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You don't always have to sell in bulk. Sometimes your stuff moves faster if you split quantities.

The other day I bought HQ food for a CUL quest. There were a bunch of x99, but a fair number of 3-packs. I bought a 3-pack, turned 1 in, and sold the other 2 separately slightly increasing the unit price. They were both sold within a day. Figured they would since it's a quest turn-in.

Shh you aren't supposed to reveal the secret.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

You don't always have to sell in bulk. Sometimes your stuff moves faster if you split quantities.

The other day I bought HQ food for a CUL quest. There were a bunch of x99, but a fair number of 3-packs. I bought a 3-pack, turned 1 in, and sold the other 2 separately slightly increasing the unit price. They were both sold within a day. Figured they would since it's a quest turn-in.

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sssshhhh.... don't tell them that.

But listing 5x99 stacks in 10s or 5s takes forever, why would I do that when stacks of 99s sell in less than 24 hours anyway?

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Originally Posted by Colorful

But listing 5x99 stacks in 10s or 5s takes forever, why would I do that when stacks of 99s sell in less than 24 hours anyway?

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Might sell more of them more quickly, who knows.

I know I never buy big stacks. I either look for the smallest stack, or wait for there to be a smaller stack. It's annoying to have to buy 50+ when I only need 1-3, then to have to turn around and resell and hope I make back the money I just effectively wasted.

It just takes some discretion with how much in a stack you should put up. If you see an overabundance of x99, split up your stacks and sill some small and mid-size stacks. I don't even mind paying a higher unit price.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Might sell more of them more quickly, who knows.

I know I never buy big stacks. I either look for the smallest stack, or wait for there to be a smaller stack. It's annoying to have to buy 50+ when I only need 1-3, then to have to turn around and resell and hope I make back the money I just effectively wasted.

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I'm in no real hurry, but it depends on the item I guess. If it's glamour prisms, then yeah, don't bother selling them in large stacks, but if it's Fleece, Dragon Skins, Gigantoad Skins or whatever else, I usually sell them in the largest stack possible.

I never list things in stacks bigger than 5 for prisms (usually individually, though), 1 for quest turn ins, and 25 for crafting mats(with a few stacks at 10 as well). I too hate having to buy 99 of an item when I only need 5-10. It's annoying.

psa: articicially increasing the stock by selling in small stacks does buyers a diservice unless they need stuff in small quanity.
personbally SE shoulda just set the MB up similar to the ff11 AH as in you had a singles catagory and a stack catagory. so ppl can pick which they wanted.
(and we had less slots in ff11 then we do here)

Unless it's a particularly low priced item, (less than 50 gil per item that I'm just using as padding for my sell item list), I almost always list items in stacks of 1, or sometimes 2-3 if I know it's an item that is needed for daily turn ins. The ONLY time I buy bulk items is cheap materials that I'm using for quick synthesis. Otherwise I either find a single or small stack, or I wait and get it another time/somewhere else.....

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Originally Posted by Colorful

I'm in no real hurry, but it depends on the item I guess. If it's glamour prisms, then yeah, don't bother selling them in large stacks, but if it's Fleece, Dragon Skins, Gigantoad Skins or whatever else, I usually sell them in the largest stack possible.

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For those items comprising the base material on many, many crafts I'm more than happy to buy full stacks because I know I'll use them.

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Originally Posted by Azazua_azura

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I don't know if you've ever played Runescape, but their Grand Exchange system was the best I've seen an MMO. You search for an item and select it, it will automatically show the average price the item sells for you can make a buy order for that much or increase and decrease it however you like, I usually increase the price by 5%. Once you make the buy order it searches for items with that selected price or lower, and fills out the order. None available? It keeps the buy order open. Best part was that you can buy 1000 of an item, and it would grab 20 from this seller, and then 300 from that seller, 200 from that seller, etc and give you the change left over, it was also cross-server. Not sure why other MMOs haven't adapted the system, it solves undercutting for the most part, item value would change 5-10% over a few months-years rather than 50%+ overnight here.

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Also keep in mind, they stripped free trade when this was implemented, and it caused a huge backlash from the playerbase, until they caved and reversed it after a LONG time. I'd be all for a Grand Exchange here, without limitations like that again.

No! You're on my server. Don't give away my secrets! :eek:

How dare you reveal our secret?! :mad:

Still wish we could just buy whatever quantity we wanted from stacks on MB, would make it easier for consumers to buy only what they want, and make it easier for suppliers since they wouldn't have to take up valuable space to split up their stacks.

Should this really be secret though? I'm just voicing what I as a consumer would like to see. I appreciate sellers of raw materials. Put up a stack of ore not available from NPC vendors, I'll buy your entire stack because I know I'm gonna process them eventually. Crafters who sell secondary materials, need to exercise more discretion in their listings. If I only need 3, I'm not going buy a stack of 50.

PSA: you have limited listings so people won't put up listings that would net them negligible gains. That's why many times you see big bulks of stuff, because only then it would net the seller an income worthy of using that space.

Stuff sells faster in smaller stacks, freeing up space.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

Stuff sells faster in smaller stacks, freeing up space.

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That sounds right on paper but in practice it's a reaaaaaally wild bet. Selling by stacks of 1 or 2 would take me 50 to 99 listings to sell a full stack, and by that time I may have very well sold a few stacks of 99. It also depends on what you're selling. Logs, ores, etc. constantly sell in full stacks, meanwhile you won't be able to sell full stacks of a mat only used in 1 or 2 recipes that are not frequently crafted unless you get lucky and someone decides to grind that on quick synth for xp.

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Originally Posted by Sicno

That sounds right on paper but in practice it's a reaaaaaally wild bet. Selling by stacks of 1 or 2 would take me 50 to 99 listings to sell a full stack, and by that time I may have very well sold a few stacks of 99. It also depends on what you're selling. Logs, ores, etc. constantly sell in full stacks, meanwhile you won't be able to sell full stacks of a mat only used in 1 or 2 recipes that are not frequently crafted unless you get lucky and someone decides to grind that on quick synth for xp.

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I don't disagree with you on some of the more common items like logs and ores. I happily buy those in bulk. But not everything should be sold in bulk. And I'm not suggesting all your lesser-used materials all be sold 1 or 2 at a time. Why not sell stacks of varying sizes? Familiarize yourself with recipes that use some of these lesser-used materials. If it's common to require 2 in a recipe, try selling different size stacks in even numbers.

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Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth

I don't disagree with you on some of the more common items like logs and ores. I happily buy those in bulk. But not everything should be sold in bulk. And I'm not suggesting all your lesser-used materials all be sold 1 or 2 at a time. Why not sell stacks of varying sizes? Familiarize yourself with recipes that use some of these lesser-used materials. If it's common to require 2 in a recipe, try selling different size stacks in even numbers.

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Because like I said before, at those sizes people may not even bother to sell them and just trash them. Those bulks you see are usually the result of a grind for other purposes, like trying to get the HQ versions of a gathered item for GC deliveries or quick synth grinding for xp. They didn't make them/get them with the intention to sell them, they would otherwise trash them but they're seeing if they can get any profit from them.

I do always find it hilarious to see stacks of 99 when its not needed. I mean logs and crafting, they sell much better in stacks of 10 or 20. So I know I always make money from them :D

I'm constantly selling 40/40... I'm not going to sell 11 stacks of 9 if I have 99.... Give me more retainers and I'll give you a more competitive market.

I don't see the problem. Everyone here seems to say that smaller stacks sell better, so buy those.

They were supposedly going to let you select an amount to purchase from listings that had more than one of the thing, but that update kind of went poof and was never mentioned again.