Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who likes the 24 man raids

It's totally true. All I hear is complaints mostly (maybe I should stop reading the forums).

I miss doing my CT weekly. Unfortunately I just don't have time to sit in queue for 4 hours waiting for a party (believe me I WOULD but, alas, real life) since most people aren't doing them anymore. I love the designs of the whole trilogy...the fights, the arenas, the music. It's all so great.

People complain about trolls/troll parties. So what? If you want to do the content then suck it up; there will always be terrible people. Half the alliance new and everyone wipes? Fine, sure. Let them know what to do. STILL wipes? Honestly... really it doesn't bother me. Wipes happen. Absolutely worse-case scenario: the alliance attempts Bone Dragon for two hours. I'm not going to die from that. And even when things DO go wrong, it's fine.

And still people say "oh it's too easy" or "why do my best?" Well...there are tons of reasons to do your best and give it your all. One, you could be the one who saves the run. Outperform everyone. Two, do your best and it goes more quickly. I feel like if more people tried instead of "I'll just press my main attack skill key until we finish" then more runs would go better. Don't like random people? Then find the other 23 people in PF and do it that way.

TL;DR
The Void Ark section of the new trailer got me SO PUMPED FOR IT even moreso than I thought I could be.

Cannot
WAIT

I love 24 man raids. So do my bf and room mate who I just asked ;_;

I expect Void Ark to be no different from how CT is, so yea, it's gonna feel like a chore after a few clears. Too much wasted potential. The generic trash - boss - trash - boss - trash - boss - boss is just not acceptable in a 24-man raid, especially when there isn't really anything interesting to do between the fights, just move on to the next fight. Most dungeons have more content.

I'd like them if they weren't faceroll easy.

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Originally Posted by Elazu

I'd like them if they weren't faceroll easy.

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If they weren't faceroll easy we'd never get them finished.

WoD was a good example of that. AFKers and wipes to simple mechanics everywhere.

I like them, but I don't like the people in there. The content isn't challenging, but people getting their egos in check and to stop fighting each other? That's the real difficulty.

Void Ark looks awesome, better than Labyrinth, Sycrus and World of Darkness IMO, more compelling plot right out the box too, seeing as it isn't Final Fantasy III: The Raid.

That said, I enjoyed Crystal Tower. What I didn't enjoy, and what I doubt I'll enjoy in Void Ark, is the people. They've always been the problem, though I do partly blame SE, for making everything so damned easy (and continuing to nerf everything), rather than giving us a gradual difficulty curve, that meant people who got to Crystal Tower could handle the mechanics, because they didn't get carried through all the prior content... The design philosophy in this game seems to be "Everyone should be able to challenge this piece of content", when I'd argue it should be "Everyone who got this far should be able to challenge this piece of content".

I'm actually pretty pumped for void ark too. I love the creepy alien vibe it has. I'm not super looking forward to running it every week and dealing with the tom-foolery of the general populace, so i prob won't. But I'm definately excited for that first time stepping into the unknown with new bosses, new music, and new environments.

I like the 24 man raids (well I am really meh about Labyrinth of the Ancients, but ST and WoD are cool) until people start to be rude and the like. If it's a nice and friendly group, I have a blast and look forward to it. Definitely looking forward to Void Ark at the moment.

I like it because for every person who wants to rush, there is one who just wants to enjoy it.

I love the 24 man raids. My FC is organizing a premade alliance to run Void Ark with a neighboring FC.

I like 24-person raids save for trolls and wannabe "professional" raiders who come on forums chirping about content being too easy. Both groups are near-useless when it comes to actually putting in effort to complete the content. 24 people who look to get things done and not mess around are what makes these raids fun.

I absolutely love the 24 man raid content. I find it to be some of the most fun I have ingame.


No seriously, I do. No sarcasm.

The only one of the previous three that I actually disliked was Syrcus Tower. I didn't enjoy any of the fights and I didn't like the reward structure. LotA is one of my favorite pieces of content from ARR, though, and I generally enjoyed WoD (though I hate the first boss).

I feel the same way OP

I MISS THE 24 MAN OMG.

I talk about it all the time. The fact that I miss WoD.

That shit was so much fun.

I was watching the trailer for void ark and got a little freaked out, but all the better!

Let's do this!

24 man raids are my Coil/Alexander. That's the stuff I look forward to the most. My favorite content in the game.

I looooooooove 24-man raids. So much fun. Yeah they are easy but I have a ton of fun laughing at people doing silly stuff.

I do sort of hope that Void Ark is a tad more challenging than the CT raid series but we'll see.

