SE. You make me sad. Maybe i'm jumping the gun on this one but I was highly looking forward to the crossover event. As a veteran of XI, I can honestly say that I am highly disappointed with the crossover event. While I do understand that you are doing it commemorate the new patch, it does anything but hit my nostalgia button.
Most of the people I still talk to agree with me that 75 cap was XI, and it died and/or became something else after the cap was raised and most of my memories are from that era. One of which would be leveling from 1 to 75 on pretty much nothing but clippers/snippers/crabs and their many forms. With that being said, I couldn't think of anything more worthy to commemorate the event with a crab mount. Among other things.
Other ideas I heard from friends was glamour/hair from NPCs such as Prishe, Naja, Tenzen, Lion, Aldo, or several others that where big parts of the game from start to finish. Shantotto /laugh emote? There are tons of things that come to mind. Not someone that was just recently added to the game. The reason? granted I don't know the numbers, but it seems like most of the people that still play XI, only play XI and most of the people that play XIV, don't play XI.
Please don't assume I'm saying this event is bad or a waste of time by any means. I doubt it will be. Its just that I hope you do more events like this and plenty of crossover events. I love that you added M.abj tank set, and the Ares set. I hope in time you add Homam set amount others, even if its just glamour.
FFXI Crossover Event - No Crab Mount?
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11-07-2015, 07:08 AMMrThermFFXI Crossover Event - No Crab Mount?
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11-07-2015, 07:17 AMNovaLevossida
This event unfortunately is just a promotion for the last update FFXI will get rather than a celebration of its entire existence. I would have loved to see a crab mount, seen Prishe and Maat walking around, and even have a joke fight against a trio of NMs like Bubbly Bernie, Valkurm Emperor, and Leaping Lizzy. Unfortunately it's just a promotion rather than a celebration.
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11-07-2015, 07:29 AMSkivvy
Well, to be fair, I'm sure they're putting out this content for their current customers who have been supporting them all these years while the "75 cap" crowd bailed. Also it may spark some interest in old players to see how the XI series ends. In my mind, it makes sense that they would stick with more current content this time around. We already had the Shantotto event for your nostalgia, time for something new.
And personally, if they're giving us a mount - I'd take my old goobbue-mobile in a heartbeat!
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11-07-2015, 07:37 AMAlahra
I fear the crabs in FFXI far too much to ever risk making one into a mount. I worry that my Smallshell minion is plotting to kill me already.
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11-07-2015, 07:38 AMNovaLevossidaTo be fair, it's far less that the old crowd bailed and a lot more that SE changed the game into something so vastly different than what the game previously had been before Abyssea. We hadn't really seen an MMO change so drastically since Ultima Online had its Age of Shadows and changed from what it was into something wanted to be Diablo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
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11-07-2015, 07:42 AMSkivvyOK, and how many years ago now did the game make that drastic change? Should they just ignore all their new content that the developers have worked hard on to feed old nostalgic players?Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
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11-07-2015, 07:58 AMTilgungThe changes to XI weren't nearly as drastic as you make them out to be. Content was more accessible and removed the need for alliances by making each individual character/job vastly more powerful than they were before. A fantastic move, because gathering 18 people for outdated/one-time-only fights took stupid amounts of time, even during NA Prime Time.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
The problem that followed was they utterly annihilated all of the old (but still mostly useful content) and it went to Abyssea only until Voidwatch, Legion, Neo-Nyzul Isle and another difficulty tier for Salvage was introduced. And they then proceeded to demolish most of those with Seekers of Adoulin Content which.. isn't as diverse as the days of old. Dynamis, Sky, Sea, HNMs, Appolyon/Temenos, Nyzul Isle, Salvage, ZNMs, Beseiged, Campaign, SCNMs, KCNMs, etc etc. -
11-07-2015, 10:17 AMNovaLevossidaIf you read what I wrote, I actually said to celebrate its entire existence, not just one portion of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skivvy
They basically killed the exp parties in favor of leveling in a way completely devoid of any thought, invalidated all of the years of horizontal progression endgame, and funneled people into groups of "try to hit it with the right abilities and spells" as a replacement for all of those unique and varied events. I don't know how anyone could reasonably say that wasn't drastic.Quote:
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11-07-2015, 10:53 AMAzazua_azurabubbly burner and valkum emperor are in ff14 1 is a fate boss mob, and 1 is a renamed B rank hunt mob.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
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11-07-2015, 10:56 AMAzazua_azuraTHIS pretty much what happen in ff11 was abyssea made everything irellivent over night, we talking about groups who have been doing dynamis for 5+ years having wasted their time. People just running nyzule isle wasting their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
then they added dungeon tome books Grounds of valor (think repeatable hunt log) which trivialised leveling people would form anb allience in what 70% would just afk and leech leveling. They unsyced all story content and the player based pretty much said, just cap ur level and solo the story. Players then started to leech endgame content, it wasn't so much the raise in level cap it, it is what ended up happening the cap when from 50 in FF11 launch to 75 in FF11 zilart and stayed 75 up till the last released expac prior to abyssea. we talking a good 7 years or so. The community pretty much became even more hostile then it was. So there was more or less a mass exodues to ff14 1.0 after that. Or ppl just quit mmo perioud -
11-07-2015, 11:46 AMGreedaloxLet's be honest though. I loved XI with all my heart, but 2-12 hour exp parties were not exactly "thoughtful" experiences. It was literally repetition in its most untainted form.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
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11-07-2015, 12:37 PMTeslo
Rarab Mount. Yes please.
