Krile (potential role in 3.1 and beyond)

For some reason I didn't see a thread dedicated to the newest Scions so here it is.

In 3.1 we will finally get the answer for Minfilia's question way back in 2.1

Krile is here.

After we celebrated and gave everyone cheese, let's look at the questions that her arrival raises. Because there is a lot.

Is she just a Student of Baldesion or someone more important? With a name like Krile Mayer Baldesion she might be the Teacher of Baldesion.

Is she related to Papalymo?

Is she evil? She is a lala so she might be.

When and how did she wake up from her coma?

Does she know what Nabriales did to the Island of Baldesion?

What is she doing here now?

Is she on Elidibus' payroll?

Why is she so damned cute?

Okay, I'm out of question. For now.

My prediction? Moenbryda route: she dies at the end of 3.1

Since we have zero context or knowledge about XIV Krile beyond that she's a Student of Baldesion, was in contact with Minfilia prior to the Isle of Val's destruction and being put into a coma, and is apparently a lalafell, I'm just going to leave this here as the answer to any and every hypothesis anyone can come up with:

http://i.imgur.com/aHDWU67.gif

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Originally Posted by Cilia

Since we have zero context or knowledge about XIV Krile beyond that she's a Student of Baldesion, was in contact with Minfilia prior to the Isle of Val's destruction and being put into a coma, and is apparently a lalafell, I'm just going to leave this here as the answer to any and every hypothesis anyone can come up with:

http://i.imgur.com/aHDWU67.gif

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Oh...my....GOD


Krile is an alien!!!!!!




Jokes aside while it is true that we don't have much to talk about just yet, beyond: "Yaaaay, Krile is finally here" We now have a thread to dump all the Krile related stuff once we have actually seen her in action.

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

My prediction? Moenbryda route: she dies at the end of 3.1

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Sadly this might actually happen. Although I personally hope that she permanently replaces Minfilia the sexy lamp post, as antecedent.

No, Krile can't die, we need more Lalafells on MSQ D:::::::::::

Krile will find out that Tataru is evil and she will replace her role and everything will be fine!

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Originally Posted by ChocoFeru

No, Krile can't die, we need more Lalafells on MSQ D:::::::::::

Krile will find out that Tataru is evil and she will replace her role and everything will be fine!

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She will replace Tataru. It's not like you can tell the difference :D Oh wait.....

Kriles current story somewhat mirrors Final Fantasy V, where ExDeath uses the Void to destroy several areas, including Castle Tycoon, which results in Lenna being MIA for a brief while, only to return possessed by a Demon of the Rift... So it is entirely possible Krile has been possessed in a similar fashion... I kind of expect Minfilia to fill Lennas shoes, as far as that references goes, though...

I'm guessing they've actually introduced Krile to try and tie over the Ivalice Espers into the game, some of which were based on past villains. We've already partly had Belias revealed in the Summoner questline, and with Tiamat revealing that more Primals/Eikons were sealed away by the Allag, I expect we'll see the Ivalice group eventually, what with the ties to the Ascians, or just the fact that they're the next logical step after we've gone through the main six elements... Exodus, the Judge-Sal was based on ExDeath (and Zeromus, the Condemner was based on.... Zeromus... Hope that's what the moon scene will eventually be about...), who in Final Fantasy V was originally sealed in the Great Forest of Moore... Given the Allags disdain for religion, I doubt they called the Twelveswood such... Moment the main scenario takes us to the Twelveswood, I'm getting ready to call it...

Oh, and they better make a splinter joke, that would tickle me pink...

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Sadly this might actually happen. Although I personally hope that she permanently replaces Minfilia the sexy lamp post, as antecedent.

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Unless she predates Minfilia as the first known Echo-User, her having the title will not happen, her having the osition of leading the Scions however? THAT is a possibility.

She's probably possessed by an Ascian. >w>

I don't think she will die. It's becoming such a trend for people to assume that main characters will die, ever since of what happened recently in the MSQ.

What's weird about Krile is her name. It's not a name fitting for a Lalafell at all.
Although, Krile's japanese name (in FF V) is Kururu. I wonder how the localization team will handle that.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

I don't think she will die. It's becoming such a trend for people to assume that main characters will die, ever since of what happened recently in the MSQ.

