So Why Don't Paladins Have...

Spinning Shield?

You know, the AoE Stun ability that the Moogle Paladin has in Thornmarch? The one that would give us awesome utility and generally be Really Cool (TM)?

Just a passing thought. Would be an excellent addition to the PLD kit, and we have precedent for it (that, and Spirits Without, but that's a different can of worms).

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Originally Posted by Jpec07

Spinning Shield?

You know, the AoE Stun ability that the Moogle Paladin has in Thornmarch? The one that would give us awesome utility and generally be Really Cool (TM)?

Just a passing thought. Would be an excellent addition to the PLD kit, and we have precedent for it (that, and Spirits Without, but that's a different can of worms).

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Considering our stun has no cooldown and is the longest stun duration in the game, giving us an AoE stun on top of that would be crazy. I'd also be yelling at WHMs since they'd push stun immunity on all targets before I even get a chance to use it. >.>

Doesn't need to stun, could paci for maybe 1s (or perform some other function...), and act as an alternative to Swipe.

Properly balanced, and it could give PLDs a choice of AoEing or dealing single target damage when blocking.


Just throwing that idea out there.

There's also 2 different boss-type fates in Churning Mist where the enemy is a sword and board Mog who use Spinning Mogshield.

It's added salt in the wound if you're leveling PLD in that zone.

If theory PLD had Spinning Shield (Radius AoE attack + stun), I don't see the issue with that stun part. Like said, it's diminishing returns so there's not much exploit of that, plus fits in with the shock trooper CC focus that GCD provided Stun that Shield Bash provides.

Really the issue I think would be more that it shouldn't be a GCD ability with TP cost, since that is diving into WAR's realm of Bloodbath + OP spam on large groups. If PLD had another AoE, I think it'd either have to be magical or be oGCD physical + recast like Circle of Scorn.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Considering our stun has no cooldown and is the longest stun duration in the game, giving us an AoE stun on top of that would be crazy. I'd also be yelling at WHMs since they'd push stun immunity on all targets before I even get a chance to use it. >.>

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Paladin stun may have the longest duration, but in my opinion it is the least reliable to pull off since its on GCD. You either have to be lucky with the timing, or sitting on your cool downs doing nothing in preparation to using it. I would prefer them to take it off the GCD even if it means lowering the duration.

WAR and DRK stuns on the other-hand are oGCD...

Becuase that would do absolutely nothing to eliminate the current issues facing the PLD kit?

I'd like it, I'd also like spirits without and Enspirit(both used by gld in halatali hm)

Same reason monks dont have hundred fists. Yes there is a mob in the game that uses it, but just because a mob uses something doesnt mean the player should get it. And vise-versa, there are plenty of skills we get that mobs don't.

I've been saying it since day 1: Give PLD a gun.

Shield Bash cost us 150 TP to use, imagine a AOE Stunning move, that would just suck up our TP in 2-3 moves T_T

to give it a stun and damage the stun duration would have to be 1 sec and the damage potency low.

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Originally Posted by MrTherm

Same reason monks dont have hundred fists. Yes there is a mob in the game that uses it, but just because a mob uses something doesnt mean the player should get it. And vise-versa, there are plenty of skills we get that mobs don't.

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More like 2-3....;.; Freaked me out being a tank from FF11 first time I saw it while leveling up.

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Originally Posted by Jpec07

Spinning Shield?

You know, the AoE Stun ability that the Moogle Paladin has in Thornmarch? The one that would give us awesome utility and generally be Really Cool (TM)?

Just a passing thought. Would be an excellent addition to the PLD kit, and we have precedent for it (that, and Spirits Without, but that's a different can of worms).

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My Question Is Why Is WAR's Stun NOT An AoE?

Cause if any tank got that skill it would be WAR not silly PLD.

maybe not have it stun cause class balance issue. However having a skill like this generate enmity as an AoE may be a plus.

I'd punch a baby square in the face for an AOE stun as a tank. Shelton -> Mogshield? RIP all other tanks.

Also, balance aside, this doesn't solve PLD's Savage woes.

i think you mean steel cyclone shield bash

Personally would rather have Shield Swipe be given a AOE affect rather than having shield bash (or in this case "spinning shield") get a AOE setup. Haha I think an GCD aoe stun especially with the long effect/repeatabilty of pali would be a bit to much of a boon, where as shield swipe with it being dependent on the blocking trait unique to paladins would be a better fit balance wise. Haha will say the skill would need to tweaked quite the bit, but a guy can dream haha.

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Originally Posted by Lan_Mantear

Paladin stun may have the longest duration, but in my opinion it is the least reliable to pull off since its on GCD. You either have to be lucky with the timing, or sitting on your cool downs doing nothing in preparation to using it. I would prefer them to take it off the GCD even if it means lowering the duration.

WAR and DRK stuns on the other-hand are oGCD...

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Fully agree, would trade longer cool down for off GCD anyday.

if only skill speed can reduce PLD gcd to 2 secs or less...