hunt hoggers

On Ragnarok we have a few players (specifically from 1 fc) who are going around snagging all hunts, and not even waiting for 1 moment for others to arrive.

Would be nice if people either show some class and wait (it is a multiplayer game after all) or SE does something about it. Even once I found a A-Rank hunt, shouted on the LS, but they killed it before i even got an invite to a party....

I hate when that happens, I've missed so many S-rank hunts that way

I play on the same server, so I could invite you to a hunt linkshell if you want

Sadly there isn't much that can be done about it, aside from doing the same thing. Could change servers, or just do the daily/weeklys along with any S ranks you might get word of. Sorry that your server isn't friendly in regards to hunts.

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Originally Posted by Netherblade

On Ragnarok we have a few players (specifically from 1 fc) who are going around snagging all hunts, and not even waiting for 1 moment for others to arrive.

Would be nice if people either show some class and wait (it is a multiplayer game after all) or SE does something about it. Even once I found a A-Rank hunt, shouted on the LS, but they killed it before i even got an invite to a party....

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probably search hunts on your own then and dont leech shouts in linkshells?

doing the weekly/daily hunts a bit too helps indeed. We asked them several times to wait, but they don't really care.... guess in a few weeks when they all have their gear to 210, i can hunt in peace (like it was a few weeks ago)

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

probably search hunts on your own then and dont leech shouts in linkshells?

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I search hunts a lot, as i like this gameplay in FFXIV. But like i said in original post too (and you probably didnt read): i found one today, shouted on LS, and when their party arrives first they killed it without waiting, leaving me with only 4 centurio seals from my solo contribution. If Im actively hunting i prefer to find them in parties.

What exactly would you like SE to do about it?

Square could do a LOT against this. For example max health based on amount of players near the mob, so it lasts for a minute and not for a second after pull. This alone would help to let more people arrive even if it is a early pull. And thats just one example. Square did make the same mistake with hunts again, even if people told them loud and clear that the current system how hunts are working is shit. Thats what you get for your monthly sub.

I stopped with hunts a long time ago. Dont need to play such overall salty and poorly developed content.

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Originally Posted by Sanghelios

Square could do a LOT against this. For example max health based on amount of players near the mob, so it lasts for a minute and not for a second after pull. This alone would help to let more people arrive even if it is a early pull. And thats just one example. Square did make the same mistake with hunts again, even if people told them loud and clear that the current system how hunts are working is shit. Thats what you get for your monthly sub.

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dont do them if you dont like it, there are plenty of other options to get your rewards:

do your daylies/weekly
go void arc
go alex savage

Siren has been pretty good about hunts...as for doing Alex Savage I love how people act like you can just magically clear that whole thing...mainly for weapon pieces...

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

dont do them if you dont like it, there are plenty of other options to get your rewards:

do your daylies/weekly
go void arc
go alex savage

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"If you don't like it, don't do it" does nothing to fix the problem for people who want to do hunts and don't have an entire party on friends on immediate standby, though. It doesn't even make an attempt to hide the symptom.

Hunts were designed with inclusiveness in mind, not for one group to control them like FFXI NMs circa 2005.

That being said, the problem is less with hunts themselves and more the playerbase in this case.

Unfortunately there's at least one linkshell or FC on every server who behave this way. It ruined hunts for a lot of people, some of which actually found it ruined their game altogether & stopped playing.

When people play nice it is great fun, when they don't it sucks treant sap.

Permaban everyone using the guildwork radar :)
Have had situations where we've run across a hunt with no one else in sight but the swarm still rolls in 30 seconds later because some AFK db on the other side of the zone had his cheats running.

They could just instance these hunts as someone else suggested in an another thread. It would alleviate all the fighting over hunts.

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Originally Posted by Neihel

I hate when that happens, I've missed so many S-rank hunts that way

I play on the same server, so I could invite you to a hunt linkshell if you want

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If you know who's doing it and it's one group... create a linkshell where they're blacklisted and make your own calls in there. It's polite to wait a few minutes, especially if you're using someone else's linkshell to hear about hunts.

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

"If you don't like it, don't do it" does nothing to fix the problem for people who want to do hunts and don't have an entire party on friends on immediate standby, though. It doesn't even make an attempt to hide the symptom.

Hunts were designed with inclusiveness in mind, not for one group to control them like FFXI NMs circa 2005.

That being said, the problem is less with hunts themselves and more the playerbase in this case.

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Hunts weren't designed to be inclusive. It was a player base decision to take content designed for, at most, one alliance, and tackle it with hundreds of players. If enough players are present to down the hunt, it's not an early pull. It's absolutely the hunts at fault when fighting them with the intended amount of players brings the wrath of the entire server upon you, because everyone wants a slice of the loot pie.

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Originally Posted by Netherblade

On Ragnarok we have a few players (specifically from 1 fc) who are going around snagging all hunts, and not even waiting for 1 moment for others to arrive.

Would be nice if people either show some class and wait (it is a multiplayer game after all) or SE does something about it. Even once I found a A-Rank hunt, shouted on the LS, but they killed it before i even got an invite to a party....

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They want their gear early so they can cry about not have new gear progression later.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Berry

They want their gear early so they can cry about not have new gear progression later.

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If that's the case they should be no lifing Diadem, not wasting time on hunts. I'm surprised anyone is tbh.

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Originally Posted by Pence

What exactly would you like SE to do about it?

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I'd like them to stop putting upgrade materials or anything that is remotely progression related as a reward from doing hunts. Would solve quite a few problems that we see when new upgrade mats get added as the seal rewards.

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Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

Hunts were designed with inclusiveness in mind, not for one group to control them like FFXI NMs circa 2005.

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thats wrong, they were designed as exclusive, competetive content a la first comes first serves

b ranks for solo persons, a ranks for small groups and s ranks for larger amounts of people

Happens every hunt season

A debate that's missing the point...

If you go find a mark with your party on your own, it doesn't matter whether you wait or not. It's your activity and your find, therefore your reward.

A linkshell is a community resource, with marks called by community members with the intention of sharing, and as soon as you use a linkshell to find your hunts you're no longer playing solo but as part of that community. Don't fuck over the people you just used to get something nice for yourself.

2-3 minutes is not a lot of time.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

thats wrong, they were designed as exclusive, competetive content a la first comes first serves

b ranks for solo persons, a ranks for small groups and s ranks for larger amounts of people

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If Hunts were as cutthroat competitive as some people like to think, anyone outside of the claiming party would be SoL when it came to rewards. Still being able to earn kill credit even when the mob is purple to you suggests that Hunts are supposed to be inclusive. You don't gain anything from secretly killing hunts by yourself anyway so there's absolutely no reason not to wait for other players that you know are on their way.

But Daddy, I want it nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!

That's about the reaction from some people who don't care to be courteous towards others.