Ascian Prime EX

{The Minstrel's Ballad: Ascian's Rejoining}{Please.}{Can I have it?}



I'd also take The Minstrel's Ballad: Gaius' Conquest please

And Odin EX


I will ask for these until the end of days

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No, god please no. No!!!!

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Originally Posted by Tisharu

No, god please no. No!!!!

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But I like Ascians...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

ZODIARK? YES, BRING IT
ASCIANS? NO

This is the first time I have ever seen such fervent NO's in a thread on this forum LOL


Am I weird? I actually liked the fight and boss design and such.


Instead of something being so hard(in a bad way) that people want to quit...

make it something so hard(in a good way) that people sue SE for harassment

A. Research Facility might be the perfect dungeon for a real hard mode version. a light party raid.

i like that fight and even more so the time-dilation thing near the end.

almost a 1 minute of hallowed ground? 2 minutes of berserk+vengeance+thrill of battle? 2 minutes of Divine Seal'd Medica2?
it's so awesome

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Originally Posted by aerolol

i like that fight and even more so the time-dilation thing near the end.

almost a 1 minute of hallowed ground? 2 minutes of berserk+vengeance+thrill of battle? 2 minutes of Divine Seal'd Medica2?
it's so awesome

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Chrysallis isn't Ascian Prime.

Ascian prime is the epitome of Ascianess in this game. I hate Ascians.

Yes pls! From time to time I queue for research facility to help fresh 60 players and because I really like the final boss.

spoiler, perhaps...

but only if the ex fight includes the first part (Lahabrea and Igeyorhm)

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Originally Posted by Eothas

but only if the ex fight includes the first part (Lahabrea and Igeyorhm)

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Yes I'd like this alot as well. I like the fight with those 2. It has a nice pace and it isn't long. I really like the part with the ice. It's the most annoying but also my favorite part.. That part of the fight is unique to them. Shiva didn't have you sliding to dodge a ton of AoEs nor did the Demon Tome. They could make the separated Ascians be in the first phases or the last phases.


Fevelle

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Ascian prime is the epitome of Ascianess in this game. I hate Ascians.

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Why does everyone hate Ascians? I know they're..(Some choice words) but in terms of fighting them we really don't at all.

-Lahabrea: Not a fight anymore. Super lolzerg
-Nabriales: The only Ascian fight pre-Heavensward. Not a hard fight. Not exactly a fun fight either imo.

They could make a fun fight for this battle... it IS like a climax battle. Climax before the climax

Thought the fights were rather interesting and they feel very minor at the moment, could agree with EX :)

Is it just me (maybe it's me being asian) that everytime I hear Ascian, I hear Asian. It's like western people talking about how Asians are so smart lelz

Maybe it's just me, I just always found this amusing ;P

Yes Please! The game could use some more 3.0 Primal Ex fights.

People.. are actually starting to say yes.....

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Depends, do we have to give up a new primal like we did with ThordanEX? If the answer is yes, then no, I'd rather have a new primal. If it's alongside a new primal, then more content is always great.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Depends, do we have to give up a new primal like we did with ThordanEX? If the answer is yes, then no, I'd rather have a new primal. If it's alongside a new primal, then more content is always great.

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Did they say they had to give up a new Primal fight for ThordanEX? This is the first time I'm hearing that (and its not like they had to do that for Ultima's Bane)

Throw in Nabrialas to surprise us that its a bit more then just a straight up harder version of the fight and I'm in for Ascian EX.

I like Ascians.

More Ascians are always good. No exceptions.

Therefore I support the OP.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Did they say they had to give up a new Primal fight for ThordanEX? This is the first time I'm hearing that (and its not like they had to do that for Ultima's Bane)

Throw in Nabrialas to surprise us that its a bit more then just a straight up harder version of the fight and I'm in for Ascian EX.

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We've had a new primal every patch since 2.0, and with 3.1 we didn't get one. I think it's safe to assume that this mechanically complex fight took the development time out of those, but regardless Yoshida did mention that this was replacement for the EX fight, or rather is the EX fight of this patch, and future EX fights won't be like this.

