Day and Night Mobs

Wouldn't be a nice addition to have day only spawning mobs and night only spawning mobs? Having ghost type and undead spawning in certain locations only at night and ladybugs or some mobs spawning just during the day. Can also expand it and make mobs spawn only at dawn and things like that. I think it would give another layer of immersion and live to the world.

While a completely unrelated game, I remember playing The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time back when it first came out on N64, and one of the most amazing memories I had was when I first discovered Hyrule Field. I remember watching the sun set for the first time and witnessing the skeletons crawl out from underground as dusk fell over Hyrule.

But I digress. FFXIV definitely is capable of it, we already see hunt mobs who have the Eorzean phases of the moon serving as their spawn flag among other subtleties in enemy triggers (such as blind enemies with sound based agro). I think it would be a great addition to perhaps a new area design, as I know a lot of people want a more interesting and perhaps more threatening overworld zone for this game. Maybe even the new airship areas will have them (one can hope right? :) ) or new zones in future updates could be tuned to include them.

Anything to break the usual monotony of the Eorzean map we have currently would be very welcome indeed.

Exatly, anything that give more live to the world. Can even add weather mobs too. During rain more water spirits spawn, little things like that.

It wouldn't be super difficult to do in FF14. The quest mechanics have several spawning features that could be timed on ET cycles like gathering nodes. Elusive dailies in truth but still entertaining. They could do this with guild hests too. Allowing for mini instances that are only available in windows. For true over world spawns, we have that to a degree with Fates and Hunt bosses.

They did this in FFXI and it was neat.

I'd be nice, just don't make us have to kill day/night specific mobs for Hunt/Quest/etc.

I would enjoy some time-based features.

It reminds me of Kithicor Forest from Everquest, where it was nice and relatively safe during the day, but much harder and stronger undead would come out at night. If you were of a lower level, you'd have to sit and wait for daybreak in order to cross or risk your life traveling it at night. Ahh memories. :)

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Originally Posted by Delta041

I'd be nice, just don't make us have to kill day/night specific mobs for Hunt/Quest/etc.

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We already have some hunt mark that have that behavior. As for quest a little here and there wont be bad i think.

Oh no, the moon is coming up. Careful, the Wights and Bogeys are coming out!

Yeah, but it's just more trash with more flavors of trash for me to ignore as I do my dailies.

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Yeah, but it's just more trash with more flavors of trash for me to ignore as I do my dailies.

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The flavour of the world usually doesn't directly affect any specific individual during his daily routine.
That's just part of living within the world. Letting it be around you.

There are a few mechanics from FFXI I'd like to see make a return, like blood aggro and undead spawns at night. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I rather liked it when there were different ways to aggro mobs rather than just line of sight. Makes the world much more diverse and interesting, and introduces some fun mechanics to different areas.

FFXIV has a rather arcade feel to combat at the moment, so it'd be nice to introduce some real threats in the world as opposed to throwaway trash mobs.

I'd totally kill to have day and night mobs. I really love the world of FFXIV, and having some features to make it feel more alive would be so so cool!

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

There are a few mechanics from FFXI I'd like to see make a return, like blood aggro and undead spawns at night. Maybe I'm the odd one out, but I rather liked it when there were different ways to aggro mobs rather than just line of sight. Makes the world much more diverse and interesting, and introduces some fun mechanics to different areas.

FFXIV has a rather arcade feel to combat at the moment, so it'd be nice to introduce some real threats in the world as opposed to throwaway trash mobs.

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Sound, Sight, and True aggro still exist within XIV.
But most people when starting fail to realize this as everything is as equally dangerous (as in, 'not very') or quickly outlevel them where they won't aggro you at all ever again.

This and more passive non targetable wildlife. Not all creatures are harmful bloodthirsty mobs.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

This and more passive non targetable wildlife. Not all creatures are harmful bloodthirsty mobs.

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You mean there's deer and jackals out there that DON'T tear me to shreds just for walking by!?

I would love some day/night mobs; just for flavor if nothing else. I always enjoyed it in XI and LoZ:OoT. As long as they're not required for anything major, I'd be all for it. Though waiting 1hour for a night mob is no where near as bad as waiting 4+ hours for a relic fate.

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Originally Posted by Riardon

This and more passive non targetable wildlife. Not all creatures are harmful bloodthirsty mobs.

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This, too! The birds are nice, but there should be some bugs/squirrels/fish, etc.

The chupacabra comes out at night to eat wandering Lalafells...

I support this. Great idea!