What's weird about Krile is her name. It's not a name fitting for a Lalafell at all.
Although, Krile's japanese name in (FF V) is Kururu. I wonder how the localization team will handle that.

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Simple her real name is Kururu Kuru but she has Krile as a nickname. the "Baldesion" part may or may not be a title, or she may be the child of a Lalafell and Hyur (like Hilda is born of Hyur and Elezen)

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Is she related to Papalymo?

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I dont think she is related to him. She appears to be a plains folk while papalymo is a dunesfolk, though its not like sub races cant mix at all, lol.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Is she evil? She is a lala so she might be.

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I loved that this part is included in the list.

I once had a discussion with an FC mate of mine back before expansion where I said that SE seems to go out of their way to make Lalafels seem evil whenever possible, and that they're a terrible race. He defended them and said I was crazy, to which I responded with a list of Lalafels whom are evil, turned evil, outright betrayed us, are overall jerks, or are nice people... but otherwise totally useless and cause more problems than they fix (Tataru, I'm looking at you. Pre 3.0, obviously). I genuinely surprised myself at how long the list actually got, even without the nameless lala npc's that show up in to screw us over in cutscenes from time to time (ie: the leader of the group that betray's Alphinaud at the end of ARR is a lalafel).

It's kind of a strange trend, but it makes me giggle a little. I often wonder if SE realizes how much distrust they've created in the lalafel race because of all of the bad apples we've seen (especially in Ul'dah). New lalafels show up, and everyone's like "alright... so when's this one gonna turn evil?" lol

How many evil lalafels do we have Februs? Could you write the list? So far I know just 3

I feel like the timing between Krile being in a coma and then being on a different continent no where near a major port is a bit (pardon the pun) short, I would be surprised if this is an imposter/doppleganger and the actual Krile is still snoozing in Sharlayan.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

...or she may be the child of a Lalafell and Hyur (like Hilda is born of Hyur and Elezen)

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That part may not be so simple, since in the japanese version of the story, she will definitely not have the name Krile. So it's not possible for her to have a Hyur parent.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

That part may not be so simple, since in the japanese version of the story, she will definitely not have the name Krile. So it's not possible for her to have a Hyur parent.

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There is still the title aspect though, and that is assuming that SE would intend "Baldesion" to be part of the title.

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Originally Posted by CyberGoblin

I feel like the timing between Krile being in a coma and then being on a different continent no where near a major port is a bit (pardon the pun) short, I would be surprised if this is an imposter/doppleganger and the actual Krile is still snoozing in Sharlayan.

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Eh, its been a lot longer than it seems since then. There's a few points in the MSQ where NPCs state X amount of time has passed, and some of those "jumps" are quite long (I can think of the few days you spend at Camp Cloudtop early on, and there's I believe a fortnight waiting for the Manacutters to be built, as well as some time spent with the Vanu Vanu around 57. Not to mention the week or so you spend in Dragonhead after you take asylum there...)

I think someone had put together the amount of time that the game says has passed since we entered Ishgard, but I cant remember where that is. At least a month seems likely.

so long as we check her for splinters we should be fine :D

Slycer on the bluegartr forums posted a translation of a Famitsu interview.

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Krile will play an active role in one of the storylines.

What will become of the new character Krile who just recently appeared?

Yoshida: Of course, they will be an important character in the story. Looking back on the 2.X series, we believe that there was too much focus on the main characters, so based on that, we've divided the story of the 3.X series into several storylines and the content and main story will develop in parallel paths. Krile is a key player in one of the storylines and will play an important role.

So you've learned from past mistakes.

Yoshida: In the 2.X series, there were the problems with the three nations, the primals, and the Crystal Braves which were all incorporated into the main storyline. As a result, while players did look forward to the storyline content, if they wanted to unlock the playable content quickly, they would skip through the scenario to unlock the content. In the 3.X series, rather than having a single main storyline which also unlocks the content, we've decided to have multiple parallel paths so that players can start wherever they like. For example, you start the primal quest and unlock it right away without being forced to skip through the main scenario.

If that storyline is split, are you saying that Krile won't be part of the main scenario?

Yoshida: Since it will be their first appearance, they will be introduced in the main scenario of patch 3.1. The role of Krile will become more clear starting from patch 3.2.

Will any news about other members of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn besides Y'shtola become clear in the main scenario?

