Creation of the title "Stands as One"

In light of the recent attacks on Paris and the way that the community across all servers came together and held vigils for those affected buy this, I would like to propose the creation of a new title. If possible, I would like to see the title "Stands as One" created and made available to all those who chose to participate in the vigils.

I realize it may be difficult to track exactly who was there but I believe that through screenshots, videos and Square Enix's ability to track who and how many players were in a given area at a given time that it should be possible to make this happen.

So many members of so many servers came together to show solidarity and support for those suffering from this event that I think it appropriate to allow and encourage those players to be able to continue to show support for all the suffering and I believe that we should be able to "Stand as One" to show all of Eorzea and the world that we will unite together in the face of evil and adversity.

I get that you want to honor both the victims in the attack in Paris and the people who took time out of their game to pay respects, but I don't think we should be linking real life events to the game just for titles. It might seem a tad tasteless.

In addition to the logistical difficulties you mention, it's kind of unfair to those who weren't awake for the vigils, and/or were directly affected by the events happening not just in Paris but also in Mexico, Japan and Lebanon. I understand the sentiment, but if you're truly concerned about what happened, a title will do it no justice, only action.

Now, that said, if SE wanted to do a fundraiser of sorts to help people, and to reward people with titles and the like, that would be the right kind of action that everyone would have an equal opportunity to participate in.

I would have no problem making it available to all players who choose to wear it.

Arashmin, your idea is even better. I really wanted to have a open discussion about creating something to show solidarity, I am aware of all the other attacks that have taken place. This particular even really hit home for me and I would like to have a way to show that now and in the future we can all come together and support each other through the hardest of times the world can throw at us.
Miles, I did not mean to be tasteless. If that is your opinion, I can respect that.

This seems tasteless as it would look more like rewarding people for taking part in the vigils...

It is absolutely for the best to not mix games and politics, especially so when you begin equating real life tragedies with in-game rewards.

I went to one of the vigils because I heard the news, didn't feel like playing a game with that sick feeling in my stomach, and thought that maybe quietly showing support might bring some comfort to somebody. I don't think rewards should be given out for something like this; it might encourage people to just show up to get the title rather than because they want to show support to others or are looking for support themselves. We don't need a carrot for everything.

With the amount of outpouring over the Paris attacks gestures such as these could be seen as being just as empty as the Ice Bucket Challenge that was going around last year. Dumping a bucket of ice on your head doesn't really help anyone. Neither does wearing a title. It's all just empty symbolism. Now, if that title came from making a donation through Square, that would be something worth having like when Square was taking donations for relief effort in the Fukushima quake and offering a hat in XI for those who donated.

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Originally Posted by kcrclark

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Don't worry about it. I know you want to contribute in your own way. Just saying there's other ways to get the word out so we don't cross muddy lines in the game. I think the vigils players held in game was more than enough and I was glad to see people come together like that.

Too many things wrong with this idea to even talk about

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That isn't what I had in mind at all, but I can very well see from the backlash I've gotten how good of a point you make.

I can see you mean well but as people have mentioned, it'll be abused. Not only that but if you think about it, most people who went to the vigil went because they wanted to show solidarity, not for fame. I for example have a friend living in Paris (who thank goodness is safe according to their actions on Facebook). I was showing support for her and truth be told I feel the option of a title would cheapen what it is we stood united for. Maybe if they offered a fundraiser and offered the title for donations (say maybe minimum £10), then that could work. Those that donate just for the title are still supporting the efforts that way. It's also not going to be abused as a result.

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Originally Posted by Arashmin

In addition to the logistical difficulties you mention, it's kind of unfair to those who weren't awake for the vigils, and/or were directly affected by the events happening not just in Paris but also in Mexico, Japan and Lebanon. I understand the sentiment, but if you're truly concerned about what happened, a title will do it no justice, only action.

Now, that said, if SE wanted to do a fundraiser of sorts to help people, and to reward people with titles and the like, that would be the right kind of action that everyone would have an equal opportunity to participate in.

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Or those that didn't either 1 know the vigils were going on...or two the server they play on didn't even have one apparently.

This would not go down well. Not only for the reasons people have already listed but you also need to think about the future. Do you make a title for every real world event? The Paris attack wasn't the only event that happened that day. Should there also be a title for that? Sydney Siege? It goes on etc etc. It's a very slippery slope and should be left out of the game world in terms of content.

