I'm really tired of being ignored by SE on these forums. And them saying nothing it all.
It's really frustrating to spend this much money on the game and after countless posts about many different subjects, All they are bothered about is glamours and correct spelling.
Peoples games are in tatters. And your still taking money of everyone yet YOU DO NOT LISTEN SQUARE ENIX!
Give us something, We bought HW, We play for the game monthly. I would atleast like to have some feedback from the Developers, instead of being told nothing.
Lack of replies is absolutely disgusting. I've paid like £80 since the release of HW and they can't answer a post.
It's a joke!!
I'm tired of being ignored.
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10-07-2015, 08:18 PMLongsunZhaoI'm tired of being ignored.
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10-07-2015, 10:44 PMDererk
Its not so simple as a lot of people think. But yes I'm tired of seeing the reps commenting on spelling and glamour stuff. But the problem is they can't just make a response because if they do they have to keep to what they've said. So they can't say stuff like for example.
We will get rid of all rmt activities in x amount of days. They can't say stuff like this cause if they fail to do it in this time frame its a back lash on them. The reps have to go threw the devs before they could comment on big stuff like content changes requests before they could post. Not to mention they have to translate everything.
The JP forums probly gets more responses because they don't have to translate.
Oh and because there's too many threads in the English forums. Like this one for instance rant threads. -
10-08-2015, 01:21 AMJeniLinsky
We speak the wrong language for the devs to care much about what we have to say.
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10-08-2015, 02:20 AMMartin_Arcainess
Pretty much what Derek, said Devs would respond to all our post they would lose their nerves and say something they regret because let's face it most of the feedback isn't the nicest to read.
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10-08-2015, 02:21 AMIromi
You aren't the only one OP. They used to be so transparent and such on here..now they say stuff only at press events and now it seems like they don't even translate the Live Letters on the forums! I dunno anymore...
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10-08-2015, 02:22 AMMartin_ArcainessWe've got the Duty commenced for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iromi
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10-08-2015, 02:25 AMSilverbane
1) FFXIV has literally millions of players, and only a few community reps. It's impossible for them to respond to most posts. That doesn't mean they don't listen. The best listeners are the people who are not talking all the time.
2) The more important an issue actually is, the less likely you are to see a post on it from a community rep. There's many reasons for this: miscommunication is worse than no communication, spoilers are bad, giving the forums advance information (most players do not read them) is not fair, and so on.
3) Many issues cannot be responded to because even the devs don't have an answer yet. A feature may be in development but may not work out. A problem may be acknowledged but a solution may not be confirmed yet.
... and so on.
Besides, how much of their time do you think your £80 is worth? Do you think the community reps can just dash off a short note about a real issue in 10 minutes? No, responses to real issues have to be written, vetted, approved by the devs in Japan, and so on. I'll bet all but the most trivial community rep responses take 4 or more person-hours to get written, approved, and posted. Do the math using the fully-burdened cost of an employee, and you'll find that your £80 isn't enough to pay for even half a response.
And that's ignoring that you already got what you paid that £80 for: a game. Check your receipt, I'm pretty sure that forum responses to your particular complaints were not included at that price. -
10-08-2015, 03:38 AMLongsunZhao
Not talking about my complaints, I'm talking about every single DOTL/DOTH post thats been ignored since we purchased Heavensward.
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10-08-2015, 03:39 AMLongsunZhao
And also. If they don't have an answer. TELL US!!! How do we know what there doing if they feed absolutely nothing back. Why can't they post. We are working on changes, We dont know what but we will keep you informed. Thats it, Job done. Not all this point blank ignoring the people who pay for this game.
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10-08-2015, 03:52 AMcgbspender
I suspect there is such a thing as a "thread-o-meter". The more replies, the more likely a request will be accepted and implemented. To get higher in the thread-o-meter, create a thread with a high potential of trolling / baiting. For instance (I'm not inventing them - almost) :
" We PLD 'r so gimped, need MORE MiTiGaTiNg !!"
" The 3407 reasons WHM should be buffed !!"
" I warn you SE, I'm gonna quit !"
" I'm a healer ilvl 248, and I still don't get it, should I DPS or NOT ?"
" AST cards are awesome ! ...but need a revamp !"
" SE, I hate crafting now " (and when you look at the character, all crafts at 60, wtf ? took you so long to figure out ?)
