Nothing special about housing.

I mean seriously, you don't even need to waste your money on it.

Dying chocobo and leveling it up in stable.
Gardening.
workshop though really who needs it when you can do airship adventures without a house.

All the rest is nothing great, unless you like playing ken and barbie and pretending to be a interior decorator.

I think its a waste of memory on the game, they could of setup a stable for everyone and gave us the option for private quarters and garden and if we got married just invite people into our INN.

Other than that I don't see how they will help everyone who doesn't have a house, I really wouldn't want to spend that much money on something for 3 things.

I hope in the future they do give others a option for stables and ability to dye or level up chocobo I mean the leader could lock all that from you and I don't think its right, rather have my own freedom to do that for myself than others giving me permission.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I really wouldn't want to spend that much money on something for 3 things..

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Then dont...

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

Then dont...

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I won't didn't I say that? You telling me that again isn't doing anything to me.

You don't like housing, but other people might

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I won't didn't I say that? You telling me that again isn't doing anything to me.

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But what you are essentially saying is "I don't find this fun so I don't think they should focus on it".

I mean, I don't find PVP fun but do I think they should drop it entirely? No.

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

I mean seriously, you don't even need to waste your money on it.

Dying chocobo and leveling it up in stable.
Gardening.
workshop though really who needs it when you can do airship adventures without a house.

All the rest is nothing great, unless you like playing ken and barbie and pretending to be a interior decorator.

I think its a waste of memory on the game, they could of setup a stable for everyone and gave us the option for private quarters and garden and if we got married just invite people into our INN.

Other than that I don't see how they will help everyone who doesn't have a house, I really wouldn't want to spend that much money on something for 3 things.

I hope in the future they do give others a option for stables and ability to dye or level up chocobo I mean the leader could lock all that from you and I don't think its right, rather have my own freedom to do that for myself than others giving me permission.

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You said that there's nothing special about housing, bout the bolded reply shows you wanting features that are....exclusive to housing.

SE please make stables outside of housing, don't make anymore housing units.

Use that extra memory for something other than a house, give people some options outside of housing that get left out give them something to look forward to.

Its a persons choice to spend that much Gil on something to pretend its flashy they have something nice, if they come on here to complain about they spent that much gil on something they were going to give out let them, it was their choice.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

You said that there's nothing special about housing, bout the bolded reply shows you wanting features that are....exclusive to housing.

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Wrong, I said those 3 things for a reason, it still doesn't make the rest of the house special. Its just a doll you buy it for your kid they dress it up and only 1 cool function but until the battery dies that function isn't that great.

So when you max out your chocobo and color it whats left? Gardening I make more gil mining than waiting for a plant to pop out.

Then you have workshop but SE already stated we can adventure outside of housing.

So, why not make stable outside, I couldn't care less about gardening, also once I max on stable there would be no use for it to begin with.

which in turn makes the house useless.

Agree or disagree everyone has a right to an opinion but I think housing is meant to make people money by selling furnishing that's about it.

What it sounds like is your FC leader won't let you use the stable to color your chocobo...

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What it sounds like is your FC leader won't let you use the stable to color your chocobo...

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I do want to color but I don't want to join a FC, I like to do things myself as do a lot of others who decide they don't want to be in a FC with other people.

When the adventures I have a friends FC that I can join for a bit just to try it out, though I still play solo and have fun without the spamming in LS's or FC's also I made my own but only have 3 people in to prevent getting spammed invites.

The only thing I do want though is your right to stable chocobo level it up and dye it then be done with it, though SE could make a stable outside of housing that would be great if not then I'll just suffer as will others who don't want to do that.

If another game comes my way with better options I will probably say my good byes move on but wouldn't come on forums to say I quit lol

I think you completely missed the point about player housing. It's the same point that practically all games that sport such a feature have in making it. It's the same reason why most players go out of their way to get it. Let's just say practical use isn't always why people do things. I bet you wonder why people play games like Animal Crossing, or more specifically, the spinoff game that was just released about being a home maker.

Edit: Actually, you do know why. You just don't understand it.

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All the rest is nothing great, unless you like playing ken and barbie and pretending to be a interior decorator.

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Do you care at all about how your character looks? Gear, physique, race, etc. If you answer yes to anything visual, guess what... you're playing ken and barbie.

The problem is you not wanting to join an fc. Not with housing.

They did it in FFXI without housing for a group it was done pretty well and stuff outside which treated everyone as equals not cut others out of the game because you don't possess curtain things.

Tell me they aren't doing that here? Cause I see it a lot.

It started when people started to say they have nothing to show for their hard work.

Anyways that's pretty much me venting for now.

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They did it in FFXI without housing for a group it was done pretty well and stuff outside which treated everyone as equals not cut others out of the game because you don't possess curtain things.

Tell me they aren't doing that here? Cause I see it a lot.

It started when people started to say they have nothing to show for their hard work.

Anyways that's pretty much me venting for now.

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You're right about there being some benefits over others for being accepting of social circles. That's... life? Dunno what to tell you on that. When you put arbitrary restrictions upon yourself that hinder your wants or accessibility, there's no one to blame but yourself. Someone not having access to FC related benefits because they want to be the lone wolf is no different than someone who wants to be that lone wolf and still clear all content in the game without others. Just not gonna happen legitimately.

