Are there certain items that are more likely to produce certain Materia than others. I'm trying to farm Savage Aim/Might for Relic Weapon Animus specifically.
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09-28-2015, 12:04 PMEvanderAdventBest items for Materia
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09-28-2015, 12:23 PMRuri
It's all totally random but I seemed to get more from items with STR or DEX or Crit or Det on them.
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09-29-2015, 04:08 AMMeridaQHey OP, it's not totally random, what Ruri said next is more accurate. Gear that has crit/det on them have a chance to drop savage aim/might materia along with whatever the other stats are. Example an armor with str/vit/crit can drop str/vit/crit and elemental materia. All DoW/DoM can drop elemental materia. Craft/gather gear drops their respective materia no elemental. Hope that helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruri
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09-29-2015, 04:10 AMIagainsti
DoW electrum accessories
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09-29-2015, 10:48 AMTechnoTechieactually it doesn't matter if the DoW item has crit/skillspeed/accuracy/det, it will still drop those materia; DoM also can drop crit/spellspeed/accuracy/det regardless of if it has those stats or not. The stats on the item are irrelevant to the materia. The only thing that matters is the classes that can equip it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeridaQ
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10-02-2015, 02:43 AMMeridaQOkay there are a few things wrong here. First if you have dexterity gear you will not get Str or parry materia. Second to make things more clear accessories can equip to any class and if you are wanting specific materia use gear with relative stats. Healing gear - spell speed, piety, mind etc. caster - crit, det, spells-, int. Tank - skills-, str, parry, crit, det, vit. Str dps- str, crit, det, skills-. Dex dps same but dex instead of str materia.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechnoTechie
This is not an exhaustive list but a good base (obviously acc and element materia is in the mix) -
10-02-2015, 02:56 AMaerolol
MeridaQ is wrong again.
I have gotten Battledance materias from non-tank gear, and plenty of crit/det materia from healer gear.
VIT materia can come from any kind of gear, it's NOT restricted to tank gear only.
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10-02-2015, 03:11 AMMeridaQ
My first comment was in response to "the stats on an item are irrelevant to the materia." The stats are relevant because this helps determine what possible materia can convert per item. This is related to each class but was further defined in my previous post. Again if the stats were irrelevant than a PLD wearing all crafting gear would than only be able to convert that gear into str, parry, vit, det, and crit materia. Which is not the case.
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10-02-2015, 03:20 AMMeridaQSo my statement is saying the materia dropped is based on the stats, and that my list was not exhaustive. First battle dance is a weird one I general, second if the healer gear has crit or det than it can drop crit or det and same point with vit gear for the left side has vit therefore that materia will drop too. Finally for tanks DEX affects parry therefore yes it will drop for tank gear, it will not drop off mnk or drg gear. My apologies for not being clearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by aerolol
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10-02-2015, 07:20 PMRoth_Trailfinder
Stats do affect the Materia you can get converting an item. BUT - they do not provide any sort of limiter per se.
Aetheryte Ring. This has 2 stats : CP, and Increased Spiritbond Gain.
The CP should make it a Crafting piece of gear (which is what it was equipped for), capable of converting only into Craftsmanship, Control, or CP Materia.
The Increased Spiritbond Gain trumps that, however, turning it into a piece of Combat gear, capable of turning into combat Materia instead (Str/Vit, Int, Mnd, etc., Accuracy, Spell Speed, Skill Speed, Det, etc., and all resists). This ring cannot, as far as I'm aware, turn into Crafting or Gathering Materia.
Beyond that, any combat class gear can turn into any primary stat. Any combat class gear can turn into any resistance. The primary distinction among combat class gear turning into Materia is that DoW gear cannot (or has a dramatically reduced chance to) turn into Spellspeed Materia, and DoM gear cannot (or has a dramatically reduced chance to) turn into Skillspeed Materia. -
10-03-2015, 10:45 AMRaldo
Oooh, you're so close...
The aetheryte ring cannot turn into any combat secondary stats. It's a terrible piece of gear to choose as an example, since it is an exemption to most of the rules. The aetheryte ring can just turn into all primary stats and elements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
This... isn't quite right. You will never get INT/MND/PIE materia from DoW gear, and you will never get STR/DEX from DoM gear. Additionally, if your gear is further limited, the list can get reduced even further (for example, if you're converting DEX-only job gear, then you can't get STR either which is the point that MeridaQ was trying to get across).Quote:
Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder
DEX doesn't affect tanks anymore, so it may not drop off of lv51+ tank gear (though I don't have enough data points to say that for certain), but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still in the materia-pool for tank gear from 1~50 just because DEX used to affect tanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MeridaQ
All that said, what I really came in here to say is that I do not believe that the secondary stats on a piece of gear (crit/det/etc.) PROBABLY do not increase the rate of a piece of gear turning into those secondaries. Though I obviously cannot say that for certain, I don't think anyone else can say the opposite for certain either (if you have evidence to the contrary, I would love to see it). To answer the OP specifically, you should have an equal chance of getting det and/or crit from literally any piece of DoW/M gear. -
10-03-2015, 04:59 PMTechnoTechie
I guess I should have been more specific with my post. I should have said "classes that use the stats on it," as, how someone mentioned, accessories or items that have "all classes" as an equip requirement will of course fall outside of this, except for the fact that their stats are geared toward one category (tank/dps/caster/healer/etc). Aside from the aetheryte rings (there might be other exceptions), every piece of gear falls into one of 4 categories as far as materia goes and is based upon classes that use it: DoW, DoM, crafting, and gathering.
DoW gear will turn into STR, DEX, VIT, parry, crit, acc, skillspeed, det, or an elemental materia regardless of the stats that are on it. It doesn't matter if it's a tank-specific, ranged (only mch/brd) specific, or melee dps specific piece of gear, it will turn into one of those materia.
DoM gear will turn into INT, MND, VIT, crit, acc, spellspeed, det, or an elemental materia regardless of the stats that are on it. It doesn't matter if it's healer-specific, or caster-specific gear, it will turn into one of those materia.
Crafting gear will turn into one of the three crafting materia (competence, cunning, command) (with the exception of aetheryte rings as noted probably due to the spiritbond. Those, as mentioned, only convert into STR, DEX, INT, MND, VIT, or elemental materia)
Gathering gear will turn into one of the three gathering materia (guerdon, guile, grasp)
P.S. I like how they made all the Crafting materia have names with C, and all of the Gathering materia have names with G.
I've converted over 2000 items since 2.3, and none of them have fallen outside of these patterns.