If you can create such threads with such level of trollness, and get 20 pages of replies, I'm certain you'll get every buff or revamp you need. All it takes is creativity (the above mentionned can be a great source of inspiration)
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10-08-2015, 04:08 AMSilverbaneFirst, in general, "not responded to" is not the same as ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
And you are wrong anyway, almost to the point of dishonesty. Or are you just conveniently forgetting the major change they put in place for Favors in response to people's complaints about them? And the change they made to crafter's red scrip turn-ins to give other crafting classes parity with Culinarian ?
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10-08-2015, 04:16 AMSolluxCan't tell if troll or serious..... Regardless, we haven't been ignored. For Crafters and Gatherers alike, there were many complaints on the difficulty of capping Red Scrips and the sheer amount of time/gil needed and the Devs responded with an increase of Red Scrips per turn-in. There was also a HUGE amount of complaints regarding Favors and the time taken to complete them, and the Devs responded by cutting the time to 1/3 of what it used to be and tripling the drop rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
There's nothing wrong with voicing your concerns, but unless it's affecting the vast majority of the community it isn't likely to be fixed ASAP, or even considered an issue in some cases. In cases where it IS an issue with the community it may not even be feasible to make a change outside of a major patch, or they may be a change incoming that they just can't say anything about yet. -
10-08-2015, 05:18 AMDererkQuote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
Bleeeeh this is about that I hate crafting and gathering I would only level crafting so I can repair my gear.
I still stand behind on my original post on why they can't just respond to everything. -
10-08-2015, 05:35 AMAlahra
They don't tend to respond unless they have a concrete idea of what they're going to do, especially on major changes. They have in fact addressed some concerns, as has been mentioned (with regard to Scrips and Favors).
Given that, at present, the issues that keep coming up are fairly big, there's probably not a lot that they can say. I do wish they'd give us some idea of where things are headed and if we can anticipate any adjustments, but if they don't have anything to say yet, they don't have anything to say. -
10-08-2015, 06:02 AMLongsunZhao
Well things like A Realm Reborn Primals. Totally useless now everyone synches the battles and the items don't drop.
The gates on everything worth doing. Waiting for one day a week to make a few items and thats my crafting done.
Loads of problems, loads of very positive posts about problems that do exist. And they just don't seem at all bothered. Absolutely nothing to do with my personal posts, I just wished they'd answer someone, With an explaination to why the game has gone so painfully boring and brickwalled behind gates.
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10-08-2015, 06:06 AMMartin_Arcainesslol dude, that's your own personal problem not the devs, you yourself can sort this out.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
For the Unsyced battles, start a PF, state that it won't be synced. Problem 1 Solved!
As for the game going painfully boring brick wall, yet again it's down to you not the devs. What do you want them to do? sit down in a 1 - 1 room with you and ask how you want the game to be made and screw the rest of 3,999,999 players out there? -
10-08-2015, 06:14 AMLongsunZhao
As I have repeated about 4 times thoughout this post. I just want one post to be answered. Not mine. Just any. Give us abit of a clue where all this is going. We've had nothing for absolute months.
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10-08-2015, 06:51 AMMartin_Arcainess
The Dev tracker is your friend.
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10-08-2015, 07:01 AMSolluxhttp://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...81#post3180281Quote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
7/24
Page 1, Zhexos addresses certain Leves not indicating the need for a Master book to complete
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...54#post3189354
7/27
Zhexos addresses the inability to quicksynth old lvl 50 recipes
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...57#post3192857
7/28
Page 4, Zhexos addresses concerns regarding Red Scrips and the low amount given per turn-in
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Update-Thread
8/21
Page 1 Addresses the change to Favors
Page 2 Addresses Specialist Actions being lackluster, the possibility of Specialist Only Recipes, as well as New Crafting Recipes coming in 3.1
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...30#post3348830
9/30
Page 5, Zhexos addresses the need for a Search function for Crafting and Gathering items within Recipes
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...00#post3350500
10/1
Zhexos addresses the inability to use certain Gathering skills on a Mount such as Truth of the Mountains/Forest
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10-08-2015, 07:38 AMLongsunZhao
It's not just me is, have you seen all the people posting with problems they dislike. The Econamy being none existant. The caps on mats, The really gamebreaking stuff has been nothing but blanked.