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Originally Posted by Pence

This would not go down well. Not only for the reasons people have already listed but you also need to think about the future. Do you make a title for every real world event? The Paris attack wasn't the only event that happened that day. Should there also be a title for that? Sydney Siege? It goes on etc etc. It's a very slippery slope and should be left out of the game world in terms of content.

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Conversely it could become the title of choice for anyone who donates to a Square Enix fundraiser for things like earthquakes and terrorist attacks. Perhaps to differentiate between them you could have a little minion that shows off the event we stood in solidarity for (so for the Paris attacks, perhaps have a French flag)

Personally I feel that for those who were there to participate in the vigils, this is the sort of thing you just do, because it's the right thing to do, and not because you're looking for some kind of reward or recognition. To ask for a reward for participating in a vigil seems quite disrespectful to those who were involved or lost loved ones in the actual event or were otherwise effected by it. Not that lack of an in-game reward would stop people from seeking attention, but SE shouldn't be asked to validate them by turning it into a status symbol which would end up cheapening the message sent to the victims the next time an in-game vigil type event might happen.

Since I kinda don't like to put irl matter to games, I honestly want to say that I disagree with this idea sorry :/

the ice bucket challenge was not only to raise money but awarness. Which it did, even yoshida did it TWICE.

In lite of the topic, come things better left alone, and this is 1 of them If anything SE could make a charity And have a title tied to it where funds collected are sent out to nations of attack to help their families effected.

Pretty much the world situation, there is so much more you could do in this world if you legitimately have the heart to do something.

Sitting online in a game isn't a situation where your can be valued if you're truly wanting to help.

http://puu.sh/lnmJY/7240a01347.jpg

I agree. I play games because I want to get away from bad things in real life so I can forget about them.

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Originally Posted by Azazua_azura

the ice bucket challenge was not only to raise money but awarness.

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Awareness of what, that ice is cold? That you're a cold person? Few people did the ice bucket challenge right.

Put it in the cash shop for $10 where all proceeds go to the Red cross.

I don't think this is a good idea. If you want to show solidarity(and there have been events done by fcs for this) , there are far better ways to go about it than a game title drawn from real life events.

I've nothing against showing support for the French people during this difficult time, I just don't think we need to throw in dev code for something community support is already doing, to greater effect and purpose.

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Originally Posted by Gilraen

Awareness of what, that ice is cold? That you're a cold person? Few people did the ice bucket challenge right.

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It was to raise awareness for ALS... -_-;; the point of it was donate $100 or dump a bucket if ice water on your head and donate $10, posting it on youtube.

This is like "walk for hunger" or "walk to stop cancer" walking doesn't help cancer patient...... walking doesn't help the hungery..... What it does do is raise awarness that this exists and events become bigger. I'm happy the ice bucket challenge went viral people from all over the world did it, to help raise awarness for it.

I wish similar stuff happen with autism, did you know not every theripist or behavioral clinic studies it, or even believe it exists?

I got diagnosed with aspergers recently, and getting help to better understand it has been an uphill battle.

1 thing i think we players can do is compile videos from the various vigils and upload it on youtube and dedicate it to the lives lost in the terror attacks. then have everyone like it to show support. :)

If i was online when it happen, I would joined, cuz france doesn't deserve a terror attack, no country does.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

I get that you want to honor both the victims in the attack in Paris and the people who took time out of their game to pay respects, but I don't think we should be linking real life events to the game just for titles. It might seem a tad tasteless.

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I agree that pulling the unfortunate and tragic crimes of reality into a world of fantasy is tasteless and is borderline insulting.
I'm not having a go at you OP or anyone who (enjoyed? participated in?) in game vigils, but providing actual real life aid to the people who need it is a far better use of time and resources. SAYING you stand as one has its limited value yes, but I can't help but feel most of these shows are only for show.
There is a lot of satirical comments on the trend of the 'show' for support (See: Recent Southpark episode for an example) but this is a XIV forum and I feel my comments are now breaching into off topic territory so I will finish here.

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Originally Posted by Dererk

Put it in the cash shop for $10 where all proceeds go to the Red cross.

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http://ffxiclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Charity_Cap
Given to players who contributed to the Square Enix Tohoku Earthquake Crysta Relief Fund.

SE has done it before! But this was extremely close to home ^^
I would not ask SE to do such a thing again as I find it improper to hold them to any sort of obligation but I thought it will be an interesting fact for those who didn't know about it