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11-07-2015, 01:14 PMNaraku_Diabolos
I grew way too tired of FFXI because I could never get a party. After playing 7 years, my only high level job is RDM39 and all my other jobs are 25-32. I never wanted to play just ONE job. However getting exp parties was hell. My character is now logged off for good in Qufim which I was looking for a party last time. Plus I hated the sense of no identity because my Elvaan looked like everyone else's.
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11-07-2015, 02:43 PMTwilite/comfortQuote:
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Don't worry. You're no longer in Kuftal Tunnel with Cancer and his conveniently placed undead buddies. -
11-07-2015, 04:10 PMAzazua_azuraif you was silent and treated ur party like npc..... yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedalox
if you communicated and start to talk to ur teamates, it was a blast. :)
Hell i remember 1 party i was in, it was the desert area killing the ant beastmen things I was dancer when it first launch and some person accidently hit the dhamel that spawns at the camp. our pld DIES and i run to raboa get /war. run back provoke the thing and tanked it, it uses second wind and gets full hp and i still tanked it keeping my tp up to self cure. This was back before dancer was updated to be able to duel weird so i was a dancer with 1 dagger. With me tanking, we killed the thing raised the pld i switched back to /nin and ppl was like 0_0 dancer could tank?!? -
11-07-2015, 05:35 PMTilgungCould be worse. Boyahda Tree is in the middle of nowhere. Nothing like your puller accidentally grabbing Aquarius and the tank deciding it's no biggy. WHM reraise fell off some time ago? RIP Party.Quote:
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11-07-2015, 06:39 PMWelsper59
I'm just glad Bubbly Bernie will continue to live on (repeatedly) through XI eventual end.
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11-07-2015, 06:56 PMWelsper59Very true, but remember that it wasn't as tedious as it is here, at least traditionally. Each mob you killed (in most non-exp farm parties at max level) was essentially an A rank Hunt mob here. Each enemy posed some sort of threat to your group if people didn't pay attention, unlike here where we sneeze and our normal exp mobs die in a group setting. Chain exp here is decent but hardly worth the while. Chain exping in XI was the equivalent of clearing FATEs for highest exp possible every 20-60sec, depending on level and group comp, which is generally something that won't happen in most zones of XIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greedalox
The awarded exp served more than one purpose too, including points toward making your max level characters abilities/spells/traits/stats stronger. It was almost like our traditional grind in any aspect of this game, with tomes/seals/gear/etc, simply due to how important exp served there. When you went overkill on the exp parties though, that's when it got ridiculously monotonous, but those didn't really exist until max level and if you actually stayed for more than a couple hours. Admittedly, those very long hours weren't out of the norm. -
11-08-2015, 03:20 AMAlahraI used to hone Utsusemi timing on the Steelshells that were on the top floor. I loved Boyahda (and Zi'Tah--I wish we had furnishings that were like the crystals there).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilgung
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11-08-2015, 04:21 AMMrThermQuote:
Originally Posted by Azazua_azura
Yes! This is another great idea!
Somehow this has turned from a "lets give SE another idea for another crossover event, maybe" into a "lets bitch about xi and all its flaws" thread. You all make me sad panda and remind me as to why I avoid these forums. -
11-08-2015, 05:33 AMTsukino
They do an awful job all around of representing FFXI. About 30 amazing and memorable story characters to choose from and we get a comic relief side character with a generic player character model for our Dissidia character, all because they wanted to plug the overpriced "add-on" garbage they were making at the time.
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11-08-2015, 06:13 AMTwiliteHas happened to me before :) RR was up lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilgung
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11-08-2015, 06:26 AMQuesseIt was drastic. I'm from the 75 crowd. I left... was thoroughly disappointed in what they did to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by NovaLevossida
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11-08-2015, 06:29 AMTwilite
Abyssea was pretty much the beginning of the end.
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11-08-2015, 06:32 AMAlahraI left during Aht Urghan originally but came back in the 99 era, and honestly, I have just as many great memories from that time as I do during the 75 era. Abyssea was definitely a big shift for the game but I wish I had never left for WoW, personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twilite