This isn't a complaint first and foremost. I have accepted the new Bard and actually quite enjoying it since I transfered servers with no lag whatsoever and with the recent patch, most of the latency issues have disappeared.
But, just one thing that sorta bothers me, when you are in WM stance and you turn it off, there is no CD to turn it on again. But when you turn it on, there is a 15 sec CD.
I don't really mind the 15 sec CD, but having no CD when turning it off means you can turn it back on immediately, which sometimes creates havoc when someone like me who is a trigger happy player just turns it off and turns it right back on during a mobile phase.
That makes me one unhappy BRD for 15 seconds :<
Maybe 1 sec, or 3 sec CD will be fine to combat this. Cos if you are turning WM off, you will probably do it on purpose for a good reason and don't need it back for a couple seconds. That may just be me, what do you fellow BRD's think?
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11-16-2015, 09:04 PMxXRaineXxWanderers Minuet Suggestion - Add a 1sec CD between turning off and on.
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11-16-2015, 09:07 PMAskaRay
Well I rarely turn it off
in fact recently the only fight I've been turning it off is that one morbol in the Aroboretum; turn it off and run around it when it and its babies are spewing bad breath at me -_- -
11-16-2015, 10:00 PMAlphaFox
I know its the same issue with Cleric Stance for me, especially when it gets hectic turning it off and accidentally turn it right back on.
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11-16-2015, 10:04 PMGilraen
It had a cooldown in the form of casting time, people hated it (for some strange reason). I think Square could easily construe this as a, "Do you or do you not want a cooldown? make up your minds!"
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11-17-2015, 03:00 PMxXRaineXxThat is totally different. To cast it, you had to throw away valuable 3 seconds away from dps'in. A 3 sec CD in-between 3 seconds you want to move around is a completely different subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilraen
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11-17-2015, 03:03 PMxXRaineXxThere are times when if you want to maximize your DPS potential, you have to turn it off, unless you get good proc timings. Specially with Thordan EX right now, there are many times that you have to move around, specially in the last KotR phases.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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11-17-2015, 03:09 PMAskaRayWell, yeah, heavy movement is a no-brainer to turn it off, but I haven't done a lot of Thordan EX yet.. I really meant the only fight -I've- been in. I'm sure there are other fights right now (like that ball...tether...thing section in Ravvy EX) where you'll turn it off due to too much movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXRaineXx
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11-17-2015, 03:24 PMxXRaineXxAs Alphafox mentioned, it can be a nuisance when you accidentally turn it right back on and you are stuck in WM form for 15 seconds when you don't have time to cast.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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11-17-2015, 03:52 PMJeykamaGood argument for equipping Feint, I guess. Do wish there was like a 1gcd lockout (or have turning it off be independent of the GCD) like the OP wants though. I mash buttons while dpsing, and I'm sure I'm not alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXRaineXx
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11-17-2015, 04:18 PMShurrikhan
Would love it if it had a .6 second CD or so to prevent double-click reactivation on laggy nights... and if the lock-in CD was reduced to 5-10 seconds... *whistling*
Anything longer than .6 seconds though wouldn't be a matter of accidental doubling, and could prevent people from getting in that extra AA during a Straighter Shot or (after dropping) Straight/Heavy Shot with no oGCDs ready - BRD's tiny, tiny bit of stance dancing during otherwise dummy dps. -
11-17-2015, 04:21 PMszalkerous
I honestly find WM to be counter-productive to the Bard/Archer. This class should be putting the emphasis on constant motion, not the other way around. I personally wish WM required you to be constantly moving to be active, which would shore up some of the DPS shortcoming to other classes.
You'd say, "that's OP!" but honestly, during a lot of battle you have limited options to movement without hitting AOE or drawing in additional aggro. I think it would make the class more dynamic and fun. -
11-18-2015, 08:19 AMxXRaineXxLet's keep this thread clean without the 'WM SUCKS' node. It's here to stay, so might as well give suggestions to make it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by szalkerous
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11-18-2015, 03:02 PMPaladinleedsErr isn't that what he did in the second part of his post? Which I agree with. Making WM tied to movement (with only a limited turning circle before cancelling it (so yes you can do a 360 degree turn slowly but turn too sharply and it drops) would make Bard unique compared to Machinist.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXRaineXx
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11-20-2015, 09:06 AMxXRaineXxIdk, that will probably make things worse... the prominent issue isn't really the cast time or movement anymore. Most BRD's are used to it now, I accepted that reality. The current issue is that pre-HW skills have bad communication with WM. MCH can generally outperform a BRD on average DPS, due to their procs being tied into their main rotation. BRD's Blood Letter is in such a awkward situation, it's easy to miss couple dozen procs due to being locked in animation. Though I did learn how to prioritize BL over HS 90% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
But I don't really care anymore about that, I can dish out massive DPS now, took me a long time to get the full grasp, but I am satisfied. I'm just bothered by the insta-recast of WM.