I say this because
Theres no kick option which I enjoy but however, people moan when someone goes afk for a minute or two, or when people are gathering.
People moan when others greed on all 210 gear. They say; "Thats not fair! You should let people have the gear." Not to be rude but no. I dont have to. Its greed only. I shouldnt have to pass because people are afraid of losing rolls. I was threatened to be reported if I rolled on 210 gear that wasnt for my class specifically. -.-
I go out to look for buried coffers, people moan. Excuse me, I'm trying to get you all EXTRA loot to roll on. Sorry if thats wrong? Of course I still participate in the fights but I really hate fighting in Diadem. I always get killed, I can't do my rotations correctly because theres always another ninja there distracting me, lag, or the screen blinds me from the flashing lights that appear when over 30+ people attack one mob.
Its a mess. Anyone else feel this way?
Diadem's kinda annoying..
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11-14-2015, 10:03 PMPawsTheKitti123Diadem's kinda annoying..
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11-14-2015, 10:11 PMRufalus
It's something with big potential that introduced a lot of rough edges that need smoothing over. They will gather feedback and make many adjustments. I think not being able to kick and replace members has something to do with it costing fuel tanks to enter which guarantees people 90 mins of time, and same reason it's not on the duty finder so you need to be in a certain location to enter.
I'm trying to just accept the way people want to play in there even if it's counter to my own goals and just take what I can get. The exchange npc for sky pirate spoil tokens needs a filter to not display gear set items. -
11-14-2015, 10:40 PMAshelia_FerronWhy are you getting killed? Only the tank should be taking any serious damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123
How does another ninja prevent you from doing your rotation correctly? Just focus on yourself.
Lag is your own issue.
Turn off effects from people outside your party if you're getting blinded. -
11-14-2015, 10:44 PMColorfulThere's always that one Ninja that applies Dancing Edge very inconsistently, and when you attempt to do it they overwrite it at randoms times and then reapply it 30+ seconds after it wore off. Even when you tell them to stop they persist... that's the only thing I could think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
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11-14-2015, 10:48 PMAlphaSonicTroll enmity abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
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11-14-2015, 10:49 PMWinterLuna
Diadem takes a whole lot of team work. Going off on your own to find coffers can actually hinder the party. If a NM spawns and your party doesn't do enough damage, you won't get credit.
Your party should also have a mutual agreement on the loot. Go with your FC or specify the loot rules in Party Finder. Our FC has a greed only rule, however if the gear is BiS for someone we pass it for them.
It will be a mess if you don't communicate with your party. -
11-14-2015, 10:51 PMAeraLure
The issues you describe are mostly solved by Party Finder. Don't use Duty Finder - agree on the rules with everyone present before you leave. For example, the only runs I go on are 150/180 Greed and 210s are need-only, which is a fairly common setup.
There are some other issues with Diadem, but you'd save yourself at least some trouble by not using DF for it. -
11-14-2015, 11:18 PMMature
I'm loving the diadem! It's FAR from a mess.it's always down who you go in with. If you go random pugs or df you will encounter leeches of all sorts. If you go with friends or an organised party you will have the time of your life :-)
It's not the system if the players. -
11-15-2015, 04:18 AMxXRaineXx
I personally think that if a ilvl210 gear isn't for your main class you should pass it. There is a reason why the community is very salty about these things, people in NA servers are way too greedy.
I play on the JP server and I have not yet encountered any bad things yet. But people here a lot more thoughtful for everyone in the group. -
11-15-2015, 05:00 AMCyrilLuciferEven when communicating with your party, people sometimes just say screw it and go off on their own anyway. When two or more DDs do this, it basically means the entire party can't get credit when there's 20+ people wailing on a NM.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
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11-15-2015, 05:16 AMElim
I actually, surprisingly, enjoy Diadem. So far I've only gone in (mostly) with people from my PvP linkshell though. Haven't had a bad experience. It's a grind fest for sure, but imo it's a billion times better than doing hunts for upgrades. I'd rather jump off a bridge than do hunts.
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11-15-2015, 05:19 AMSelli
Most pugs will pass i210 if it's not for their main (which is usually the class they go on). Every once in a while, you will see a couple people who disagree and say they will roll anyway, and unless they change their mind, people will just leave. It's not worth their time if there's a chance they might not get their loot.
How would you feel, OP, if you lost a Ninja chest piece with VIT, DEX, CRIT, DET, and SKSPD to a healer who didn't even have NIN unlocked? You'd probably be pretty pissed. Which is why people now express common courtesy in this content, especially since you can't replace those who leave, so their requests about the i210 are taken seriously. -
11-15-2015, 05:58 AMTwiliteYeah can't really moan about that when we all can change jobs on the fly in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123
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11-15-2015, 06:15 AMFoxyAreku
Said it before, I'll say it again, why would you duty find this to begin with?
Even if you have no friends or an FC workshop to go from, using party finder and letting everyone know it's a chill run where you can do whatever would be better than randoms.
That is literally not even possible as the ninja would be able to 'need' on it. Unless he's on the wrong class, which would be his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
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11-15-2015, 06:23 AMElimYou can only greed and pass in DF groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxyAreku
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11-15-2015, 07:42 AMKurogaeamy solution for trying to enjoy diadem:Quote:
Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123
1: dont agree to anything
2: make your own rules for courtesy and fairness when it comes to loot, and keep in mind their is no repercussions for greeding everything since you have a right to.
3: if you want to gather, go ahead. Its duty finder. If others wanted to grind for 90 mins straight then that's their problem, otherwise they'd use party finder with rules stating everyone will grind.
4: someone calls you names for playing that mode your way = ignore, or the next best thing, report, then relish the fact that they'll be scrambling in fear of a ban if they keep that shit up.
5: if you have to go to the bathroom or an emergency or even something trivial, just go ahead no ones stopping you, there's not even a kick option. Common courtesy would say brb, but even then they'd still be pissed, just ignore or take your chances with your kindness to just be shoved in your face
6: If your fighting big mobs and your a healer, don't heal random players, they may have pulled something and your next in line for their meal. :/
7: Caves......don't even.
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11-15-2015, 07:53 AMSentaryuu
I've only gone in twice, once with DF and once with the FC. I've yet to see any 210s drop, so don't know how people will react if I greeded on them. But I'm going to greed on everything that drops because I want the Pegasus. Once I have it, I'll start passing for others. The only thing I have a problem with is trying to figure out what the rest of the group wants to do, because the DF group I went in with didn't talk much. I only got to stay for hour with the DF group, because eventually they started leaving and I can't get credit for something with just a few people. Had more fun with the FC, though.
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11-15-2015, 08:04 AMFoxyArekuReally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elim
So...another reason onto the pile of why you shouldn't Duty Finder this. >_>