No New Primal

Am I getting this right? No new primal in 3.1? I feel like the primals are the best overall content that everyone can actually enjoy, that's too bad.

And no, Knights of the round doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by Taei

And no, Knights of the round doesn't count.

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Speak for yourself. I've been eagerly awaiting this one.

I'm actually getting tired of primals. We can easily fight something else.

im not part of your "everyone" sorry

I think at this point they're kinda done with the Primals being the main focus... Warrior's of Darkness, however...

Yeah, not sure about this 'everyone' given how much louder people had been asking for an Extreme Knights of the Round battle since people started beating Chapter 1 of Heavensward. I happen to be in that crowd, the fight was fun but was too much on par with the Gilgamesh fights. You'd be hard pressed to actually lose.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Speak for yourself. I've been eagerly awaiting this one.

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There's nothing wrong with this but all this means is we have even less challanging content in the game now, this is a bad sign and shows exactly where the game is headed, feel free to celebrate less content.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

There's nothing wrong with this but all this means is we have even less challanging content in the game now, this is a bad sign and shows exactly where the game is headed, feel free to celebrate less content.

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I don't see how adding an Extreme Primal battle that's on par with A1S is "less challenging content" but okay!

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I don't see how adding an Extreme Primal battle that's on par with A1S is "less challenging content" but okay!

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Do you honestly believe that, also them adding in a piece of content that is reusing an existing fight is poor show, people were asking for MOAR challanging content, not less, you might want to get that through your head, take a read on http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blo...438.1382718035

That blog is more accurate representation of the direction of the game, and feel free to celebrate that.

Add up the amount of challanging content we now have right now and thats being added in and compare that to the easy mode crap thats in right now and coming, some research will do you wonders.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

There's nothing wrong with this but all this means is we have even less challanging content in the game now, this is a bad sign and shows exactly where the game is headed, feel free to celebrate less content.

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That's your speculation. We don't even know what else 3.1 will offer. We could get something like primals without it being primals. To be frank, unless it's an EX version, primals were never meant to be that difficult.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

That's your speculation. We don't even know what else 3.1 will offer. We could get something like primals without it being primals. To be frank, unless it's an EX version, primals were never meant to be that difficult.

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Speculation?, they have already done a live letter going over the features of 3.1 not to mention a blog post about dungeon difficulty in a nut shell, any major content piece has always been announced prior to a patch release and they have already mentioned first part of November release which is coming very soon, name a live letter prior to a patch release which never mentioned major content addition.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Do you honestly believe that, also them adding in a piece of content that is reusing an existing fight is poor show, people were asking for MOAR challanging content, not less, you might want to get that through your head, take a read on http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blo...438.1382718035

That blog is more accurate representation of the direction of the game, and feel free to celebrate that.

Add up the amount of challanging content we now have right now and thats being added in and compare that to the easy mode crap thats in right now and coming, some research will do you wonders.

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That blog is talking about dungeon content. Dungeons are separate from raids and trials and have always been fairly easy, with few exceptions. Those exceptions end up being nerfed because the game is mostly aimed at the casual player and always has been.

You're acting like Extreme primals are a new thing when in fact the only one we have without one is Odin. You're also completely ignoring the fact that people have been clamoring for an Extreme mode of this fight since they first saw it in the HW storyline.

If you think the current content is too easy, might I suggest you go give Savage Alexander a try?

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Originally Posted by raelgun

There's nothing wrong with this but all this means is we have even less challanging content in the game now, this is a bad sign and shows exactly where the game is headed, feel free to celebrate less content.

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A trial don't have to be a primal fight again. There are not enough beastmen for this.
SE can also bring some trials within the MSQ, like against the Warrior of Darkness.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

You're acting like Extreme primals are a new thing when in fact the only one we have without one is Odin. You're also completely ignoring the fact that people have been clamoring for an Extreme mode of this fight since they first saw it in the HW storyline.