I wouldn't really call it a waste of money.


I made a fortune selling Thavnarian Onions, Glazenuts, and Chocobo Feed from 2.x Gardening. Made even more selling Grade IV Materia, Dusk Leather, Iron Giant Cores, and Airship materials from Airship ventures in 3.0 (66 Gathering IV Materia in a single airship trip.) Not to mention buying and selling plots themselves was extremely profitable. Buying Mediums for 16mil selling for 30mil etc.


Monetary value aside it's nice having a market board, summoning bell, FC chest, mog mail, Grade 6 Dark Matter, low level crafting mats, and an NPC to sell stuff at within 20 meters of your personal teleport. There's a lot of convenience that shouldn't be taken for granted. Getting to an Uldahn market board is kind of a chore. Those who live in The Goblet have that market board in their front yard. And sure playing Barbie and Ken may not be for everyone but your opinion of role playing doesn't make the system invalid.


Housing is a great avenue for people with creativity and great imaginations to have fun in. A private, customizable, location on the server where you can hang out in with buddies is far more valuable than minions, mounts, and raid gear in my opinion. A real complaint would be how poorly they managed Housing at it's release. This topic sounds more like a bitter complaint towards lack of housing availability.

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This topic sounds more like a bitter complaint towards lack of housing availability.

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To me the OP sort of came off as, "I can't have a house, so I'm going to make fun of people who have one."

Players don't just use housing for the literal features. Roleplayers use houses for obvious reasons. FC's like to have places to get together. Some people enjoy furnishing the house. In my old FC I had a member who spent weeks crafting and furnishing our house and he loved every minute of it, so much that he bought his own house. Others purely like the statement of owning a house. I think your post is very self opinionated as I know a lot of people who love housing and not just for the reasons you stated.

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....I mean the leader could lock all that from you and I don't think its right, rather have my own freedom to do that for myself than others giving me permission.

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That's why you need a personal house ^^;

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

pick on people

Instead of giving a solution its attack the person

negative comments

I would call some of your guys/gals opinions but a lot of you are attacking. grow up its a video game.

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unless you like playing ken and barbie and pretending to be a interior decorator.

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When you make fun of people, expect some people to get upset.

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If you decide to make another thread, I suggest wording it in a less aggressive way. :) You'll probably get less negative responses.

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I wouldn't really call it a waste of money.
Housing is a great avenue for people with creativity and great imaginations to have fun in. A private, customizable, location on the server where you can hang out in with buddies is far more valuable than minions, mounts, and raid gear in my opinion. A real complaint would be how poorly they managed Housing at it's release. This topic sounds more like a bitter complaint towards lack of housing availability.

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Tend to agree with most of this except it allowing creativity and imagination because currently the design allows for none of that. Its mindless and doesnt require nor inspire player creativity or imagination. The possible lolcombos with the furniture are embarrassing and extremely limiting. se rates 1/10 on creativity and player interaction.

But i agree gardening perk can have purpose for making gil and the other perks that are attached to it are ok (just not the actually "building" of.....anything.)

OP try to purchase a private home if availability is ever there again, if you prefer not to join a fc thats pretty much your last option for the time being.

I know FCs who've collectively spend hundreds of hours getting furniture and other housing items for their house, FCs who have sunk literally their entire company budget into making their house look cool. I myself think it's pretty cool and am looking forward to my own cabin in Ishgard when that time comes.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but you'll find that thousands of players disagree with you.

Off topic: just got a new tablet and trying ff14 forums out.

Ok, on topic::

To the op

People are "attacking" you because you wrote a judgemental statement thread, not giving your opinion. You're very rude in both your op and replies. I honestly question, if you're a gamer, and why do you play mmo with that mentality.

Fc and personal housing is fun, its a lil personal hang out for you and friends. The fact you said playing ken and barbie is pretty insulting. I enjoy playing "the sims" and enjoy decorating my own space, I also went to a tech high school and one of two shops I took had interior decorating as part of it and it's something I enjoy.

Pardon the comment, but people would be nicer if you posted you're opinon like an adult, and not as a butthurt man-baby. I'm sorry I don't sugar coat shit.

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I mean seriously, you don't even need to waste your money on it.

Dying chocobo and leveling it up in stable.
Gardening.
workshop though really who needs it when you can do airship adventures without a house.

All the rest is nothing great, unless you like playing ken and barbie and pretending to be a interior decorator.

I think its a waste of memory on the game, they could of setup a stable for everyone and gave us the option for private quarters and garden and if we got married just invite people into our INN.

Other than that I don't see how they will help everyone who doesn't have a house, I really wouldn't want to spend that much money on something for 3 things.

I hope in the future they do give others a option for stables and ability to dye or level up chocobo I mean the leader could lock all that from you and I don't think its right, rather have my own freedom to do that for myself than others giving me permission.

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Is there really anything special in this game that hasn't come from 1.0? Everything in this game just feels inconsequential and fleeting.

