The FASTEST way to farm Mistbreak i210 gears

1. First, we are talking abt hard mode, and we need about 4-5 parties
   
2. Second, we kill rank V mobs separately instead of stacking over 40 people at the same spot to do massive pulls
   
3. Basically with solo heal/tank and 6 dps, u can speed kill rank V easily
   
4. Appoximately every 5 rank V mobs will give u a track, when you get the track, shout out and get other parties gather together
   
5. After killing the Star rank and getting gold chest, parties should go back to their own spots and farm rank Vs again until new track pops

Pros: We didn't run for full 90mins to test it, but within less than 60mins we got 5 gold chests while there was another party basically trolling the f**k out of us, BUT, if the math works, with 4-5 parties we could very possibly farm 15-18 gold chests in a full 90mins run

Cons: There will be way less i150, i180 trash drops than all 40 people stacking in the same place and do massive pulls, but honestly, what do u need those things for? If ur going in hard mode, ur pretty much going for the i210 gears, and at this point i think everyone has a pegasus alrdy.

one more thing
the thing about popping a star rank mob is sort of getting enough credit for one party, so while ur doing massive pull, each mob wud have to give 4 to 5 different parties credit, and it wud definitely take a longer time to pop track for each party in that way; However, while parties are killing mobs separately, they get full credit from each mob, and about every 5 mobs u almost guarantee to pop a track


we really want to suggest everyone to try it out before rejecting the idea

That could work but there is a lot of time wasted flying that isn't involved in the old method. I don't go to Diadem very often but when I do, I do hard mode.

Stay Grindy, my friends.

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Originally Posted by Miyu20

That could work but there is a lot of time wasted flying that isn't involved in the old method. I don't go to Diadem very often but when I do, I do hard mode.

Stay Grindy, my friends.

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right, but u dont really have to get that far apart....

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Originally Posted by Miyu20

That could work but there is a lot of time wasted flying that isn't involved in the old method. .

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Theoretically, you could all stay on the same island, as long as parties weren't hitting each others mobs. This way, you'd only have a very short 5-10 second flight to wherever the tracks were.

I would take a short flight with this method over the old way any day. Last time I hit Dino Island in HM post adjustment we saw one gold, and out of two stars (meteor dino both times) we only managed to kill one of them before parties started timing out and we didn't have anyone to handle adds...

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Originally Posted by PheonixCain

Cons: There will be way less i150, i180 trash drops than all 40 people stacking in the same place and do massive pulls, but honestly, what do u need those things for? If ur going in hard mode, ur pretty much going for the i210 gears, and at this point i think everyone has a pegasus alrdy.

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As a crafter, I would want grade 5 materia from handing in those i150 and i180, and you get a lot more in a coordinated alliance than trying to get random people in normal or easy mode to cooperate.

As a side note, you can circumvent the 1000 character limit by editing your post. Like you can fit all of your posts in one post:

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Originally Posted by PheonixCain

1. First, we are talking abt hard mode, and we need about 4-5 parties
   
2. Second, we kill rank V mobs separately instead of stacking over 40 people at the same spot to do massive pulls
   
3. Basically with solo heal/tank and 6 dps, u can speed kill rank V easily
   
4. Appoximately every 5 rank V mobs will give u a track, when you get the track, shout out and get other parties gather together
   
5. After killing the Star rank and getting gold chest, parties should go back to their own spots and farm rank Vs again until new track pops

Pros: We didn't run for full 90mins to test it, but within less than 60mins we got 5 gold chests while there was another party basically trolling the f**k out of us, BUT, if the math works, with 4-5 parties we could very possibly farm 15-18 gold chests in a full 90mins run

Cons: There will be way less i150, i180 trash drops than all 40 people stacking in the same place and do massive pulls, but honestly, what do u need those things for? If ur going in hard mode, ur pretty much going for the i210 gears, and at this point i think everyone has a pegasus alrdy.

one more thing
the thing about popping a star rank mob is sort of getting enough credit for one party, so while ur doing massive pull, each mob wud have to give 4 to 5 different parties credit, and it wud definitely take a longer time to pop track for each party in that way; However, while parties are killing mobs separately, they get full credit from each mob, and about every 5 mobs u almost guarantee to pop a track


we really want to suggest everyone to try it out before rejecting the idea

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Originally Posted by TechnoTechie

As a crafter, I would want grade 5 materia from handing in those i150 and i180, and you get a lot more in a coordinated alliance than trying to get random people in normal or easy mode to cooperate.