If you think the current content is too easy, might I suggest you go give Savage Alexander a try?

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I have said nothing ill of that fight if you actually read my posts which seem like you don't know how to read, they have not announced more challenging content which is also what people are asking for, more new content and it needs to be less mindless, also nice try on that, a lot of us would like more then just 1 small area of content that actually has a challenge, that is bad game design and SE are moving forward with this design.

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Originally Posted by Felis

A trial don't have to be a primal fight again. There are not enough beastmen for this.
SE can also bring some trials within the MSQ, like against the Warrior of Darkness.

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Take a read at what I have mentioned, name a live letter where SE have not announced a major content addition on a coming patch, name 1, like seriously someone, anyone.

It does not need to be a Primal, can be anything on this level for at least EX fights, but SE are doing quite a big job on advertising island exploration and away from group organised content quite clearly.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

I have said nothing ill of that fight if you actually read my posts which seem like you don't know how to read, they have not announced more content which is also what people are asking for, more new content and it needs to be less mindless, also nice try on that, a lot of us would like more then just 1 small area of content that actually has a challenge, that is bad game design and SE are moving forward with this design.

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"We need more challenging content in this game. Everything's too easy."

"Have you tried out the challenging content we already have?"

"Ew, no. I want different challenging content."

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Originally Posted by raelgun

It does not need to be a Primal, can be anything on this level for at least EX fights, but SE are doing quite a big job on advertising island exploration and away from group organised content quite clearly.

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People have also been clamoring for more open world style content for ages now though! I don't see how them adding something completely new is "less content". Ultimately, it's meant to be group content, and some of the NM's are supposed to be pretty difficult.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

"We need more challenging content in this game. Everything's too easy."

"Have you tried out the challenging content we already have?"

"Ew, no. I want different challenging content."

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So what you are telling me is, you are unable to give a reason to why SE are unable to provide more challenging type of content? If you want to make a argument, at least give one because you are doing a terrible job doing so

I also asked compare the amount of content that is challenging and easy and what amounts of those we are getting. If you are able to read English on these forums, at least answer that.

Yoshi has already said the easiest 'NM' is on par with A rank hunts, and not to mention exploration islands can have many people at a time, you do the maths here.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

So what you are telling me is, you are unable to give a reason to why SE are unable to provide more challenging type of content? If you want to make a argument, at least give one because you are doing a terrible job doing so

I also asked compare the amount of content that is challenging and easy and what amounts of those we are getting. If you are able to read English on these forums, at least answer that.

Yoshi has already said the easiest 'NM' is on par with A rank hunts, and not to mention exploration islands can have many people at a time, you do the maths here.

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I just think it's incredibly funny that you're asking for more "challenging content" when you don't even do what we already have.

I also find your belligerence amusing. "I don't really have a point so I'll be rude to make it look like I do."

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Take a read at what I have mentioned, name a live letter where SE have not announced a major content addition on a coming patch, name 1, like seriously someone, anyone.

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If i remember it right, the Chrysalis trial was also not extra announced (only a 3 sec long piece from the CS in the 2.5 trailer under "Main Scenario").
In the 3.1 trailer we see the Warrior of Darkness swinging his axe. it can be just a normal CS or a piece of a trial opening CS. We will see in 3.1

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

I just think it's incredibly funny that you're asking for more "challenging content" when you don't even do what we already have.

I also find your belligerence amusing. "I don't really have a point so I'll be rude to make it look like I do."

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It is not just me asking for more challenging content, plenty of people are really and my thoughts on savage mode is simply the design process that went in to that, I actually come from hardcore raiding and pretty happy with it, but the current model implemented is actually rubbish.

Also you have yet to answer the question, also please check on your own posts before you call someone rude.

I am actually looking forward to this patch lots of new things. Yay.

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Originally Posted by Felis

If i remember it right, the Chrysalis trial was also not extra announced (only a 3 sec long piece from the CS in the 2.5 trailer under "Main Scenario").

