Wanderer's Minuet

Okay, my baby archer just got this and I'm not sure when/how best to use it. I've been searching for this info but I keep getting no where. There are tons of angry threads but I can't seem to find any on the correct why to use it. Well, truth be told, I get contradictory info. I've been looking at the bards I've partied with and most seem to have WM on all the time. Is that what I should be doing?

At 60 yes. Up to that point if AoE yes if not see how best you can use it. It's kinda pointless outside of AoE until you get the 2 skills for it - Empyrial Arrow and Iron Jaws. After you get those two though it has a ton of benefit.

Yeah having it on almost all the time is good to boost your damage and some moves you get later can only be used while the song is in effect. The only times you switch it off are when movement is necessary and you can't catch a break to stay rooted down.

When you first get it you won't be using it as extensively as you would in end game. Right now you should be using it during aoe pulls to get that extra damage in. I wouldn't even suggest using it outside AOES when you get your Empyreal arrow at 54. I would wait until 56 and get Iron Jaws to really start using it!

KK! Got it. Thanks ya'll's! =D I'll save it for at least lvl 56 then. My baby bard is only 53 so I have a ways to go. <3

well u could start training stance dance at 54 with EA... allthough you wont stance dance much in the endgame content, its fine to get used to it. Playing with MW up 99% of the time is a complete different way of playing BRDs imo... my BRDs life was like AAR yeah boing flip... > HW... bah MW will never use this crap... > Stance-what? ah okay... ill will give it a try... > getting used to stance dance... > noticing that there isnt any reason for "boing flip" or stance-dancing at all in 99% of the current endgame content xD

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As people mentioned, it's ideal that you keep WM up once you get the skills attached to it. Before getting those skills, you won't necessarily do more dps (and lose some more-on-less depending on bloodletter procs) unless you're AoEing. You can keep it on after level 54 with empyreal arrow, making sure you use it ot the fullest extent to benefit from it. It's also important that you manage to use all your oGCDs (blunt arrow, repelling shot right after a cast, and flame arrow) to make the most use out of WM, otherwise you're losing overall damage from not having auto attacks.

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Originally Posted by Neela

well u could start training stance dance at 54 with EA..

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Not yet 54 but I'm used to stance dancing. I mained a healer in ARR and still heal some in HW.

@ Alisi
Ideally, you want to use WM as much as posibble. Its a nice 30% dmg boost and enables a few abilitys you cannot use without it. Stancedance, well. There are so few moments in this game, where u really need to turn it off. Only because there is an aoe incoming doesnt mean you need to turn it off. You can walk between the global cooldown and get into position etc. You should morely focus on how to maximize the time u can spent in WM. So basically, to answer your question, yes. You should be on WM as much as you can.

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Originally Posted by Choko_TS

@ Alisi
Ideally, you want to use WM as much as posibble. Its a nice 30% dmg boost and enables a few abilitys you cannot use without it. Stancedance, well. There are so few moments in this game, where u really need to turn it off. Only because there is an aoe incoming doesnt mean you need to turn it off. You can walk between the global cooldown and get into position etc. You should morely focus on how to maximize the time u can spent in WM. So basically, to answer your question, yes. You should be on WM as much as you can.

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So much right on this post.

No point stance dancing on BRD since your have shorter Dot timers and random blood letter procs. The potency increase on your dots and Blood Letter VS the loss of AA damage in itself is a gain even before you get the rest of your skills.

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Originally Posted by Alisi

KK! Got it. Thanks ya'll's! =D I'll save it for at least lvl 56 then. My baby bard is only 53 so I have a ways to go. <3

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While what other people have said is true (that you can just use it for AoEs until you obtain Empyrial Arrow, otherwise it's probably a dps loss), I believe that you should start using it now to get an idea of how BRD feels with WM on. At the beginning it can be a little bit confusing, but once you get the hang of it I think you'll find that it's really satisfiyng to properly chain every skill while weaving in instant skills in that short second between the cast times.

I was wondering this same question, as I've had WM on nonstop since I hit 52. I felt it was good to get used to it and I ended up doing great damage with it on so I've kept it on 100%. In my opinion, getting used to standing still will prepare you more for 60 than just turning it on for aoe, but that's just how I feel about it.

WM is a minor, nigh-imperceptible, dps loss before you have Empyreal Arrow. You should without a doubt be keeping it on 100% of the time from 52 to 60. It drastically changes the playstyle of the class and it's much smarter to get used to that new style before you complicate it with new skills like EA and IJ. Same reason I definitely recommend DRG picks up Wheeling Thrust at 58, even though it's *technically* worthless until it allows you to unlock Geirskogul. The landscape at 60 is all that matters. You wanna practice it as much as possible before you get there, so the adjustment period isn't very long.