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10-08-2015, 08:10 AMPotatoWafflezThose are all problems you don't fix over night and can't rush because you can and will screw people over if you do. There is also no reason to communicate their plans before patch 3.1 which is the soonest I and probably a lot of people expect changes or an update on the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
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10-08-2015, 08:21 AMLongsunZhao
Oh we'll get news after five months of nothing. I hope it doesn't hurt them
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10-08-2015, 08:21 AMAomine1992
They arnt ignoring you but there is only so much a few ppl can do for a million ppl and let's face it most of the suggestions or changes I see are so unrealistic that they would be foolish to respond too or just full of ppl bickering back and forth...those don't generate responses.
From my experience with MMOs devs respond ppl flame them saying they didn't do this or this is untrue blah blah blah so I think they are doing fine they fixed astro and took in account ideas...PLD will never be fixed for those ppl saying it needs it cause simply there are PLDs still doing everything including savage....
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10-08-2015, 08:35 AMLongsunZhao
Unrealistic to ask for a working econamy so I can actually make use of the crafting roles I've been leveling for the past 8 months. At the end of the day, I never told them to add certain elements in HW which have completely ruined others. No one farms a Primal properly anymore because of the Synch for the vanity weapons. Not like I can even buy them as my money is going on making sure I meet there pathetic gates like Red Scripts. It's like I can't even spend gil before because if I do. I'm missing a weeks worth of items I can't ever get back.
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10-08-2015, 08:51 AMSollux1. It's impossible to please everyone all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by LongsunZhao
2. The Economy is not nonexistent, Combat classes just have very little to gain from most Crafted items and that's removed a decent chunk of gil from the market. This is a big issue that affects a large portion of the community but it's something that simply cannot be solved in a hotfix. Things should hopefully change in 3.1.
3. Combat classes have dealt with caps on their progression since the very beginning, it's far from a new concept, it just isn't something we're used to for Crafting/Gathering. The only players affected by the Token caps at the moment are those who want to craft a ton of items in a week, and in my experience if they have the time/gil to craft more than 3 2-Stars a week they will find a way to do so; such as buying Tokens from others, or doing favors for them in exchange for the use of their Tokens, or outright buying the mats.
None of this is "gamebreaking", and even if they were they're still issues that cannot be solved with a simple hotfix. If major changes are made, they will (Most likely) be made in 3.1. It feels like you're trying very hard to troll, and if you aren't trolling and genuinely feel this way then I'm sorry for you. Either way, I'm tired of repeating myself. -
10-08-2015, 11:38 AMLongsunZhao
Thats half the problem. The only thing I craft on a more common bases that came from Heavensward is anything below level 55. I don't attempt to make any of it because of the significant losses, when I can guarentee getting the armors though the tokens themselves. I try and get by on selling the Four Star foods such as Bacon Bread and Flint Caviar.
And none of this still alters the fact, that although things are difficult in game, were just expected to get on with it. I've never seen it so empty. Things are barely selling. So I have to spend most of my week gathering. I can't even cap Esoterics as I spend too much time on these red scripts. If I dont spend the time, I have to spend gil. It's an arkward system that is boring. It's ruining crafts. And were still in the absolute dark about everything going on.
People might think I'm trolling and fair enough. But I'm really worried that an Expansion I've paid for is about to erase one of the main reasons I play this game. The 5 months without any concrete answers doesn't exactly fill me with much confidence. I'm sorry if this offends people. But It's how I feel. -
10-08-2015, 02:01 PMAstral145
I knew HW would be a re-skinned 2.0. But like any fare driven individual I thought I would give FFXIV HW a chance to see if the devs and content creator team would learn some lessons of what to do and not to do from 2.0. Sadly they haven't and all FFXIV is nothing but grind grind grind with too many weekly caps. I have played many rpgs, sub mmos and full blown mmos and by far FFXIV is one of the saddest mmo's I have encountered. Sure FFXIV has its moments but at its core its a snooze fest. This game out grows content way to fast. Even worse gear gets thrown away faster than we can actually fully gear 2 jobs with esos. I know that mmos and rpg's are a grind fest but at least they throw in more horizontal progression and allow you to enjoy the gear you grind for a little a while. Many other mmos also add in special traits that you can bind to gear for that extra push or something different in the job you are in.
Speaking of jobs they basically threw brd under the bus then put it back together by a No.Ob dev that honestly couldn't have cared less about BRD.