Yoshida: Whether they'll come back or not... you might have heard someone's voice in the trailer video (laughs).

I was expecting them to return one by one in each patch throughout this expansion.

Yoshida: I can see why you would think that, and that may be what happens (laughs). Please play through it to actually confirm, but we've already decided all of their fates.

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So I think we can almost 100% rule out the Moenbryda route.

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Originally Posted by kuma_aus

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That article was a very interesting read! Now I'm even more curious what 3.1 will bring, lol. About Krile... yes, it really sounds like she won't share Moen's fate. At least she will survive for more than a few patch cycles. Btw., did somebody recognize which voice he could mean? I watched the english trailer, but play with japanese audio, so I don't really know the english voices :/

Maybe what we suppose was Krile's voice ist Krile's or maybe Aymeric's voice isnt his voice.

That my only 2 suspicious voices.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Maybe what we suppose was Krile's voice ist Krile's or maybe Aymeric's voice isnt his voice.

That my only 2 suspicious voices.

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Or maybe there was something alittle familar about the voice that ask if the WoL was the WoL (before the patch name popped up)

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Or maybe there was something alittle familar about the voice that ask if the WoL was the WoL (before the patch name popped up)

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Yea you right, maybe Thancred? but why he would said that?

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Yea you right, maybe Thancred? but why he would said that?

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I wonder if "So you are the Warrior of Light, the savior of Eorzea" is actually aimed at us then... What if it is aimed at Derplander? Either a "You were the chosen one!" kind of thing, or because the Warriors of Darkness consider themselves to be good...

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Originally Posted by kuma_aus

Slycer on the bluegartr forums posted a translation of a Famitsu interview.

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So we are getting more Primals then, just perhaps not in 3.1, and their story will be detached from the main scenario? Well well, the fact that we have to have Krile introduced first certainly has me leaning more towards Ivalice Espers making their long awaited appearance...

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Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Btw, did somebody recognize which voice he could mean? I watched the english trailer, but play with japanese audio, so I don't really know the english voices :/

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They replaced the entirety of the English voice cast, excepting Aymeric and Haurchefant, between 2.5.5 and 3.0, so there's no way English players would be able to guess that.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

How many evil lalafels do we have Februs? Could you write the list? So far I know just 3

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Aw man... that requires another cutscene binge...

Well... it is an interesting question though. Next time I log into the game I'll give it a head count and get back to you. I'll probably miss a couple, but I'll see what I can do. Just gimme a day or two. Not sure how much time I'll have.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

That part may not be so simple, since in the japanese version of the story, she will definitely not have the name Krile. So it's not possible for her to have a Hyur parent.

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Yes, the thing is her original japanese name fits a Lala perfectly. Her english, not so much.

About the voice: Check the japanese version. In 2.5 Lucia's narration was changed to Urianger's narration in the English version.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

About the voice: Check the japanese version. In 2.5 Lucia's narration was changed to Urianger's narration in the English version.

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Comparing the VAs between different languages is always good (especially since I heard the JP cast didnt' change as much) but I wanted to point out that German and French both also have Urianger open 2.5 as well :p

I have had some ideas about this! In FFV, Krile is actually the princess of the kingdom of Bal. Well, we know from Minfilia that FFXIV's Krile is from the Isle of Val. Val and Bal are spelled the same in Japanese. The Isle of Val has "disappeared" ...while that may have been a metaphor for being destroyed, it could be literal, as one of the major happenings in FFV is towns and areas of the map being sucked into the Void.

In FFV, Krile also has special telepathic powers that others do not, allowing her to communicate with dragons and moogles, as well as sense when things were happening. In FFXIV terms, that ability is essentially the Echo. So I'm betting Krile will have the Echo also.

As for being a Lala, Krile in FFV was a child, while the other main characters were older. So I'm betting her being a Lalafell is just a stylistic choice.

EDIT: Also, I'm somewhat concerned that Krile is in her WHM outfit. I mean, I know it's kind of her signature look, buuuut.... what with Y'Shtola having a Doom counter over her head due to the "aether sight" thing, I'm afraid the Scions may be replacing a WHM soon.

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Originally Posted by Mykaelus

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Those are actually pretty good points, and I'd say her strong relations with Minfilia makes it more possible that she has the Echo.
Anyway, I believe she's a Lalafell is to poke fun over her japanese name, which is Kururu, which sounds like a Lalafell name already.