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They mentioned something for a trial for that but that was a main story instance however.

It's only natural to want to promote your big draw, and Exploration has been the big reason for working on company airships this whole time. And it's not like they didn't show off the new dungeons and raid. I think it's expecting the update to be as big as Heavensward with all these disappointments going around.

The content we're getting that isn't a primal is far more interesting and new, imo.

but Knights of the Round is sort of a primal "summon" other games tho "Final Fantasy VII" long scean to use it.

I`m fine with no new Primal fight.
We currently don`t even have a beatmen tribe or faction that could summon a new Primal.

Notice how short the MSQ section was in the trailer? I remember it being much longer in almost all other patch trailers. And if there's a trial that's heavily connected to the MSQ...they're probably keeping it secret for now.

Nidhogg EX anyone?

EDIT: and if the fan theories of Ixion are true...major spoiler and something that they want to hit right in the feels. Showing it off would kill that effect

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Originally Posted by Cheraa

I`m fine with no new Primal fight.
We currently don`t even have a beatmen tribe or faction that could summon a new Primal.

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We do actually. Ishgardian zealots could possibly summon Halone.

I think that we are getting a MQ trial...they just don't want to spoil it, the MQ is after all one of the most juicy things about the game :3

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Originally Posted by raelgun

There's nothing wrong with this but all this means is we have even less challanging content in the game now, this is a bad sign and shows exactly where the game is headed, feel free to celebrate less content.

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That's an assumption, honestly if anyone paid attention to the live letter today it looks like a good chunk of content went into island exploration, easy mode, normal mode, hard mode, 8/16/24 parties, 90 min limit of being inside, not just go from point a to point b but complete objectives you can, explore, learn, discover and see which path best works for you. That's a lot of content and I think until we actually see it in action you can't assume it's "less challenging" content because we don't know how tough the bosses might be.

Did you even read the story? The Knights of the Round are primals.

KotR are a Primal, Extreme nonetheless. Another primal will join maybe in the next patch, like 3.2, I think there is enough content already to get people busy for now.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

So what you are telling me is, you are unable to give a reason to why SE are unable to provide more challenging type of content?

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I've seen you on another thread using the same 'you don't have a reason for Square Enix' argument, what are you even talking about?

The playerbase cry because they don't have any challenging content, they release Alexander Savage, the playerbase cry because the content is too hard, they release more content, the playerbase cry because it wasn't exactly the type of content they wanted.

It's getting pretty boring now. I actually feel sorry for Square, they don't know whether they're coming or going.

Chances are it would be too spoilerific to actually show the new story trial.

I don't see a need to stuff a primal into the game with EVERY patch cycle. getting the KotR EX fight is awesome, people, not "everyone" have been wanting that since 3.0 launched. I'd say hold off on a new primal til 3.2 or even 3.3, I'd rather they focused on other content for us "all" to enjoy

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Originally Posted by Ilitsa

I don't see a need to stuff a primal into the game with EVERY patch cycle. getting the KotR EX fight is awesome, people, not "everyone" have been wanting that since 3.0 launched. I'd say hold off on a new primal til 3.2 or even 3.3, I'd rather they focused on other content for us "all" to enjoy

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Story trial doesn't have to be a primal.
2.5 didn't have a story primal... It had Chrysalis.
We know that what's called the Warring Triad is a threat... They're not primals... But we'll likely fight them soon enough.
Question I think is more if there is a non-primal story trial, will there be an extreme version of the trial as well, or is the minstrel version of SR enough for EX level content in 3.1?

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

"We need more challenging content in this game. Everything's too easy."

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Doing EX Primals and Coils through duty finder wasn't challenging enough?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...c45e7d9ee5.jpg

EX version that same with A1S? I can't even clear the Oppresor until now :( *cries*

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Originally Posted by Taei

And no, Knights of the round doesn't count.

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Oh yeah? Why?