> Chocobo raising and feather dying
> Convenience in the cheapest teleport point available with repair NPCs, minor vendors, and the auction board literal steps away
> Gardening for exclusive materials and minions
> Airship exploration for access to exclusive materials for crafting and glamours
> No doubt advantages in Airship exploration over Ishgardian ships
> Being able to dress as ghosts and haunt your neighbors

I think there's plenty special about housing.

Having your own private corner of the server to idle and craft is tops. That's the real reason you buy it.

Also animal crossing style decorating is always fun.

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Because you just don't get that some people play differently than you all I don't care about housing I care about the stable part yes, how am I to level my chocobo and no I will not join another FC it should be my choice other players should have a choice also not to be told they cant.

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You don't need a stable to level your chocobo you can feed it the onions in the field then you know. Level it in the field. And if you want dye your chocobo? Is that not the Ken and Barbie thing you wer complaining about?

I for one hate crafting and gathering and think they should put more work in battle related stuff but id never say remove it.

What else am i going to spend my millions of gil on? =)

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I'm assuming you mean a newer version of Animal Crossing 'cause I got Animal Crossing: Wild World when the original DS was new, and decorating in that game was annoying.

"You cannot place this hat here, your floor is about to give out!"

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You don't like housing, but other people might

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give this lala a cookie!!!

I love FC content, housing and neighborhoods. I'd say most of my game time is spent in Lavender Beds :p

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Originally Posted by Zeonx

SE please make stables outside of housing, don't make anymore housing units.

Use that extra memory for something other than a house, give people some options outside of housing that get left out give them something to look forward to.

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So because you, personally, among the thousands upon thousands of people playing this game, do not like housing, you want them to stop working on it?

What?

How about free player apartments with a communal stable instead? One room instanced housing and stable access for everyone. Good for people who want housing when none is available, and for people who want stables but don't care about hosuing. Doubt it'll happen, but Aion did it and it seemed to work pretty well.

I love personal housing. Would be nice if they made it more available for everyone.

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Is there really anything special in this game that hasn't come from 1.0? Everything in this game just feels inconsequential and fleeting.

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Housing was not in 1.0

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So because you, personally, among the thousands upon thousands of people playing this game, do not like housing, you want them to stop working on it?

What?

How about free player apartments with a communal stable instead? One room instanced housing and stable access for everyone. Good for people who want housing when none is available, and for people who want stables but don't care about hosuing. Doubt it'll happen, but Aion did it and it seemed to work pretty well.

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It really just sounds like the OP wants the benefits of housing (whether it be FC/personal) without having to own a house or be a FC member. I suggest they make some friends for 3.1 so they can leech their chocobo stables / gardens.

What else is there to spend gil on.

2 weeks ago my wife took almost all her gil and put it into a retainer. All about 100k

She keeps going between 50-300k while leveling DOH and DOL. but onces she hits 60 on everything it's just pure gil.

Then what do you spend gil on, when you have 10M +???

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It really just sounds like the OP wants the benefits of housing (whether it be FC/personal) without having to own a house or be a FC member.

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Or OP is trying to convince other people to not buy a house, to improve the odds that he or she will be able to get one when new plots become available ...

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and I'm like

http://i.imgur.com/XdrSaTL.jpg

For me getting a house was a personal goal. I saved up my gil and worked for it to be able to buy a small house. I was so excited when a plot became available. For me, having a house is about having a space for me. A small piece of privacy in the game. Sometimes I chill with my fc at the fc house and sometimes I like to spend time at my house crafting or making changes to the house. There's nothing I can do at my house that I couldn't do at the fc house or in towns but it's just nice to have a place that's mine.

Kinda have to agree with this, essentially they're pointless yes, but that's not why I'm agreeing, I agree it's pointless because with SEs current mindset toward housing. This whole purge idea solves absolutely nothing and is basically sweeping something broken under the rug, until they implement a system where everyone can have a house, each time the plots get taken we will have to wait for them to kill all the owned plots by players who left. Not a good way to handle the system at all.

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I mean the leader could lock all that from you and I don't think its right, rather have my own freedom to do that for myself than others giving me permission.

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Then you need either a personal house or to find a better Free Company than the ones you've been in because there's absolutely no reason to lock people out of using the stables. The stables in my FC are open to anyone the day they join. The only things we restrict are the airship ventures, FC chest, and FC actions. The rest of the house is open to every member to use. We went to a lot of cost and trouble to furnish the house (maximum number of crafting stations, etc); actually we just recently redecorated because some people were bored with the way it looked and wanted to make some changes. It was something fun that we all got together to do; people picked furnishings they thought they'd like and I crafted the items and/or funded the project where needed.

I guess I just don't understand the tone of your post. "I don't like this so please don't add any more of it." Do you have any idea how many people are already sitting on a bunch of gil and waiting for when the idle/inactive housing is freed up? I have both an FC house and a personal house, and I've thoroughly enjoyed making my mark on both little corners of Eorzea. :3

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Then what do you spend gil on, when you have 10M +???

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Search me. I'm still trying to figure it out. In the meantime, I dumped it all into a swimming pool.

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