BLM was made more complicated for no reason at all. Granted the nukes are awesome to look at but its not fun to play anymore. If you lose enochium your screwed and having to worry about something as retarded as timers is just plain dumb which forces you to watch a stupid icon on a screen instead of enjoying the content you are running... bad form in any mmo. I know mnk has a timer but every 3rd move resets it and with all the new skills it has makes it quite easy to keep greace up and maintain it. But with BLM you have to worry about astral fire timer and enochium timer + how much time you have left to reset enochium with Bliz 3 + 4... its stupid and not needed. BLM already had to worry about mechanics and everything else like cast times to keep it's rotations smooth why couldn't they just left it at that?
DRG has it pretty good except for that stupid RNG procs... why do dis? Why not just make a 4th positional hit in each rotation? Sometimes I wonder if the devs were drunk that day and thought it would be a good idea to throw in more crappy rng in the game.
Speaking of rng mch is heavily depended on rng.... nothing like popping the same skill over and over till ogcd's and force proc skills come off cd. But other than that MCH is pretty good but wish it was more of a gunslinger job that another stupid hybrid wannabe support dps job.
DRK is damn good for a tank but honestly it would have been a better as a dps class.
War is just way to OP for its own good nothing like hitting a 5k to 9k crit.
PLD is ummm kinda sitting in the back waiting for some love by the devs....
AST had a bad start but its now standing toe to toe with all the other healer jobs out there.
SMN is well I don't know what the heck it is... The pets now just kind pew pew and nothing much else. No new skills for pets or new pets for smn. IT would have been nice to at least get a few glamour primal skins but no the devs just shrugged it off and just made SMN OP in the AOE department. Basically the devs said meh "here's a few new skills and a few QoL changes to bane now go play and leave us alone"...o.O?
The only jobs that really kept its core game play from 2.0 was mnk (QoL changes for Greece), drg, pld, war (with a huge buff), smn (huge aoe buff), nin and all healers... all the other jobs got a shiny new turd to play with....
So basically after weighing all the stuff FFXIV has to offer is basically nothing but big shiny alligan turds that get thrown at us by big alligan monkeys.
There are 3 things that keep me hooked on a game... Horzontal Progression meaning making gear last longer with really enhance traits to farm for to bind to gear, battle classes... I go by how fun they are to play and how deep the battle ground is... meaning you have to know elemental weaknesses for every mob and boss, allowing you to manipulated mechanics and turning the tides against the bosses you face by using there own mechanics to destroy them... ect. The last thing I look at is how rich the content is. Horizontal Progression falls in line with this as well and of course if can you make decisions that could alter the story somewhat.
FFXIV has some of this but overall its nothing more than a theme park mmo that honestly has no direction at all. The battle classes are a snooze and the battles we are in are boring... its the same ol bs mechanics with no real depth or strategy.
DPS checks are not real mechanics and 1 shot mechanics are not real mechanics.... What makes fights more interesting is learning what the bosses weaknesses are then planning an attack to destroy them. Elemental weakness shine on things like this and adds to the depth of what a mmo should be. BLM could have a lot more than what is now... seriously throwing fire bombs at ifrit is kinda dumb and made zero sense at all. I understand this is fantasy but a blend of reality and fantasy can make things a little more interesting.
Well sorry for the rant but over all FFXIV HW ranks about 3 out of 10 as far as creativity, battle classes, depth of battle play and strategy is concerned. Graphics are 8 out of 10 but that is all it really has going for it. Story is at best a 5 out of 10. It was too predictable and it had no real originality it was basically a rip off of other games and stories out there.
Anyways best of luck to you all out there.... I'll be dropping sub this month because I refuse to pay SE another dime till they get there business straight. They do not offer us a real Pay to Play mmo . -
10-08-2015, 03:07 PMKabooa
All the posts, positive and negative, on the forum don't even account for 1% of the active subscriptions.
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10-08-2015, 04:12 PMSolluxYou DO know this is the Crafting forum, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Astral145
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10-08-2015, 04:45 PMSilverbaneHe may be just reading the "New" posts list, saw the title, and thought his post was appropriate for the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sollux
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10-08-2015, 09:08 PMSida
Thing is, if they started to answer with "yes, we read that" to every little woe, people would very soon start blaming them for cookie cutter answers. Same for saying "working for it" for everything. Just can't please everyone.
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10-08-2015, 09:17 PMDererkQuote:
Originally Posted by Sollux
LoL OP opens that door when they didn't clarify this was about crafting.
I'll take it a step further. SE pretty much how you do your raids sucks make them longer more rewarding and please no more 4 different short instances.