So when dealing with items such as the Spring Dress that have no stats on them (since I know HQ gives better stats than NQ), what is the difference between NQ and HQ? Is there some sort of aesthetic difference that I am not aware of, or is HQ on those items simply for the bragging rights of saying "I HQ'd that"?
Just it doesn't make sense to me currently, so hoping for some enlightenment. If it's just for bragging rights, why not just NQ the things so it's easier?
HQ/NQ items - No stats - What's the difference?
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11-12-2015, 06:06 PMPaladinleedsHQ/NQ items - No stats - What's the difference?
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11-12-2015, 06:15 PMTiaHeart
If i spend 2 mio for thavnair and theres hq for 2.1 i buckle up those 100k. Its quality man, dont be a bum xD
ppl DO nq things that have no hq use for laziness, but ppl also buy hq for being mental/because the price difference is small or not existing. I think that was the reason, not sure -
11-12-2015, 06:16 PMTint
for some reason people will buy the HQ item over the NQ, even if it's just for glamour. so to sell it faster you should HQ it.
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11-12-2015, 06:24 PMPaladinleedsI'm not a crafter atm, I'm thinking of this more from the buyer's perspective. Though when I get my crafters up, it'll be something to bear in mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by TiaHeart
So are you saying, when there's no stats on the item there's no difference in the item except for the psychological mindset of HQ = automatically better? It's definitely interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tint
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11-13-2015, 01:50 AMPirateCatMostly this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
For items that are trivial to HQ, I figure I might as well since it takes like 30 seconds more time and then I can have the nifty symbol by my sale listing (or give someone the item with a shiny background.)
For items that aren't trivial to HQ (e.g. Thavnairian gear with no HQ mats and no food) I try anyway, since it's practice with the rotation if nothing else and it feels good to get HQ on it. But I'm not going to go out of my way to make sure the mats are HQ first or anything like that since it doesn't really make a difference. -
11-13-2015, 10:49 AMAmelia_Pond_Behemoth
Would you rather have
http://guideimg.alibaba.com/images/s...z_1442390.jpeg
or this?
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20120309234534 -
11-13-2015, 10:57 AMPaladinleedsGiven I can't tell the difference between them in terms of taste, whatever's cheaper will do me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth
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11-15-2015, 04:01 PMImmutExactly. 10char.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
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11-15-2015, 04:05 PMAtoli
Well, HQ items also spiritbond faster, so if you want to get 100% spiritbond on them fast, the HQ version is the better choice too.
Some people are sentimental like that about lore reasons (since spiritbonding means that item is so precious to you and so well-worn and stuff). -
11-16-2015, 03:58 PMPaladinleedsOh, thanks, now that I wasn't aware of. While for stuff without stats I'm not sure how useful that is (can the Spring/Thavnairian sets even be converted to materia!?), I can see why that would definitely help. I haven't yet started spritbonding my Spring/Thavnairian sets (I'm holding off in-case I decide to go back male and give say the Spring set to a female friend of mine who's coming to FFXIV, if I start spiritbonding/glamouring then the item becomes bound to me), but I see the appeal of it. I love it when I see "Your spiritbond with the [item] is complete."Quote:
Originally Posted by Atoli
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11-17-2015, 06:22 AMShadygrove
For me, as a crafter, I want to make the item HQ.
I don't care if it doesn't sell for a single gil more. -
11-17-2015, 07:16 AMWhiteroom
Mostly ego.
Had an FC crafter make something for glamour back in ARR. I gave him all NQ mats and it still cost me about 2 million, almost all I had. I said NQ is fine, it's glamour. His ego wouldn't let him do that and he lost the mats to failure. Just because he wanted to say he did it HQ. That really annoyed me. -
11-17-2015, 06:20 PMPaladinleedsDid he pay for the replacement mats for you or did you have to rebuy them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom
I try to HQ where I can, but if an FC member said "NQ is fine, it's for glamour" I would nuke my ego so damn hard I'd end up in hospital if I tried to HQ it. -
11-18-2015, 08:03 AMKeldion
One possible reason you might try to HQ such an item with no statistical change is for Free Company credits.
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11-19-2015, 03:11 PMTiaHeartAnd if its both the same? 2.00$ vs 2.00$? ^^ Admit you want the blue tiger already :p (although "great value" impresses me a lot lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
ps yes the tiger itself isnt blue, dont even... -
12-05-2015, 11:06 PMPaladinleedsBah! I completely forgot about that. Now that makes more sense why you'd still try to HQ something. Though it still doesn't mean there's a difference at the buyer's perspective. Aside from the spiritbonding thing. But I suppose as these no-stat items are meant for RP/glamour purposes, the feeling of binding the item to your soul makes more sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keldion
BUT THE TIGER ISN'T BLUE!Quote:
Originally Posted by TiaHeart
Though in all fairness, yes, I'll take the Frosties if they're the same price (or cheaper). Thing is, I won't pay even a penny extra for them. I'm a tight Yorkshireman that way. -
12-06-2015, 04:26 AMCallbackWhat, did he start with some bad luck, try for a reclaim and fail that? Usually "failing" a HQ attempt simply means ending up NQ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom
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12-07-2015, 10:00 PMVidu
I can give 2 answers to this questition:
1) My pride as a crafter - as said so before... I've got the stats and the skill to make it HQ, so I'll do it!
2) And, thats kinda more important: To figure out a rotation for items of that level - specially for the new master/star recipes. Trying and progressing while crafting an item that still has its main value (the look) even if its turn out HQ is my way to go to figure out how to craft the "real" gear without the risk to loose any materials.