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Originally Posted by Mykaelus

EDIT: Also, I'm somewhat concerned that Krile is in her WHM outfit. I mean, I know it's kind of her signature look, buuuut.... what with Y'Shtola having a Doom counter over her head due to the "aether sight" thing, I'm afraid the Scions may be replacing a WHM soon.

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Well one of the quests is called the dying of the light....

Thank you all for your answers. I would have probably thought about watching the japanese trailer myself had I not been so tired yesterday -.-

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

Well one of the quests is called the dying of the light....

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Actually, it's 'Against the Dying of the Light'. For me, that doesn't nescessarily sounds like someone will die. I don't know, it could be related to the WoD, maybe? And that darkness grows stronger and endangers light or something?
I wouldn't interprete too much into it, anyways.

And about Shtola... she's pretty much XIV's mascot. You normally don't kill your mascot, right? :)
I, at least, don't expect her to die anytime soon, especially not since she just came back and all.

Okay, now that we are done:

1. I'm terribly sorry to have kept you all waiting since 2.1
2. Love all the banter between her and Alphinaud: Unless you can cover my mouth from way over there I am going to reveal all your embarrassing secrets. Deal with it.
3. Matoya is still used. Wohoooo
4. So she is not a Baldesion in this version.
5. She can use the Echo!!! Stand aside, Minfilia. We officially have no more need for you.

Okay interesting tidbit I saw when I spoke to Krile during the quest "In the Eye of the Beholder" warning spoilers, maybe....

she is actually adopted, to presumably a hyur "grandfather" (Galuf based on context cues). She states that her name is Krile Baldesian, and that he gave her the name. She off handedly remarks that "you dont think my parents gave me the name Krile Baldesian, do you?" Poking fun that she is a lala, without a lala-ish name.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Okay interesting tidbit I saw when I spoke to Krile during the quest "In the Eye of the Beholder" warning spoilers, maybe....

she is actually adopted, to presumably a hyur "grandfather" (Galuf based on context cues). She states that her name is Krile Baldesian, and that he gave her the name. She off handedly remarks that "you dont think my parents gave me the name Krile Baldesian, do you?" Poking fun that she is a lala, without a lala-ish name.

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Dang, I missed that part.

So we can cross out number 4 in this case. Sort of. So the old coot that set up shop on the Island of Val mentioned by Matoya Alphinaud's grandfather or Krile's?

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Okay interesting tidbit I saw when I spoke to Krile during the quest "In the Eye of the Beholder" warning spoilers, maybe....

she is actually adopted, to presumably a hyur "grandfather" (Galuf based on context cues). She states that her name is Krile Baldesian, and that he gave her the name. She off handedly remarks that "you dont think my parents gave me the name Krile Baldesian, do you?" Poking fun that she is a lala, without a lala-ish name.

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I'll bet 500 gil that

her real name is Kururu Kuru

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Dang, I missed that part.

So we can cross out number 4 in this case. Sort of. So the old coot that set up shop on the Island of Val mentioned by Matoya Alphinaud's grandfather or Krile's?

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The way I understood the conversation was it was Galuf, Krile's grandfather.

I thought it was pretty heavily tilted that way, but I don't remember it being certain-- the alternative doesn't make sense to me though.

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Originally Posted by Rocl

The way I understood the conversation was it was Galuf, Krile's grandfather.

I thought it was pretty heavily tilted that way, but I don't remember it being certain-- the alternative doesn't make sense to me though.

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Yeah I guess you are right. Still, we cant take implied stuff for granted or we will play into the hands of the Ascians.

Anyway I have a new favorite Scion. She is a Scion now right?

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Yeah I guess you are right. Still, we cant take implied stuff for granted or we will play into the hands of the Ascians.

Anyway I have a new favorite Scion. She is a Scion now right?

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I dont think she is a Scion yet, maybe she will become one ( I hope so). Now that I think about it, is Yugiri a Scion? She helped us alot in the 3.0 storyline, but I do not remember her becoming a Scion. Maybe Krile will be a ally like Yugiri?

Personaly I hope when the remaining Scions return and we reform the Scions, we formally make Krile, Yugiri and the loyal Crystal Braves members like Riol a Scion.