V materia

So SE said they weren't going to have tier V materia at start of 3.0 but at a later date so people were like they will probably have them in 3.1 well 5 months later and 3.1 has come and still no tier V materia. Now you can get it from the goblin through transmutation but I heard it like 99% chance you won't get a V materia though. So does SE have any plans on putting V materia in the game that people can actually get without using the goblin that more then "at a later date"?

Battle Tier V are quite available now by collecting spoils in Diadem or by spiritbonding the crafted i185 sky pirates gear (made from mats from Diadem as well). But still we have no sign of crafting/gathering Tier V yet :/

It's just not practical to spiritbond any i170 crafting gear/tools for materia at all, and we don't have any obvious alternatives yet...

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Now you can get it from the goblin through transmutation but I heard it like 99% chance you won't get a V materia though

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You mean using 5x V tier combat you won't get a V tier craft?

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Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

You mean using 5x V tier combat you won't get a V tier craft?

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Sarcasm? But if not yes you can get T5 materia from mutinix either use five Tier 4 materia and getting very lucky or using five T5 materia and still getting lucky that it turns into gathering or crafting materia. Either way the availability of T5 materia for crafting or gathering is a fraction of that of combat materia.

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Originally Posted by MeridaQ

Sarcasm? But if not yes you can get T5 materia from mutinix either use five Tier 4 materia and getting very lucky or using five T5 materia and still getting lucky that it turns into gathering or crafting materia. Either way the availability of T5 materia for crafting or gathering is a fraction of that of combat materia.

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Still better than the 0 availability and paying 5 million for one, on Leviathan.

I think less than dozen total EVER sold. And there are more lv 60 omnicrafters than that.

What lol theres multiple ways to get V materia... No purpose but you can get it.

Aside from transmutation, spiritbonding rate is quite fast within the Diadem, so it's possible to convert Astral Birch and Griffin Leather jewelry and hope you get Tier Vs out.

Thing is, given the time investment between farming Favor mats (either via Ooids or Spoils), crafting the accessories, actually spiritbinding them, and hoping that you get a Tier V out (assuming it's probably only a 40-60% chance of converting to a Tier V, kind of like how it was for Tier IVs back in the day), it's still far too labor-intensive of a cost for most people to consider.

I'm fairly certain this is another thing which shows that crafting takes last fiddle in SE's list of important things. Even mini-games that no one plays get more attention.

Do we know for sure that the two star 170 crafted gear like astral birch rings give V materia? Has anyone done this to give confirmation?

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Originally Posted by blueruckus

Do we know for sure that the two star 170 crafted gear like astral birch rings give V materia? Has anyone done this to give confirmation?

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Unconfirmed AFAIK, but it is known that crafted DoW/M gear as low as i160 can convert into Tier Vs. Therefore, I'm inductively assuming that the DoH/L gear works the same way.

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Originally Posted by Lobotomite

Unconfirmed AFAIK, but it is known that crafted DoW/M gear as low as i160 can convert into Tier Vs. Therefore, I'm inductively assuming that the DoH/L gear works the same way.

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No, Tier V DoH/DoL materia is NOT YET available via spiritbonding. You can get the gear to 100% but you cannot convert it to anything higher than IV, as per the patch notes from 3.0 onward.

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Originally Posted by Culfinrandir

No, Tier V DoH/DoL materia is NOT YET available via spiritbonding. You can get the gear to 100% but you cannot convert it to anything higher than IV, as per the patch notes from 3.0 onward.

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I'm sorry, do you have a source?

All I'm seeing in the 3.0 and 3.1 patch notes regarding materia are:

[3.0] Players can now convert gear into grade five materia.
* Grade five materia for crafting and gathering classes will not be available at the release of patch 3.0. They are scheduled to be added at a later date. However, it will be possible to receive grade five crafting or gathering materia via materia transmutation by speaking with Mutamix.

i170 crafting gear was released in 3.05, which is not 3.0. This is kind of vague, IMO.

[3.1] Gear will gain spiritbonding at an increased rate in The Diadem in comparison to other duties.
* The increased spiritbond gain does not apply to crafting or gathering.

Again, ambiguous. Are they saying that the gain doesn't apply to the actions of crafting or gathering within the Diadem, or that the gain doesn't apply to DoW/L gear?

Exactly, the patch notes say it will be introduced at a later stage. Don't you think something as majorly important as a new tier of materia being introduced would be skipped over in the patch notes?

Until the notes say otherwise, tier v gathering & crafting materia is only available via transmutation, as originally stated.

I do follow Culfinrandir
Currently there is no confirmation for spiritbonding tier V materia for DoL and DoH
The only way is with mutamix

Right now it might easier to have them
Thanks to diadem materia exchange and fast spiritbond for i185 stuff (took me 1 run to reach 100% on HQ pièce, rank 4 and 5 gave me like... 2% each)
=> Unfortunately got only tier IV materia

I'd like to see them added in to Diadem store for Steel Spoils.

In a far far far later patch maybe

Probably the same time when new relic weapons are implemented.

The relic weapon is right here... It's the next patch XD
Might not have SB for craft/gatherer

The nearest patch that could be the one
Is 3.2
With a new layer of crafted gear/accessories
Possibly a new set of crafting and gathering gear
That need tier V materia to be perfect meld

To be fair, if they DID put tier 5 crafting/gathering materia in the diadem spoils store, there would be an army of crafters/gatherers doing nothing but gathering in the diadem and pissing off the people who go in there to kill stuff even more. That might be why it's not available for trading with spoils.

well, basically theres 0 need for grade V gatherer and crafter materia yet because you can easily craft and gather EVERYTHING without bothering about your gear or stats
if you pentameld the normal ilvl 150 stuff with grade III and IV materia you can comfortable gather everything ingame and craft all 2 star recipes in HQ

they will probably introduce them later when they might become usefull or relevant