You mean like castlevania-

Night monsters
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wB6buRaqsI...+2+-+Night.png

Day monsters
http://coreofthepixel.com/wp-content...urse-Night.jpg

DQ VII (day/night mobs) and FFXII (weather specific mobs, though only the Entites IIRC) have this, so I can see this happening, butwhat abput the time winder, a night in Eorzea is relatively far shorter than one on Earth (or even one in DQ VIII)

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Originally Posted by Azper

It reminds me of Kithicor Forest from Everquest, where it was nice and relatively safe during the day, but much harder and stronger undead would come out at night. If you were of a lower level, you'd have to sit and wait for daybreak in order to cross or risk your life traveling it at night. Ahh memories. :)

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Super true /nostalgia

Yeah I think that every old MMO had some kind of these mobs and they were fine (atleast in my opinion) unless you had to do 10 quests that made you wait untill night for them.
So I wouldn't mind something like that added if it was done nice and the mobs would fit in the location and game lore.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

You mean like castlevania-

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I was totally going to post that picture lol

I like this idea a lot, as long as it's done in a way that doesn't make certain quests, etc. a pain to complete.

Dark Age of Camelot did that, it was a great system, doing the night time sudden mobs would appear at some locations and were stronger then normal yellow mobs. WoW did that too alittle in dusk wood doing vanilla of the opening of the game but some how they removed it due to players dying or something.

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Originally Posted by Delta041

I'd be nice, just don't make us have to kill day/night specific mobs for Hunt/Quest/etc.

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This.

I already hate the idea of timed nodes.

I think it would be a waste to implement such a feature and not have a single quest or two involving getting a timed mob.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Sound, Sight, and True aggro still exist within XIV. But most people when starting fail to realize this as everything is as equally dangerous (as in, 'not very') or quickly outlevel them where they won't aggro you at all ever again.

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Can you even name one example of magic aggro? Can you name one example of blood aggro? How about sound aggro? Sneak behind 100% of mobs and they won't see you. As for true aggro, nope. You can use stealth on rogue/ninja and DoL to avoid 100% of enemies.

So, yeah... they don't really have a presence here.

hogs always notice you, drakes are blind and you can move around them as long as you dont run (same with some others), cobolds have sight aggro etc.

Something like that or I was also thinking it would be cool to see some sort of actual behavior from roaming creatures. Like they will go to a place and sleep during the night, maybe some will stay awake and keep watch over the others and if you attack them during this time, they will have higher attack/hp or whatever. little details that show life. instead they just plod back and forth between their established points, never deviate, never sleep, never move any differently.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

Day monsters
http://coreofthepixel.com/wp-content...urse-Night.jpg

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

hogs always notice you, drakes are blind and you can move around them as long as you dont run (same with some others), cobolds have sight aggro etc.

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Decided to test this theory. Used Disciple of the Land, walked in front of the hogs in South Shroud. No aggro. Used Ninja and stealth, walked in front of the same hogs. No aggro. Not exactly true sight so far. As for the drakes, I set my movement speed to walking and strolled past a drake. Got aggressive when it looked at me. I'd love to be wrong on these points, but unless we're talking about very specific examples of these mob types, I've never encountered the same situation that you apparently have.

Are there specific exceptional enemies that have these aggro types?

Update: Okay, I found at least one good example of sound aggressive monsters. Jellyfish, such as Sea Wasps will aggro you even with their backs turned. I suspect the same may be true of some other waterkin enemies.

I think this is a great idea, would love to see it implemented.

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Originally Posted by Delta041

I'd be nice, just don't make us have to kill day/night specific mobs for Hunt/Quest/etc.

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This.

What this game REALLY doesn't need is more time/weather dependent content. When I log in I want to actually play the game, not waste my limited time waiting until I can do content.

day/night time mobs would be cool indeed.

I have always wanted a couple zones to have seasons as well, spring, summer, autumn, and winter with not only complete environmental changes but mob changes as well. Dont think that will happen though, but it would be nice.

We don't really spend much time fighting mobs anyway, so I'm not sure if most people would notice the change. 3.0 monster drop rates are so horribly low, while HP pools on mobs are so large, that I did almost all of my crafting material farming by sending out retainers on ventures. And while daily hunts send us out to kill certain enemies, maybe only 20% of the enemies in 3.0 show up as possible targets.

So while the idea is fun, they need to work harder not to trivialize open area mobs in general.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

Update: Okay, I found at least one good example of sound aggressive monsters. Jellyfish, such as Sea Wasps will aggro you even with their backs turned. I suspect the same may be true of some other waterkin enemies.

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the dullahans in north shroud only react to sounds for example

FFXIV 1.0 had this feature. In certain locations at night skeletons would spawn instead of the mobs that were normally there. Was removed for ARR for some reason.

I would love this, personally, but it's related to something else I've noticed while playing - I think the day/night cycle changes too fast. It doesn't feel like night long enough and suddenly it's day again. Might be even more pronounced when there are day- or night-specific mobs, but I wish they would implement it anyway. The world would feel a little more reactive and surprising.