I like the 24 man raids! ........when I don't want to punch 90% of the alliance. But really, I do enjoy them. I just can't be bothered to wait several hours in a queue for the older CT raids. :/ I would <3 for them to become relevant - and subsequently runnable - again.
I wonder how rusty I've become at WoD and ST (have to say, LoTA is my least fave)...

I like them. I kind of wish they would make CT relevant again.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

It's totally true. All I hear is complaints mostly (maybe I should stop reading the forums).

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I really enjoy them... however I don't like getting stuck with randoms.

I still remember that opening cutscene in LOTA when all 24 walked into the instance.

I like the 24-man raids. I just dislike getting stuck with groups of people who can't perform even the most basic of mechanics and refuse to follow simple instructions.

I love doing it for the first time, but any time after it is a chore.

One that I do for glamours sake >.<

Hey, I like 24-man raids too (thus, I'm looking forward to try out Void Ark)!

What I dislike, however, are ignorant, stubborn, blind, simple-minded players that basically ruin the experience for everyone else (by not being team-players).

I like the 24 man raids, to me they're the only piece of content that legitimately feel like raids. You break into a large scale area, fight monsters the size of gods with a huge amount of people, there's trash to progress through, incredible music, it really captures that old WoW raid feel that I love, prefer it to Alexander and Coil myself.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

I like the 24 man raids, to me they're the only piece of content that legitimately feel like raids. You break into a large scale area, fight monsters the size of gods with a huge amount of people, there's trash to progress through, incredible music, it really captures that old WoW raid feel that I love, prefer it to Alexander and Coil myself.

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I love your sig. Makes me chuckle every time. That and Riceisnice's bug on the screen.

Surprisingly the queue on "famfrit datacenter" whichever it is is always pretty quick for all 3 CT instances. In addition to the neat gear I like them because they have some pretty varied mechanics (though half the time they get skipped due to high dps) and you can kinda half pay attention lol.

I was listening to my friends recollecting the old 24raid memories and laughing about them, organising already so we can do them all together.. I honestly hated most of them.

First rule to enter CT: leave your brain out.
No matter how many times, how many months later, still the towers were filled by not-able-to-press-123 players.

Second rule to enter CT: be rude and childish. whole parties but especially tanks instead of being cooperative were competitive in the worst way and that usually led to wipes and whatnot shouted over alliance chat.

Third rule to enter CT: the original sin. The more time passed from the reset the worst people you'd find and always, on sunday, there was that one friend that didn't/couldn't drop and so what we used to call "mad tower" had to begun. The horror.

LOL I'm so happy it'll drop a weekly token so I hope I can do it once and never again till reset

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Originally Posted by enthauptet

Surprisingly the queue on famfrit is always pretty quick for all 3 CT instances. In addition to the neat gear I like them because they have some pretty varied mechanics (though half the time they get skipped due to high dps) and you can kinda half pay attention lol.

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When will people realize that queues are data center based and not server based?

I'd like them more if I didn't have to roll for the minion against 23 other people. The amount of times I've rolled less than 30 is absurd.

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Originally Posted by Zephera

I'd like them more if I didn't have to roll for the minion against 23 other people. The amount of times I've rolled less than 30 is absurd.

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I rolled a 1 the only time I've had the syrcus tower one drop. That was pretty sad.

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Originally Posted by Phireblast

When will people realize that queues are data center based and not server based?

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Yeah whatever datacenter I'm in.

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Originally Posted by enthauptet

I rolled a 1 the only time I've had the syrcus tower one drop. That was pretty sad.

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You think that's bad, I just did WoD twice with the minion dropping both times and unfortunately rolled a 1 both times.

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Originally Posted by RocheKat

I really enjoy them... however I don't like getting stuck with randoms.

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Then get together an alliance and do it that way.
I've done that a couple times, it can be a blast (depending on what you're doing...both runs were fun silly runs).

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Originally Posted by Zephera

You think that's bad, I just did WoD twice with the minion dropping both times and unfortunately rolled a 1 both times.

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Ouch, the fact that it is a group roll is pretty unfortunate with the low drop rate. With the game having actual RNG (not player weighted) it is really rough even with 8 players to get stuff sometimes.

I like all content that I'm able to do. Currently, I cannot do:

- Alexander Savage (all turns)
- Final Coil of Bahamut: Turn 4 (T13)

With the exception of PvP, I queue for as much stuff as I can. Unfortunately, I been in need of Labyrinth of the Ancients for four weeks now. On my off day, last I checked, my queue time lapsed was 171 minutes with an average wait time of over 30 minutes.

eh I don't like them, wish WoD was 4 player so I could recreate the FFIII final fight with the four heroes of light. Some of those huge fights would feel a little more heroic without an army of players.

I understand why they are needed though, it appeals to those who like the huge raid feel. I just like my smaller epic battles.