

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Craft/gather materia has a use. I don't see how combat materia does considering there's no endgame stuff that even allows melding. Why does that stuff sell so high?

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Originally Posted by Callback

Craft/gather materia has a use. I don't see how combat materia does considering there's no endgame stuff that even allows melding. Why does that stuff sell so high?

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I have a Str/Vit melded tank and accuracy on my SCH... its a raidthing plus with 3.2 you will be able to meld the tomestone gear/Alex gear (the new ones).

You can "easily" grind materia with Diadem too. Just brain off - bash some dinos and trade your loot for spoils and the spoils for materia... if you are really patient for making gil sell the materia once 3.2 hits. As a side effect you may get some lucky 210 loots.

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Originally Posted by SinfulExistence

Can you recommend any gathering or crafting classes? Literally have no idea where to start in regards to this!

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If a lot of your expenses come from buying glamours and you'd like to start making some of them yourself, Weaver, Leatherworker and Armourer are good for that. They also combine well for providing materials to each other. But as Risvertasashi mentioned, to do a lot of the high-end crafting, you'd eventually want all of them for cross-class skills.

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Originally Posted by Werhusky

I have a Str/Vit melded tank and accuracy on my SCH... its a raidthing plus with 3.2 you will be able to meld the tomestone gear/Alex gear (the new ones).

You can "easily" grind materia with Diadem too. Just brain off - bash some dinos and trade your loot for spoils and the spoils for materia... if you are really patient for making gil sell the materia once 3.2 hits. As a side effect you may get some lucky 210 loots.

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I would kill myself before going back in the diadem. Boredom hell x1000.

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I would kill myself before going back in the diadem. Boredom hell x1000.

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Hehe hence wrote "easily" I do 1-2 runs in 2-3 weeks and use the spoils for materia I might need in 3.2 XD

Of the gatherers, I'd recommend miner.. they have more items that crafters need. For retainer ventures, quick ventures are an RNG crapshoot (could get vendor trash chubs, or multi million selling kingly whiskers) or shards are a low cost/low selling but consistent gil making method. The good quick venture items do need max level/decent gear I believe, so for the short term, maybe leveling with 18 hour ventures and sending them out for shards for gil would be best.

If you are actively leveling a battle class, you can do leves and sell the gear. NQ heavensward gear on my server will sell for 5k-30k, so I pulled in a small amount of profit just from hitting my weekly challenge log bonus.

As a fisher, I hardly fish at all myself anymore. I have a retainer who fishes 90% of what I use to sell. The only time I fish is to get something that my retainer can't get, or to get a fish that I haven't caught yet (your retainer can only get what you have gotten before). But you only need 1, then you can rely on your retainer.

Retainer's can get white coral at lvl 5 (which is probably what I sell most consistently on my server, but it doesn't sell that high). Then bluebell salmon at lvl 16 (sells high, but in bursts). Then lvl 26 Hammerhead sharks, which very often sell well. Then at lvl 41, you can get silver sharks, also good sellers. I tend to pop in some red corals as well which is level 45 for retainer.

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Originally Posted by Malicewolf

As a fisher, I hardly fish at all myself anymore. I have a retainer who fishes 90% of what I use to sell. The only time I fish is to get something that my retainer can't get, or to get a fish that I haven't caught yet (your retainer can only get what you have gotten before). But you only need 1, then you can rely on your retainer.

Retainer's can get white coral at lvl 5 (which is probably what I sell most consistently on my server, but it doesn't sell that high). Then bluebell salmon at lvl 16 (sells high, but in bursts). Then lvl 26 Hammerhead sharks, which very often sell well. Then at lvl 41, you can get silver sharks, also good sellers. I tend to pop in some red corals as well which is level 45 for retainer.

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This sounds pretty useful actually, I'll look into this myself. Thanks!!