The bot mining on my server is getting ridiculous as of late. I've already submitted 2 reports this morning after only 30 minutes of mining. One of the botters actually noticed I was there after 5 minutes and teleported away.
How to notice an obvious botter:
1.They run in straight lines
2.They don't stop unless to change direction or if stuck
3.When stuck they stop moving for a few seconds and eventually jump then keep moving
4.Move in patterns.
They are so stupidly easy to spot yet nothing can really be done about it except report them. By the time a report is dealt with the marketboard more than likely has already been hit by them and prices plumit. Yay for some people I guess but bad for those of us who leveled these skills for the purpose of money making.
I'm not going to spend my time sitting at the computer headdesking through 3 hours of mining when other people are doing it while they sleep,eat,work or whatever. I don't know what the fix is, I don't care how it gets fixed. I will say that if "nothing" is done then you guys just encourage everyone who isn't doing it to do it and BELIEVE me, I have been considering it. Especially when you find out after a few days or weeks they are still logging in.
Why can't SE just pick some dedicated members of the community from servers to do something about it. Even if its the ability to forcelog out a botter and report their actions directly to a GM or something. Like I said, I don't claim to know the solution. Mine isn't the best, their may not be a best solution but reporting is "not" working.
Mining botters... (the situation is bleak)
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10-02-2015, 11:50 PMMycow8meMining botters... (the situation is bleak)
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10-02-2015, 11:55 PMMycow8me
And I'm mining next to a botter on cactuar... Again...
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10-02-2015, 11:58 PMWinterLuna
Threads like these are created every other day. It's annoying but SE are aware of the problem. There's nothing else you can do except report them. Maybe SE could do more but making this thread won't make them any more aware of the issues unfortunately.
I understand though, don't get me wrong. I used to see them at The Burning Wall spamming Golden Fleeces and the same ones would be there every day. -
10-03-2015, 12:01 AMServerCollaps
there are also many bots which mine timed things like darksteel ore etc
its rediculous to see douzens of 99 stacks darksteel nuggets at the marketboard from the same person...lol -
10-03-2015, 12:03 AMAlphaFox
Sadly all you can do is report. I reported one for weeks who only botted during the day (and played at night). Almost a month later he was finally gone, now if he was banned or just moved servers I am not sure.
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10-03-2015, 12:11 AMAlphaFox
Doesn't really help that ban in waves, after the items and such have already been sold and (most likely) sent to a dormant account that doesn't bot or advertise.
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10-03-2015, 12:25 AMBreathlessTaoIf only they fixed the Support Desk at least, because reporting all the bots and spammers and everything - it's almost like I spend more time suffering with that than actually enjoying the game itself........... but this too has been an issue for so godsdamned long. And still the Support Desk is as clunky and cumbersome as something like that can probably ever be.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
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10-03-2015, 12:29 AMAdireWhen there was a temporary lapse in complaints about the DRK aura, Yoshida pretty much figured the problem must have solved itself. If people stop complaining about bots, who is to say SE won't consider that problem solved too?Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
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10-03-2015, 12:35 AMKosmos992kThey ban in waves because they are investigating, and ban accounts related to theinvestigation when done, not as they go. This is so they can trace the botting accounts, the bankers, the advertisers and the trading accounts that put stuff on the MB. The bots can't be instabanned because each needs to be investigated to be sure before action is taken. Plus leaving the farm bots in fact allows them to trace the entire network the bot is part off. The ban waves are basically the 'network' of related RMT acvounts being removed at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaFox
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10-03-2015, 12:36 AMWinterLunaBut there's not a lapse in reports? That's what I'm saying. I'm not arguing against the OP, all I'm saying is there's plenty of threads about bots already and the Devs can see them. They're aware of the issue.Quote:
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Edit: and I agree there's a problem and SE can do more about the way we report and banning them. I'm literally just saying the forums are always filled with bot posts and there's a huge thread about the RMT. -
10-03-2015, 12:41 AMAdireReports aren't available to the public eye for everyone to view. The forums are.Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterLuna
And I know. You stated such in one of your previous posts. We all hate bots, I'm sure. But a cease in complaints cannot lead to anything good, and the ongoing complaints really aren't doing anything bad. If anything, complaints about it encourages SE to do more.
It's not about making SE "aware". It's about letting them know the community's frustration with it, reminding them of the intensity of it, and putting the information that there are bots in the game, and lots of them, into the public eye. Because if that was not happening, there would be much less pressure for SE to do their best to control the problem. -
10-03-2015, 12:50 AMWinterLuna
Well I hope SE sort it then because these threads are getting slightly tedious. And as a Dev said themselves, it's just pushing other threads down every time a new one is made. At the same time, I hope SE sort the issue more productively, although it's not as easy as people make it out to be.
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10-03-2015, 12:54 AMxXRaineXx
There are 64 servers in total (might have miscounted, correct me if I'm wrong) and just as a statement there are about 5m registered accounts. Let's take this into a theoretical calculation and say about 10% of the accounts are bots/gil spammers. That's 500,000 accounts, roaming endlessly throughout 64 servers.
To observe and report all 64 servers and find the odd cases will take a tremendous amount of time and resources. Even if there is a central data server that monitors all the data that goes on in every server, that still means there will be billions of coded data passing every minute.
Also, not everyone who looks like a bot is a bot. For example, I myself went out and farmed wool way back sometime during 2.0 from Karakuls. I would spend on average 4 hours a day about 2-3 times a week just endlessly farming. Does that make me a bot? No.
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10-03-2015, 01:01 AMMycow8me
I wouldn't doubt they are using stolen accounts. With the whole clickandbuy crap from years ago on ffxiv and other third party hosting of information... There's no way for SE to monitor all secure information. However that doesn't change the fact that stolen accounts are limited and usually require "reactivation" due to inactivity.
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10-03-2015, 01:05 AMWinterLunaGenuine question - wouldn't some bots also be associated with gil sellers? If so, they make more than enough money to buy more accounts, and the problem would lie with players buying gil and not with SE themselves.Quote:
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10-03-2015, 01:25 AMMycow8me
Even a RMT company isn't going to rush to spend more money on an account. Not every mining bot is the super RMT company that doesn't mind hashing out the money for another account.
Actually you know what, I'm done with you, feel like commenting to you trivial anyway. Continue being a sheeple.
In other news:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-%28Oct.-2%29
Just noticed this, explains a wave of new bots. Back to reporting I guess, system for reporting still needs work. Unhappy with current reporting system but atleast that post calmed me down a bit. The struggle to not bot is REAL but faith somewhat restored. -
10-03-2015, 01:57 AMWinterLuna
Then don't be rude to me, delete my comment and edit yours. Good luck.