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Yoshida: We've said this before, but the battle was intended to sit between the normal and savage versions of Alexander Gordias. This one in particular was designed as a challenge for players who are working on the third area of savage to give them another near-term goal and prevent them from getting bored by giving them a new Knight weapon which they can use to keep pushing in the third part of savage. So, based on that, this is kind of a unique difficulty. For the next extreme primal we'll probably scale back the level of difficult

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Yes please. But make the dungeon itself be a small light or maybe even a full party raid as well.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

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Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

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Originally Posted by Colorful

We've had a new primal every patch since 2.0, and with 3.1 we didn't get one. I think it's safe to assume that this mechanically complex fight took the development time out of those, but regardless Yoshida did mention that this was replacement for the EX fight, or rather is the EX fight of this patch, and future EX fights won't be like this.

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Actually Yoshida said that the original King Thordan battle included about 70% of the existing mechanics in the EX. But he thought it would be too hard for people to beat so he toned it down ALOT so people doing the main storyline could complete it. This is from that interview btw.

Also, have a strong feeling all of their time definitely went into Diadem and Lord Of Verminion. Considering the size of its section of the patch notes.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

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They can make a Roegadyn primal for all the pain Roes go through.

To be honest.. that would be awesome.....

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

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Even Ravana was pretty similar to a FFXI Naraka family, with the armored humanoid, 4-armed stance changes and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

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Ravana and Bismarck have been my favourite primals so far, so the more "original" (I know Ravana and Bismarck aren't 100% original), would be better than ones based on other FF games. As for potential primals, I'd really like to see an Anima primal, especially if it plays part in the new Anima weapons. Otherwise they don't need to be primals, Omega weapon and one of the Warriors of Darkness could be viable choices.

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Originally Posted by Toguro

Actually Yoshida said that the original King Thordan battle included about 70% of the existing mechanics in the EX. But he thought it would be too hard for people to beat so he toned it down ALOT so people doing the main storyline could complete it. This is from that interview btw.

Also, have a strong feeling all of their time definitely went into Diadem and Lord Of Verminion. Considering the size of its section of the patch notes.

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If not for the EX fight there would have been a rather large outrage of less content, and they would have made a new one and reallocated resources from elsewhere. Instead they made ThordanEX in its place, so we didn't get a new primal due to it. But regardless, the Ascian Prime was from a MSQ dungeon, meaning there is no hard mode so they'd have to start from scratch, giving us no new trial. I don't think the encounter team worked on Lords of Verminion either.

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Originally Posted by Toguro

I'd also take The Minstrel's Ballad: Gaius' Conquest please

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I would have been all over this, I've always felt that Gaius never got his proper due D:

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Originally Posted by Colorful

If not for the EX fight there would have been a rather large outrage of less content, and they would have made a new one and reallocated resources from elsewhere. Instead they made ThordanEX in its place, so we didn't get a new primal due to it. But regardless, the Ascian Prime was from a MSQ dungeon, meaning there is no hard mode so they'd have to start from scratch, giving us no new trial. I don't think the encounter team worked on Lords of Verminion either.

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I understand but if Yoshida is claiming that 70% of Thordan EX was already made before Heavensward even came out and they just tweaked it for the MSQ.... where did that time go to??? They couldn't have been working on 30% of Thordan EX the whole time.. their resources and time must've went somewhere.

On a side note, I love Ravana. Don't like the whal-..Bismark

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Originally Posted by Colorful

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How could I forget Anima, X still is one of my favorites! Valefor is probably a no though since they were part of LoTA...Magus Sisters would probably be in a 24-man as well, though I could see having two of them being perma tanked while the odd one out has to be bounced back and forth like Spiny Plume.

Outside of Primals, Omega is for sure coming (and I assume during 3.x patch cycle, though I guess its possible it could be left for the 4.0 series.) Currently it seems to me the WoD will be regulated to 4-man dungeons...though my opinion may change.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Alright, makes sense. Though now I'm wondering what the next primal will be. We've covered quite a few of the major ones already, and Ravana has also show they have a willingness to make ones that would specifially be for FFXIV. Outside of the Warring Triad there doesn't seem to be many Primals to go with right now (unless they do start going with the Ivalice line.)

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I'd like to see Crusader from FFVI as an Ala Mhigan primal. It would be great!

If it means gear based around the Ascian Overlord look then hey why not?

But we are already more powerful then then Ascian's ;)
But it could be fun