Does anyone else feel that the cards are too weak, i dont know, i barely feel like im making a difference giving them to my party. I'm not saying they should have way higher potencies or something, otherwise AST would be considered OP or broken. They're nice and all, but, i dont know. I really do like the job and all, but i feel unsatisfied with those cards. Other people view them differently of course, i'm just saying my piece.
The AST's cards weak
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12-08-2015, 03:19 PMWolfKidThe AST's cards weak
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12-08-2015, 04:31 PMTatoRazzino
Where exactly do you feel that? In dungeons, yes, they'll be fairly week because encounters are very fast. You'll get the most out of them in raids or ex primals, but your group has to be good. Bad DPS make an AST useless simply because 10% of nothing is... nothing. I have been playing WHM in Thordan EX and my group's overall DPS is lower; we used to finish phase 1 with 68-69% when I played AST, and as a WHM we finish it with 71% (72% sometimes), so my cards were adding around 2%, give or take.
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12-08-2015, 04:55 PMJovianTheCoolMan, you have a badass AST there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TatoRazzino
P.S. I know it's a typo, chuckled. -
12-08-2015, 05:06 PMKaenbyou
I can assure you that AST cards are really poweful.
If you ever play dps and get an Arrow or Balance, you'll really feel the difference.
And buffing 8 people with 5% more damage may not look like it, but it's an incredible dps gain.
So while I might agree that some cards feel really weak (unbuffed Ewer or Spire) or hard to use efficiently (Spear), the overall gain is there. -
12-09-2015, 06:39 AMTatoRazzinoOops! Fixed ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JovianTheCool
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12-09-2015, 06:52 AMVladyThe 5 other threads of People wanting to make the job more op is obviously not enough. Let's make a few more.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfKid
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12-09-2015, 10:38 AMNicobotbh, most ppl do not view them. ^^; but AST still OP.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfKid
This job should have the least healing power bcoz it has the cards, however, it's healing power without the cards still same as others, therefore it is OP. -
12-09-2015, 04:32 PMWolfKidIs..... Is AST really that powerful?! I never noticed. I was fine with the healing as it is now, i just didnt like the system on the cards and stuff. Did AST really get that powerful, cause i never felt that. I always feel inferior to either a WHM or SCHQuote:
Originally Posted by Nicobo
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12-09-2015, 04:54 PMAzureFlare
The healing is not 1 on 1 equal but given how much people generally overheal, AST can hold its own just fine. Got to be a little creative with your buttons is all.
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12-09-2015, 07:48 PMNekoteeHere is your problem Wolfkid =DQuote:
Originally Posted by WolfKid
The card are a system with great power but hard to master...
You need to know all your card their effect and their target, you need to draw them without having animation problem to heal (delayed heal due to the spinning card -,-)
It require a little management, just like SCH and it's fairy.
The bonus of the card are really strong if done correctly (enhanced bole or balance is more than OP)
In term of healing, equally geared, you do as much as the other. -
12-09-2015, 11:03 PMTatoRazzinoAST is a harder job to master because it requires you to do two roles at the same time: buffing and healing; if you add personal DPS to that list, it becomes hard to juggle all the roles (but also very fun!). Like Neko said, you need to know your cards very well and also know how each job works in the game to use the cards effectively. Ideally, you should know who play with you very well so you can know when to use cards on them and when not to. Everything is contextual, so teaching someone how to use the system effectively is very hard. Read the AST threads in here; in the middle of all the crying and bashing, there are some pretty valuable tips :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfKid
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12-09-2015, 11:22 PMNekoteeGolden... And 100% true XDQuote:
Originally Posted by TatoRazzino
But you have to dig deep in the whining, theorycraft and the yelling...
And I do second the statement about your fellow fighter...
Know them well and adapt !
My static's Monk had build his stuff with the right among of skillspeed in order to DPS without too much TP problem
And each time I give him the arrow, he swore on the twelve that'he'will spank mynass red... ._. Because it break all his cycle XD
So yeah... No arrow for him...
In the other hand my BLM would french kiss me for each arrow i give him.
(But it force him to think about about his mana regeneration... So he complain but love it) -
12-10-2015, 12:25 AMWolfKid
After reading different posts, looks like i cast judgement too fast on the cards, for now i'll make the best of it. As i said before, they ARE nice, i guess i was underestimating Royal Road.
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12-10-2015, 02:04 PM416to305
When I first started as AST I thought the same about the cards, there was no benefit that's obvious etc. I don't know when that changed but you just know you're making a difference. I get so many comments especially from BLM's after saying they are now addicted to enhanced Balance etc. I also echo what the other poster said, phase 1 also around 58% just did it earlier and had expanded Balance up.
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12-10-2015, 02:19 PM416to305
Spear is actually really good if you have it come up and can use it. If you have enhanced royal road and use it, you can usually pop a collective unconscious, LA (whatever it is the pink spell that restores your MP :P), lightspeed, swiftcast etc, and have them all come off cool down much faster. You definitely see that one working for sure. Ewer of course as well. Spire I almost never use other than to royal road it as no one ever seems to be so low on TP that it isn't worth royal roading it. Ewer I used to always royal road it but it's handy to spread it sometimes just in case you die or need that boost. Bole is also handy to spread, good for if someone wipes and you rez them or tank is taking damage, especially if you can get an expanded royal road. Can pop that before a big AoE.