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as i say when you going in hard mode, you pretty much aiming for the guarantee gold chests that drop from star rank, therefore, you would like to spawn as many star ranks as possible, and that's why i suggest this method.

one very important thing my group and i think is that people who wants to farm trash drops and get materias, they shuld never do that in hard mode, it's not efficient for your own sake, going into normal or easy and massive pulling rank II or III would give you a lot of spoils in a very short amount of time, and you would still gt gold chest from time to time

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Originally Posted by TechnoTechie

As a side note, you can circumvent the 1000 character limit by editing your post. Like you can fit all of your posts in one post:

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how do i do that:(

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Originally Posted by PheonixCain

as i say when you going in hard mode, you pretty much aiming for the guarantee gold chests that drop from star rank, therefore, you would like to spawn as many star ranks as possible, and that's why i suggest this method.

one very important thing my group and i think is that people who wants to farm trash drops and get materias, they shuld never do that in hard mode, it's not efficient for your own sake, going into normal or easy and massive pulling rank II or III would give you a lot of spoils in a very short amount of time, and you would still gt gold chest from time to time

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I don't know. I guess I'm of the opinion that it would be time-effective for me because I'd want those i210 drops as well. Why not do both in the same run?
I guess I'm not quite in the loop either, not really having done diadem since the nerfs, but exactly how many less i210 drops would you get from a giant roaming alliance working in tandem versus split up? I can kind of see the logic behind the method you're suggesting, but I'm just wondering how much more effective %-wise it actually is.

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Originally Posted by PheonixCain

how do i do that:(

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Quite simply, if you get the 1000 character limit notice as you're posting, copy the entire thing (or cut), post something that is under the limit (optionally you can paste your text to an external program like notepad or another site temporarily), hit "edit post", and replace everything in the post with what's on your clipboard ^^;

Pro-tip: if you hit "Edit post" and then "save" fast enough, you won't get the "Last edited by ______;" message at the bottom either :D

TLDR: This works if people call out tracks, but many aren't.

I agree that this is the best method if different groups work together. However many parties are afraid of not getting credit so they don't /shout out star rank mobs or they /yell to another party they've teamed up with. I've been many times and see it to often if I'm on Ptero island of people saying don't /shout next time 'blah blah blah'.

It's true that under the old system there was usually a full zone with 9 parties and it was harder to get credit. Now with only 5-6 parties in a zone even during prime diadem times it is much easier to meet the DPS threshold. Last run we had a DPS D/C early and only missed out credit on one star that wasn't shouted out and we came across when it was a little over half health.

How many chests did you guys get? We found that the best run we had was with 5 groups all farming the same 3 isles with the V's (pteros and pelican + Celphie while waiting for ptero) I don't think your method is the best as I've already tried that in many other Diadems and what happens is people pop the S rank early or flight time is too much of a time waste.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who gets tracks, its still better to stay together.

with 5 groups doing this, we were able to get 10 NMs, and that was with the first 20 minutes wasted trying to figure things out. So I think it could have easily been 11.

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Originally Posted by TechnoTechie

As a crafter, I would want grade 5 materia from handing in those i150 and i180, and you get a lot more in a coordinated alliance than trying to get random people in normal or easy mode to cooperate.

As a side note, you can circumvent the 1000 character limit by editing your post. Like you can fit all of your posts in one post:

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But the crafting materia come from steel spoils. You don't get those from farming mobs. o.O

Not to mention, Grade V crafting materia aren't even available through Diadem.

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Originally Posted by Dezwaan

TLDR: This works if people call out tracks, but many aren't.

I agree that this is the best method if different groups work together. However many parties are afraid of not getting credit so they

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got it right. What he meant to say (i believe?) was

"TLDR: This works if people call out tracks AND wait to give others a chance while reducing their own"

Absurd expectation. Dont split the farm. Efficient farmers miss credit because of
1. Ninjapops
2. Splits
3. Split ninjapops
... (pulled adds who do sleep/para/death, provoke)

What people are starting to do is farm the pteradons that are rank V they spawn in the western part of Diadem and they're really easy mobs to kill we got 11 gold chests that night with my FC.

Pros: Mobs don't do any nasty mechanics, just a small tiny circle aoe and a cone line, you follow a circle pattern so once you finish the pattern there's always one up all the time, virtually no down time.

Cons: Only works if people are communicating together, people don't know the route and get lost as ones up really high in the sky, if someone ninja pulls an NM on a small island you're basically screwed having to deal with 2 NM monsters.

We tried Celphie island to compare mob kill times and we got 3-4 chests more than what we'd usually get in a night, the best run on Celphie island I had was maybe 8 chests. Last week through Ptereadons we got 12 chests.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

But the crafting materia come from steel spoils. You don't get those from farming mobs. o.O

Not to mention, Grade V crafting materia aren't even available through Diadem.

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Get 5 grade 5 battle materia -> transmute and pray to RNGesus -> crafting V materia

Transmuting is the only way to get grade 5 craft materia, and the best way to have a chance is with rank 5 battle