Dravanians have lived in Eorzea at least during Allagan Empire

One of the nodes mentions that they have captive Dravanian (of which we're to slaughter).

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I suppose this isn't too surprising since we know Midgardsomnr's children have existed since the 1st Astral Era, but this at least confirms that Dravania has been dragon territory at least during the Allagan Empire's reign.

Additionally, we know that the did not stop with just Mercydian dragons, but they captured and enslaved Dravanian dragons as well! So this bit of info might very well give credence to the theory that Nidhogg was the powerful dragon that escaped from Asyz Lla thousands of years ago

My question to this is why The dravanian horde survive? While the Mercydians did not?

There where 3 great dragons living on those times, and they didnt have issued with the allagans.

My best guess was that Dravania was "last on the list" to be conquered? Afterall, Mercydia vs Allagan Empire happened in the last few decades (?) of the Empire when clone Xande ruled.

I imagine the 1st war took where original Bahamut was killed took a massive death toll on Mercydian. Then when Primal Bahamut was summoned the remainder may have been tempered and subsequently killed and/or captured. Then there's the other remaining dragons (maybe tempered too?) were locked up in Dalamud/ underground to act as "prayer" for him.

Once the Meracydians were defeated the Allagans turned their attention to Dravania? I am sure during that time there was civil war + eventual Umbral era, so they could not have done a full scale invasion?

Remember that Dravania was on Eorzea.
On those times Eorzea was the central region of the allagan empire. My only theory on why the allagans didnt put much attention to the dravanians is the same reason why the Black Shroud survived.

The allagan scholars broke into the Dragon language and even coined words of their own. The dragonspeak lesson from the GM behind the concept explained that they somewhat failed at it, but it was obvious that they coincided. That's why some parts of Azys La have draconian names.

It could also be the Echo translating the Allagan term for Dravanian for our understanding. There was likely a group there then as Nidhogg, Ratatoskr, and Hraesvelgr and their dragons seem to have been there nigh on forever.

It is kind of weird that it says Dravanians, but then tells us to go kill dragons with the prefix Mercydian...

And yep, Midgardsormr is a big poopy head for not giving me a history lesson... Oh you'll be my own private taxi service, but you wont tell me a damned thing about anything? Thanks Middy-chan...

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Originally Posted by myahele

My best guess was that Dravania was "last on the list" to be conquered?

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Mercydia was last on the list, Xandes turned to the Cloud of Darkness after the entire world was his, IIRC. Crystal Tower was even built next to the lake where Midgardsormr was meant to be protecting, so something must have happened...

I like to think the Allag actually stomped on Midgardsormr, and being right next door, Nidhogg, Ratatoskr, and Hraesvelgr did the smart thing and offered no resistance... Meanwhile Tiamat and Bahamut didn't directly witness this so they still put up a fight... It's also possible that they weren't all hatched at the same time, with Tiamat and Bahamut being the first born? Nidhogg, Ratatoskr, and Hraesvelgr then came later, and when the Allag attacked they were still "children", while Tiamat and Bahamut were "adults"?

Coupled with the 1.0 opening, and Tiamats mention of other Primals/Eikons being sealed away by the Allag... I'm wondering if perhaps Allag forced Middy to guard the lake and there isn't really any mythological significance to the place (I still like the idea that the "Mor Dhona is the center of the planet and source of all aether!" myth stemming from Crystal Tower powering, and being at the center of a world dominating empire...), since that could perhaps explain his little date with the Agrius. He destroyed the Agrius to comply with the Allagan orders (protect the seal), but "accidentally" destroyed the seal in the process, meaning he was no longer bound by those orders...

I think it isn't so much that Silvertear Lake is the center of the world, but more like the center of Eorzea since there's the mountain in Othard that's their aetheric center. Then again, both places could just be big Primal prisons built by the Allag.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

It could also be the Echo translating the Allagan term for Dravanian for our understanding. There was likely a group there then as Nidhogg, Ratatoskr, and Hraesvelgr and their dragons seem to have been there nigh on forever.

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I was running Arey the other day with my FC, meaning I finally got a chance to look around, and I actually found Allagan Internment Rings like what was on Bahamut and Tiamat just before you get to Nidhogg's throne. Apparently Nidhogg was the other Dragon held at Azys Lla thus explaing his distrust of mortals.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

I was running Arey the other day with my FC, meaning I finally got a chance to look around, and I actually found Allagan Internment Rings like what was on Bahamut and Tiamat just before you get to Nidhogg's throne. Apparently Nidhogg was the other Dragon held at Azys Lla thus explaing his distrust of mortals.

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Wasn't there an official statement made by Koji Fox saying the Allagan structures we see in the Aery are just debris from Dalamud? Or am I terribly missinformed here?

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Wasn't there an official statement made by Koji Fox saying the Allagan structures we see in the Aery are just debris from Dalamud? Or am I terribly missinformed here?

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Did he? Because I'd like to think that Kaiser's theory sounds rather plausible. And it explains the Dravanians being in Azys Lla, because the Allagans, being the scientists they are, would have been interested in the differences between the Dravanian and Meracydian dragons, and Nidhogg's excape may have simply prompted the Eorzeans who got to Azys Lla to assume all of the dragons there are Meracydian if they didn't consult a Node.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Did he? Because I'd like to think that Kaiser's theory sounds rather plausible. And it explains the Dravanians being in Azys Lla, because the Allagans, being the scientists they are, would have been interested in the differences between the Dravanian and Meracydian dragons, and Nidhogg's excape may have simply prompted the Eorzeans who got to Azys Lla to assume all of the dragons there are Meracydian if they didn't consult a Node.

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It is, annonymous put say it somewhere.

There are other fragments of alligan tech in the Aery but this ring in particular was an Internment ring Identicalnto the one binding Tiamat. It's not big enough to have been one of the rings binding Bahamut.

I'll attempt to get a screenshot next time I'm in there but it's not easy to post screenshots from a ps4.

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Originally Posted by WyrahFhurrst

Did he? Because I'd like to think that Kaiser's theory sounds rather plausible. And it explains the Dravanians being in Azys Lla, because the Allagans, being the scientists they are, would have been interested in the differences between the Dravanian and Meracydian dragons, and Nidhogg's excape may have simply prompted the Eorzeans who got to Azys Lla to assume all of the dragons there are Meracydian if they didn't consult a Node.

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Not that there is much difference between their forms. Only ones specific to Meracydia are the coeurl dragons and twintanias.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace

There are other fragments of alligan tech in the Aery but this ring in particular was an Internment ring Identicalnto the one binding Tiamat. It's not big enough to have been one of the rings binding Bahamut.

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Its where Nidhogg do live. Maybe it was binding Nidhogg long ago?

It was confirmed by Ferne that the Allagan tech in the Aery are simply pieces of Dalamund. The intent was to show just how far reaching the event was in End of Era.